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  1. Fair points but worth noting the consultants remit wasn’t just to appoint a manager. 

    It was a recognition that the entire football strategy that cormack had a vision for in the last few years had been implemented terribly. 

    Jimmy thelin may or may not be a good manager but they need all the component parts to be functioning properly for him to be a success. The head of recruitment has been a revolving door from day 1, Steven Gunn has been a director of football in name only, the strategy in appointing a manager has changed with pretty much every appointment. 

    These are all things that need to be more joined up and that’s essentially what the consultants are helping with, the hiring of a manager being one part of that. 

     

  2. 1 hour ago, Swello said:

    Aye - it's been quite interesting/depressing to see so many zealots replying to "this is ruining the fun" type of points with "offside is offside". Once again, I'm convinced it's folk that don't actually go to games who generally hold these views. 

    There seems to be a constituency of non-attending fans who get their main pleasure from transfer chat, contrived controversy and VAR decisions - who seem to have no conception of what it's actually like to be there to witness the sort of stuff that Coventry were doing yesterday (or even what Aberdeen almost did on Saturday). These are the folk that shite talk radio, clickbait drivel and pundits arguing with each other are aimed at.

    Yeah, I think it’s interesting that the pages and pages of arguing in our Match thread from Saturday is predominantly from people who (I presume) weren’t at the game. I was there and that will certainly not be my memory of it. 

  3. 12 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

    Silva may have been less than entirely honest but I was a lot more sceptical about Rabbi matondo

    I reckon he's probably not even Jewish

    You can't trust anyone these days

    That made me laugh more than it should have. Shame on you. 

  4. 1 minute ago, VincentGuerin said:

    I think there's a circular aspect that is related to the tv coverage our own league provides.

    All your average English punter ever sees of our league is Livi v Celtic, Killie v Rangers, Hibs v Celtic, Motherwell v Rangers...

    A lot of these games are attack against defence with an inevitable outcome. And, given that nothing else is ever televised, people assume that's all there is. I've taken mates to Tynecastle who have been genuinely surprised howe professional and high-quality the whole thing is, as they tend to think it's essentially amateur stuff.

    That's basically the impression our league gives off, so there's no demand for any coverage. It starts with our clubs.

    You won’t have any argument from me there and I’ve probably made hundreds of posts on the forum to that end. Our clubs are shitebags who are happy to take the quick media win from the OF. 

  5. Just now, VincentGuerin said:

    It's not quite the same thing. Women's football happens in England and is of interest to the local population.

    Of course media attention drives interest, but to what end would there be media attention on Scottish football in England? What does the local population do with that?

    There's only so much space, and England is a more multi-sport envronment than Scotland as well. They've got the Premier League, well-supported lower league, cricket, rugby, etc to cover. It's a very hard sell to say that their audience is being served in any way by shoe-horning in coverage of something that just isn't relevant to them.

    We have our own coverage. It may be shite, but that's a different issue.

    The plus side to all this is that most of my English mates have absolutely no idea Hearts have been relegated twice in the last decade. Didn't register at all. Which is nice. Most folk reckon we're still owned by that Latvian/Russian/foreign guy.

    It is different, and I’m not suggesting Scottish football receive the same treatment. I’m merely highlighting that it’s within the BBC’s gift to give Scottish football an increased level of coverage either at a uk level or regionally, and it would have an impact if it did. 

    It’s not unreasonable to suggest that the current output is pretty risible from a national broadcaster. The regional output is a reflection of the funding from the overall bbc. As the BBC’s national coverage becomes less relevant anyway, it could reinvent itself at least in part as a champion of regional coverage - but it won’t. 

  6. 1 minute ago, kennie makevin said:

    No one is 'perpetuating' that 'opinion.' In England it is a fact, as any time spent living down there will confirm.

    I’ve lived there too and I know they don’t care. But you’re being naive if you think that isn’t at least in part influenced by media coverage. It’s played a key part in women’s football. Increased coverage means increased interest, which leads to increased investment which leads to the quality improving which drives more interest. It’s a self fulfilling cycle. 

  7. I don’t disagree with the overall sentiment here but the bbc and plenty of media outlets have shown that if they want people to give more of a f**k about something then they will do it. There’s a chicken and egg situation here with what influences what people are interested in. 

