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Talk on East Football that Birighitti missing training as in talks with another club. Would be the best move for all concerned.
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10 minutes ago, CaspianChris said:
Thats the Docherty signing confirmed now.
Surprised to see he has a 2 year deal. Goodwin was talking about the signings being 1 year for this coming season
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3 hours ago, Pull My Strings said:
I'm not sure this is all entirely right, or at least it's not the whole story.
Zwick was farting about in the amateur leagues and returned there after leaving United. His time at United was very much the zenith of his time as a footballer.
Eriksson is very much being signed as back up. Clearly he's impressed enough in training to pick up a deal, which is great, but he didn't play a single league game during his loan spell. Worth remembering too that he didn't get a sniff at United for the first six months after signing with there being strong rumours that he was, in fact, mince. This pre-dates Hinchcliffe's return to the club.
I'm not sure whether Newman performed well or not for Peterhead but he did concede lots of goals and the only games in his career in which he's not lost were a 2-2 draw against East Fife with Peterhead and the 3-0 win against Stirling Uni. Granted it's a fairly small sample size but his senior career record thus far comprises 11 defeats, 1 draw and 1 win conceding a combined total of 34 goals and keeping 1 clean sheet.
Birighitti didn't make a single appearance at Swansea and was bombed out at Breda after half a season. Having watched his "highlights" reel from the A League his inability to catch the ball and bizarre positioning seem to be recurring themes throughout his career.
The narrative seems to be that Hinchcliffe is a bad coach, and certainly his termination suggests that Goodwin at least partly agrees with that, but let's not pretend that he's the sole or principal reason why these keepers performed so terribly. Most of them are just terrible keepers.
Saku, didn't play in first 6 months and was never due to play in first 6 months and that is no slight on him. He had just played a full season in Sweden had no break and was here to be backup only to Siegrist to get him settled to take over once siegrist left. Nordsjaelland have still seen him in training for near 6 months AND paid a fee
Newman, nowhere did I say he was great, I said he was a highly thought of prospect and was well regarded at Peterhead and did well. Sometimes the amount of goals you let in doesn't mean your shit, as the team in front of you is 't very good and you can't keep everything out.
Birighitti didn't play that much at Swansea or Breda that is true, I have seen his big howler in Australia, but these guys I argued with about him ,one a football journalist who wtched him very regularly said after I pointed to some video footage, that he was unrecognisable as the player that had been A league GK of the year 2 years running.
Zwick was a good prospect, as I said, he wasn't ready yet.
I didn't say he was the only reason, but that is 6 keepers over 2 stints. 4 with decent, prior to us reputations, they look like they were all second guessing themselves with no confidence. A good coach instils confidence and makes keepers trust in themselves, not 2nd guess themselves. I do not know why both stints with us have gone so badly. Goodwin obviously sees things are not right in that department.
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52 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said:
If others are as daft as me, they'll keep clicking on to the 'Premiership Chatter' in error, and enthusiasm drains when they realise where we are again.
Done that a few times. Kept wondering why there was no new post on the premiership one before realising
. Plus I'm trying for the good of my health to not think about the league we are in too much!
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13 hours ago, ArabianKnight said:
Hinchcliffe has left the building.
He should never have been given the chance to come back again! Now I'm not saying he was to blame for our goalkeeping issues but first time round he took
Radoslaw Czerniak a good solid keeper with a decent track record in Poland and with us.
Zwick a good young prospect, not ready to be thrown into the deep end, but a good attitude and potential.
Zromnick, Polish u21 keeper and ome.of Poland's great white hopes. Had Polish press shocked he had joined United as they expected him to join a bigger club.
Turned them into goalkeepers showing nervousness in games and second guessing themselves with one in particular looking like he'd never seen a football and goalie gloves in his life!
This season has coachedCarl Johan Erikson who had a good reputation joining us as Finnish No. 2 and current Allsvenskan goalkeeper of the year
Mark Brighitti ex Swansea, NAC Breda, 1 cap for Australia (all be it a decade ago) and two time A league keeper of the year. Joined us as current A league keeper of the year.
Jack Newman well regarded youth prospect. Who performed well for Peterhead on loan.
Turned them into goalkeepers who are 2nd guessing themselves and going against instinct, who look nervous taking to the pitch.
All these other folk can't be wrong can they when voting these keepers as best performing in their leagues, giving them national call ups, talking about them as decent keepers and it is us that see them as they truely are. I got into arguments with an Australian fan and an Australian journalist online over Birighitti. They had to reluctantly accept what I was seeing in person at games, but they were adamant that he had not shown that number of errors per game there, even accounting for standard of some players. Szromnick is current Slask Wroclow no 1. Saku left on loan to Danish top league and they have just paid a fee to sign him permanently. These guys have really only been truly pish with us under Hinchcliffe as coach. Now he did well with Motherwell, but that is 6 goalkeepers over 2 stints with the same outcome. Good riddance!!
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Looks like the Errea rumours are true. Do a search online for Dundee United Errea and one of the images it pulls up is this which links to Errea website. Doesn't link to anything United related yet, but must be in readiness for official announcement.
