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Dear god. It's not even worth dissecting that.

We also apparently struggled to a home draw with Slovenia

This thread still going? Well in hibs, again.

Correct. Even in Europe success is measured simply by getting past the qualifiers. Celtic will most likely finish this group with 2 points, maybe 3 and Rodgers will be hailed as a success. We should forget about catching them in the league.

Yep, it used to be a single day of reflection on the fact that young lives were lost in needless conflicts over the years, on both sides, might I add. You didn't need to wear a poppy to respect that fact. It is not and shouldn't be a celebration of all things British armed forces, it is far bigger than that.

I fucking hate Remembrance Day in this country because of articles like that.

The numbers aren't bad at all to be fair. 10m in debt wouldn't even be that bad on lender debt but it's interest free and unsecured so they are fine. The losses are reducing year on year as revenues increase. Sorry to break that to you.

If Rangers fans get all pissy when they get spoken about every night and every other c**t finds it tedious as f**k can sportsound just do us a favour?

Riordan is incredible. His last interview where he, without a hint of irony, said 'you can't help your friends or what trouble you end up in with them' (or something to that effect) was astounding. He really doesn't see it does he?

You have to be joking surely

You're Scotland's shame monkey

Lambert will most likely not get it due to having a few failures on his cv but in fairness two promotions in a row with Norwich then comfortably keeping them up in the premier league is worth noting. He inherited an absolute disaster at villa and has never recovered.

I claimed nothing of the sort but you carry on chasing whatever bone you think you're chasing. I do think people's choices are driven too much by emotion. I said I support independence but not at any cost. I don't feel the SNP made the economic argument last time round. If that makes me moronic well... you're not worth any of my time min. Night.

Absolutely. You put it far more eloquently than me.

Thank you for a genuine answer. I agree 100%

Sorry what exactly was moronic? I accept the point that the SNP have won elections so it might not be right to claim they are solely an emotional vote. However, there is definitely a Scottish demographic that vote SNP on emotion as the party of independence

I'm not trying to proclaim to be an expert I simply commented my initial thoughts on any future referendum. Not sure why it's caused such a stir

It's a good job you're not a professional yes campaigner to be honest. I am not an attention seeker nor am I claiming to be an expert on the matter of independence. But if someone raising concerns about the notion of independence you dismiss as 'moronic' then that is absolutely counter productive to the yes campaign. Chances are I will vote yes in any future referendum but there is a middle ground that needs to be convinced by an economic argument. Their concerns cannot simply be dismissed as 'moronic' based on your opinions.

So you 'dismiss' legitimate concerns. Hence proving my point. However I'm happy to be proved wrong by your detailed political and economic analysis of why independence is the right idea. Remember I'm a yes voter by heart so I'm open to be convinced so it should be easy enough for you.

f**k off with your patronising pish.

Can't see how it's lazy to reserve judgement until I'm more informed

Based on what? This isn't having a go, I doubt anyone on here really knows the cost of breaking up the union and how Scotland would really do as an independent nation. Again, hearts says independence just not at any cost. It is almost impossible to know what an independent Scotland looks like.

This thread is an example that too much of modern politics is driven by emotion. The rise of UKIP, the SNP, Donald trump and more is an emotional one. For clarity I voted yes in 2014 after much soul searching and I'm sure a second referendum would result in the same torture. I am in favour of an eventual independence but we cannot have independence at any cost. The SNP need to provide a proper plan. In retrospect the white paper did not do that. Please Nicola present a credible and supportable argument.

Traynor of course acted like a bellend as usual but the journalist is in the wrong too. He should have understood after the first couple of times of 'we won't be answering any questions on the matter, let's move on'

I heard the 'English championship is far better than Scottish football, aside from Rangers and Celtic obviously' comment. It seemed more to me like empty headed cliches from a pundit without really anything to say. If he thought about it he'd realise it's a stupid comment but he wasn't. I'd liken it to a footballer winning a cup match and doing a post match interview saying they're glad they got the 3 points