    Id suggest that the level of interest shown in womens football going back 5-10 years wouldn’t have justified the level of coverage it has received in recent times and yet (and I say this as a supporter of this effort) they have made a decision that womens football is criminally under represented beyond a niche interest and it needed addressed.

    Thats not to say that Scottish football should be front and centre but they clearly feel that its place in the uk psyche is a regional backwater and that suits them. Theres plenty of levers they could pull to increase it, whether it was an incremental increase in coverage at a uk level or more funding to regional outlets.

    But they absolutely perpetuate the ‘no one gives a f**k about Scottish football’ opinion. 

  8. 8 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

    Russell Anderson eventually carved out a career of being an excellent last ditch blocker and tackler after being caught out positionally.

    Gartenmann played a fine game yesterday epitomised by that beautiful take down and cross field pass he made to Hoilett for the third goal.

    I think his biggest problems this season have came when partnering with Jensen.

    Anderson could cope much better with the physicality. And I may have red tinted specs on but I don’t remember Anderson putting himself in trouble as much as gartenmann does. 

    Not saying that the last ditch defending is a bad thing, but you have to question if you’re doing it that frequently. I’ve definitely seen him a few times charge out towards balls he doesn’t have a hope of getting then having to make a recovery. 

    These are potentially things to be worked on though, I have no idea what interest there is from any side to make it permanent. 

  9. 23 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

    Gartenmann was excellent yesterday. He kind of epitomises this team: he seems to have his best performances against better teams and in bigger games. When he plays like that, he is the best centre-back at the club by a country mile. I do wonder if he just doesn't like playing against really physical attackers, which is always going to a big problem for him in Scotland if he does sign permanently. 

    He definitely doesn’t like the physicality of the week to week stuff. 

    He was great yesterday but my worry is that he’s excellent at the last ditch stuff. He makes good tackles, blocks, puts his body on the line. The stuff that stands out in these games. Problem is I see him making last ditch challenges etc too often against the likes of st Johnstone or hibs at home and you wonder if he’s actually put himself in that position in the first place. 

    His positioning can be pretty kamikaze at times too. 

  10. There’s a strong argument for creating a thread dedicated to these types of decisions and protocols. This isn’t even Aberdeen and Celtic fans debating it. 

    In the pantheon of VAR nonsense this season, this decision is pretty low on the Richter scale. It’s so fucking boring. 

  11. 8 minutes ago, craigkillie said:


    Celtic's subs made them much worse, and came at terrible times. The only one that improved them was taking Yang off, and that would have been true even if they hadn't bothered to bring someone on for them.

    Ultimately at the end, Roos was utterly terrible in the shoot-out and Aberdeen hit several bad penalties, while Celtic, Hart aside, were pretty much spot on with theirs.

    Other than Forrest coming on and immediately scoring, obviously. I do agree though, seeing McGregor come off was a psychological boost as at 2-1 they were in pretty much full control. 

    Conversely, I’m not totally having that Celtic just chucked it as we took advantage and started doing what we’d been doing in the first half again. The depth on the bench for us was pretty woeful tbh but we managed to remain a threat. Leven made good changes when he could. Sokler and miovski worked well together and hoilett really stepped up. 

    Cant argue on pens, Roos gave us very little chance. 

  12. 18 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:

    Massive hurdle in the way to get there, but their defence yesterday is one I'd fancy playing in a cup final. Looked so vulnerable to the cross ball, and were awfully square quite often when Aberdeen were in possession in the middle of the park.

    Hoilett's cameo looked like it might go down in Scottish fitba folklore.

    Was only half-joking when I posted on here that I expected Aberdeen to win and Hearts to get scudded. It had the feel of a Big Cup Story about it.

    It’s always a big ask to beat them both at hampden to win a cup (has it ever happened?) but both teams have vulnerabilities. 

    Celtic are almost ideologically poor at the back. They take no steps to cover for any deficiencies so at a time when their centre halves are pretty poor the opportunities are there. It’s then just a question of bravery for teams like ours. The players are there to hurt them, you just have to be brave in possession. So often that doesn’t happen. 

    I have to say I don’t particularly fancy hearts today but you never know. Much stranger things have happened. 

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