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On 31/05/2023 at 08:25, Pull My Strings said:
This seems like a very bad idea. There was a point when Eriksson seemed to be an even worse keeper than Birighitti (if such a thing is possible). Whether one is marginally better than the other is almost irrelevant: even to be in that conversation should be enough to see both of them leave immediately. I think they'll both go and my preference would be for all three to go.
Personally, Infelt that he tried to do far too much as it looked like he had absolutely no faith that the defenders.in front of him could clear cross ballls or indeed defend properly and leave him to be a goalkeeper. While that may have been a vicious circle, by the time he came into the starting lineup our defence was as strong as wet toilet paper and as reliable as an MOT failure, with aa massive oil leak, barely working starter motor and a siezed piston!
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9 hours ago, Pull My Strings said:
Newman certainly doesn't look ready to be second choice so if he's staying then it should be as third choice at best. Is that enough for him? I think it might be better for all concerned to let him find another club at a level more suited to his current ability and concentrate on bringing in a number 1 and experienced back-up. Ruaridh Adams can step up to third choice.
Remember we still have Saku who'll be returning from being on loan in Denmark, unless he can get another club. Still Finish no 2 and will still be highly thought of in Sweden.
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2 hours ago, ArabFC said:
I reckon Fletcher has more than enough in the tank to play well at Championship level - whether he wants to or whether we can afford to pay him is another matter. If he sticks around, it would be nice if the manager could explain to the rest of the team that they're allowed to play it into his feet rather than launching it every time.
Pawlett, Edwards, Smith, Harkes, Newman and Fotheringham are (as far as I'm aware) out of contract. None should be kept.
Mulgrew, Djoum, Birighitti and Anaku need to be persuaded to leave. Niskanen and McMann are both pretty crap but also both pretty committed and could probably do a job in the Championship so I wouldn't pay them off.
I'd bring Watt back if he wanted to come back. It's unlikely.
Behich and Levitt would be kept if they wanted to stay. It's unlikely.
McGrath and Ayina were loans. Let's presume they're not coming back.
Graham, Chalmers, Mochrie, Glass, Cudjoe and Meekison all have a year on their contract and while I don't expect any of them to be playing Premiership fitba in 24/25 I'd have them in the squad next season.
That leaves Sibbald, Freeman, MacLeod and Middleton, who I'd keep.
So out of the ones I'd keep (and it's more than most I bet) I'd have maybe half a dozen as starters. Lots of work to be done on the recruitment front.
United won't pay off Anaku, he'll be on low wages and he has a cruciate injury.
Watt was part of the "management committee" with Mullgrew, Clark & Smith. Nope.not for me, caused too much bither behind the scenes. Could get aa more effective player for less outlay. A team player rather than yet another individual.
Smith has signed a pre-contract, ifn he stories are true, can't remember who with.
Edwards already confirmed as away by Goodwin
Fletcher's wages are being covered by JF Kegs guys. Would assume partly rather than fully.
I think Birighitti will be trying to return to Australia. Not short of offers there, but will depend on his wife who is Scottish.
If Pawlett was given a pay as you play deal wouldn't object, one of the few players we had that looked like he wanted to create, drive forward and win, but can see exactly why he could be away.
Niskanen, I would love to see actually played on the left wing, not right back, not left back, actually in his normal position and used to run onto quick balls in behind a defence, but I doubt that would happen.
Graham, Freeman, McMann, Levitt as well as Niskanen all players who went backwards this year. The first 4 shadows of the players last season. If they can recover then they could be useful.
Newman, would keep as back up. Saku will be back from loan too.
Mulgrew certainly leads the never want to see again catagory, can add Watt to that, would also like a new goalkeeper coach. That's two stints he has had and both times our keepers with good reputations have gone to shit and wee have been relegated. Obviously it is not all on him but he has a "track record".
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9 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:
Jamie McGrath won't want to be playing Scottish lower league football, come on back to SMP.
He'll be heading back to Wigan, he's only on loan.
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5 minutes ago, Shadow Play said:
Now that all the league games are over it’s time to relax with some summer tunes and reflect on how the season has been.
More like this for us
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Edwards the first player we know confirmed to be leaving. Goodwin saying after a conversation with him he won't be offered a contract.
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7 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
Did United make any sort of effort to claw the Killie game back to 3-1 or 3-2? Even a 6 goal swing would be a bit less of an uphill task. The fact they seem to have chucked it on the night suggests they'll do the same on Sunday.
Once the youngsters were on, it was Roy McLeod, Miller Thomson, Kai Fotheringham, plus Middleton 4 "attack" minded players we hit the post. Although I suspect we could have played all night and not scored.
The problem with us is no-one will take a shot, they'd rether abdicate responsibility and pass to someone else continually. No idea why the team is so scared to shoot unless 3 yards from goal!
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2 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:
Do any of them have relegation wage cuts?
The guy doing the contracts offered Neilson a new contract in a manner that wasn't in keeping with the rules costing us a transfer fee, so.....
