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Artificial pitch vote
ScottishZizou replied to Eaststandee's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
How can my preferences on what I would rather watch or play a football match on be a generalisation? A generalisation over my own opinion This is the core of the issue, I am not saying all grass pitches are 100% of the time better than all astroturf pitches. I am saying that close to 100% of the time I would rather watch a match on a grass pitch than an AstroTurf one. Why is that something that some fans take such an issue with? -
Artificial pitch vote
ScottishZizou replied to Eaststandee's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
My point is there is a difference, the ball does move differently and it is does look different. Whether you are playing or watching. Whether that difference is better or worse or justifiable is personal preference. I can understand why someone doesn't enjoy it as much as grass and that's a valid opinion to have. Just because they are justifiable doesn't mean someone has to enjoy them. For context, if travel and cost was no different and I had a choice between going to Dunfermline v Raith on grass or Raith v Dunfermline on astro, I'd probably opt for the one on grass pitch. Someone might choose the other way and that's fine. As I said, I think the benefits make them justifiable but to say they don't play into some people's enjoyment factor is nonsense- 244 replies
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Artificial pitch vote
ScottishZizou replied to Eaststandee's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
I think people who say that there isn't a difference between a grass pitch and artificial are being a bit daft. The way that through balls run out the pitch/through to the keeper more often, the way the ball bounces higher but more true, the way the ball is easier to control a pass fired into you as it bobbles less and then you feel more comfortable playing out from the back because of the above. There are pro's and cons and I guess it depends on how you enjoy to play or watch football. Banks of Dee always had an astroturf pitch in the North Juniors and you always felt there was a better chance of taking something off them at home. How that translates up the pyramid I don't know but it did feel a bit of a different game when they could ping it about easier on the astroturf. Broadly, I am in favour of them, there are financial reasons and if the aim of the Scottish game is to generate players for the elite level that does have carpets for pitches then having young guys playing on these with a connection to their local club is clearly a good thing. It is significantly easier to play out from the back on an astro than a poor grass pitch. Allowing youth teams to play on them and solid income streams are probably reason enough alone when business's are struggling so much financially, including football clubs. What I dislike however is the notion that is sort of baked in that to not like watching a match on astroturf, you are automatically a luddite. It can be jarring sometimes seeing the light bounce off of the plastic and there is an unnatural/sanitised feel to it. The grounds I enjoy visiting are the more old school ones and the astroturf can kill the vibe a little for some people. It creates a sort of community centre sense rather than football ground and probably removes people from the notion that they are on the terraces watching football in the same way as it has been played at that ground for decades which is one of the reasons people still go watch football. There are also people who would just prefer to watch more of a battle on a January dubby pitch where physicality and caution is what's demanded for rather than two teams aiming to play it out the back. To tell someone they shouldn't not like something when they know they don't like it is weird. -
Miovksi, Duk and Ramadani have been good signings but is that enough to justify how crap we are and how much dross we have signed. Our recruitment has been an unmitigated disaster from the players to the positions of the players. Gueye and Sokler are both absolutely dreadful, we have spent what we assume to be the guts of a million on two guys who look like championship standard players and I’m not even convinced most teams in that league would take them. Gartenman and Jensen are presiding over a defence that is a shambles (aware there are formation problems but they are still league average players), Roos is probably earning way way more than your average Scottish top flight goalie and is chucking goals in. The recruitment on the whole has been utterly shambolic given the level of investment. We have under achieved due to some poor tactical choices but the squad that’s been put together and the lack of positional diversity is bordering on professional malpractice, as previously mentioned the bulk of a million on two crap strikers and we don’t have a winger in the squad you’d be happy having on the pitch for even ten minutes, it’s beggars belief.
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I guess the frustration is that both big decisions despite being probably correct probably feel a bit unmerited, a trip that Miovski had no intention of and was a little bit removed from the actual goal (if VAR has to exist then what’s its cut off and was that clear and obvious and directly involved in the act of the goal?) and then a penalty that is by the rules a penalty but Devlin did nothing at all wrong and it’s a 80% chance of a goal, for something that nobody could do anything about. The handball rule is a mess. When you have a fanbase already frustrated then it’s going to wind some people up even further
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People need to start just giving their cash to lower leagues as the product being served up is just dross now. £6 for a junior game today with goals, red cards etc or £30 to watch a handball someone can do nothing about be seen by someone not even at the stadium then watching the referee look at a TV. We are through the looking glass
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St Johnstone v Aberdeen 24 January 7.45pm
ScottishZizou replied to starryfish's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Has anyone ever looked less like scoring a decent chance than Sokler? How can we have spent decent money on him and Gueye when we could probably have he’s down to seaside leagues and plucked someone out just as good -
St Johnstone v Aberdeen 24 January 7.45pm
ScottishZizou replied to starryfish's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
There is obviously a difference between the ball being debatably out of play after a shot or whatever vs the game being stopped at a corner -
St Johnstone v Aberdeen 24 January 7.45pm
ScottishZizou replied to starryfish's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Robson really is laughably incompetent tactically