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4 hours ago, Thenorthernlight said:
What do you realistically think you’ll get for Levitt with 12 months on his contract?
Would need to be a big fee, there is a massive sell on clause for Man U.
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5 hours ago, ArabFC said:
I don't honestly believe any of these kids are good enough. Chalmers is 23 and at his level so may as well be kept about as a squad option.
The only one from those out of contact I'd keep would be McGrath, but he won't want to stay anyway.
Mulgrew has to go. I'd be releasing half the players with a year left.
Hell of a rebuild.
McGrath isn't out of contract, he is a Wigan player still, he's just on loan. To me he has been as bad a signing as anyone. Other than penalties and a goal the other week what dooes he actually bring to the team? He is just as soft in midfield as the rest of them.
A lot of players this season have their reputations shot something really rotten behined the scenes with the playing squad.
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19 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:
Should've backed Ross and punted all of the trouble makers in the dressing room. IMO.
You feeling alright? First sensible thing I've read from you on a United thread!!
Totally agree with you Mulgrew, Clark, Smith and Watt were the ringleaders and all should have been binned. But that would have meant replacing them not just vetting shot leaving us short as happened with Clark and Watt.
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36 minutes ago, Sarto Mutiny said:
Kilmarnock will score at least once. If we could score more than they do, that would be helpful.
On the other hand, I hear Airdrie is lovely at this time of year
Now you're just exaggerating to make us feel better. Airdrie has never been lovely anytime of the year!
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3 hours ago, skinny arab said:
Not only did we not bring in a keeper, we sent one out on loan. Eriksson was a bit of a bomb scare also (did save a penalty against your lot earlier in the season to get us a undeserved point) but I doubt he would have flogged as many as Birighitti. Whilst we have had our share of shit goalies over the years, I am struggling to think of one who has cost us so many goals.
Edit to add, we also had Trevor Carson on the books at the start of the season. Keep him as number 1 and we are definitely not in the position we find ourselves in.
We didn't he left United in May as soon as season finished.
https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/7325/TREVOR-CARSON-JOINS-ST-MIRREN.html
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1 hour ago, Archie McSquackle said:
I didn't realise you still had Carson at the start of the season, thought you'd let him go before then. That's absolutely stunning that you thought your other keepers were better than him.
We didn't, he signed for St. Mirren last May.
He was never going to play for us this season anyway. He was signed as we assumed Benji would be leaving, butnhe didn't. Carson didn't want to be understudy amd something happend around the Christmas night out. Carson see sporting a black eye afterwards. He left soon in loan to Morecombe amd we sing Carl Johan Erikson to be Benji's replacement. To be fair the current Finnish no. 2 and then the current Swedish GK of the year.
It is no coincidence that our "allegedly" good keepers are useless considering we have Hinchcliffe as goalie coach l. The last time he was here we were relegated. He turn Rado into a bag of nerves and took Szromnik ( sorry for the nightmares) from a keeper who was Polish under 21 keeper, one of Polan ds biggest prospects and had been on trial at Everton to someone who legged it behind the nnearest object whenever a ball came within 30ft of him. How he was ever brought back, god inly knows.
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5 hours ago, kingjoey said:
It's common practice to say that a keeper gained his team so many points that he had a huge part to play in a team winning a league. I can't remember, in my decades of watching football, of a goalkeeper singlehandedly relegating a team. If United do go down that's what's happened this season.
As bad as he is he isn't the reason we more than likely will be relegated. If that was the case that would mean the rest of the squad were competent.
The defence has been shocking, incapable of stopping crosses, Can't, cope with high balls completely oblivious to runners, can't tackle & no idea what to do in posession other than slow the play down and launch it, I'll exempt Loick Ayina as he has generally looked decent.
The midfield are almost non existent. Too often they are hiding again can't tackle nor open a defence. Our most competent midfielder is a player released from Livingston and was set to sign for League 1 Dunfermline.
You could go on. It is unbelievable that we have more international caps in the squad than I can remember, but no heart. Players would rather stop and pass backwards in a must win game than take on a left or right back. We have the worst conversion rate from corners in the league. So many players are too casual, think they are better than they show. It's an absolute shitshow from top to bottom. Too much tail wagging the dog poor unbalanced recruitment, poor tactics, poor recruitment meaning certain players start irrespective of performance, and a bunch of professionals who have proved unmaginable to 3 different managers this season, who can't do the basics and seem completely lacking in game intelligence.
Birighitti is beyond calamity, but not the sole reason..
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22 minutes ago, skinny arab said:
His sports management company still have employees within United but hopefully come the summer they’ll all be gone
Luigi Capuano is one of his. There are still quite a few others
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3 minutes ago, Moorie said:
I see Goodwin throwing players under the bud at his post match interview. From his past record doing that it hasn’t ended well. Not something you want when you have 3 games left and are fighting for your life
Perfectly happy for him to do that. That's 2 managers they have got rid of this season. About time they were publicly humiliated and called out for their shite. Perform they way they did 2nd half and against Saint Johnstone, they aren't staying up no matter what, absolute shitebags!
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