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Agree, fair play to you too for that. The atmosphere was brilliant, as a game of football it was great to watch. I obviously feel better about it than you this morning, but even the ones where we've lost I can't argue that I didn't enjoy the build up, nerves and atmosphere. Can't beat it!

I didn't remember that, so defer to you, but I do remember the comments about its launch though it may not have been the official response, but as you say it clearly has absolutely nothing to do with that and everything to do with "staunchness". What's even more amazing is the fact is the fact that Ranger's fans raised it at the AGM saying it was in bad taste, they dropped it for that reason then they bring it back knowing full well what it represents and why it sells. So they can do more. Both those pundits are ex players of and grew up supporters of that club and the blinkers are well and truly on.

Today was bloody awful. I missed the talk on the orange strips, but you would have to be concerned about the ability of someone to look after themselves if they can't see why the orange shirts were pandering to the knuckle draggers. I remember when they were released RFC said it was to honour all the Dutch players, there was a collective "aye, that'll be right" from the rest of us. I have no idea what was happening at Rugby Park as all I could get was "this game is rubbish" & " the pitch, the pitch" from Biscuits, give it a rest please. The inability from Miller to grasp why a goalie couldn't take his gloves off mid game and needed someone to tie his laces was mind-numbing. Add to that his inability to comprehend why a goalie would choose to punch, especially a foreign keeper, shows how out of touch he his with the modern game. Yes I'm old enough to remember when goalies always caught to ball, but the balls back then didn't swerve and dip the way the current ones do. Open all mics used to be decent when it started, but today was amateurish and the "professional" commentators attempts to identify players really defies belief, how anyone can mistake Laurence Shankland for Nicky Clark is beyond me. There was other things I could mention, but it just merged into a mess that tries to be light hearted and informative, but in the end does neither. Sad thing is I bet I've missed the worst while at matches. Micheal Stewart came across today as the only reasonable person on it, which I'm not sure if its a compliment or a damning indictment of the programs lack of quality.

To be fair so would I, wait till after the game so it doesn't impact performance!

Looked two fantastic challenges! Could you imagine the reaction though if those were made in today's game? Though I would love to see Scott Brown or Darian Mackinnon up against that and see how much they played the hard man on the pitch after being up against that play. The Pars red card looked a bit of a dickish rake down the achilles, Pains me to say, the last goal was a cracker. Hopefully we'll not be seeing anything like that this season.

Same for me. Using Chrome on Android 9. Usually hit back and refresh site and all OK. Happening every time I browse to P&B.

Fair play, hopefully not just yet though.

Thought we were absolutely awful 1st half. Started OK but not a patch on last week. As the half went on we became worse. Back to the usual dicking about at the back, slowing the game down and letting Partick regroup. The few times we did attack quickly it was a launched ball and the cross was shit, or the obvious choice wasn't made (McMullan). The freekicks were gash too and the least said about McMullan at the goal the better. Second half, not saying it was brilliant, bit much quicker, passes were actually made and we did play at times some decent stuff. McMullan had a couple of decent crosses, and if Appere had gambled, he would have scored from Stanton's ball. Two not perfect goals but the play leading up to them was better and players were there to take the chances. Still room for improvement but 6 from 6 with +4 goal difference can't be bad knowing you can play better. We kept going in that game, a position I wouldn't have been confident in getting points from before, so again should take that as a positive. Onwards to Dunfermline now.

May be, but he's our c**t!

Tells you here, in the Scottish FA Handbook 2019-2020. All clubs mist have registered their kit designs by 1st June. Shows us registering an all black away strip for this year. Does mean could be dark gray stripes or tangerine pin stripes as that would still be classed as black.

According to Kilmarnock it was because of searches for pyrotechnics.

Would love to see these two live up to the expectation, I'm not convinced they ever will though. Actually wouldn't be surprised if we never laid eyes on Sow again tbh. Pawlett will. We saw what he brought to the team when he signed (Morton at Tannadice for example). Unfortunately he got injured and in our Wisdom management thought it was better to play him unfit and taking injections ( could hardly walk after games) where he toiled, than leave him to get over his injury. Could be back for Thistle. Sow I think they are being very careful with, Robbie I think said the club were helping him with non football "difficulties" too. IF he can stay fit he could be handy. Should be ready by the Pars game.

Thoroughly enjoyed that today. Was very nervous seeing Stanton in the middle with Butcher, BUT he played well, as well as I've seen him play for a season and a half. Shankland will get all the plaudits and so he should he was excellent, but Louis Appere for me, was very good, 2 assists, greats runs, made a right royal nusance of himself to the ICT defense. Very good first start in the league and should give him a good platform to build one. Hopefully the first of many starts. To be fair no failures at all today, and a great 1st game of the season.

That's up on last season, at this stage, is it not? The 4500 of last season was boosted by the half season tickets if I'm not mistaken.

For anyone that's not seen them Robbie and Liam Smith's pre-match interviews

Needs a total change in attitude. Also if stories are to be believed has gambling debts and was removed from changing room as due teammates money which was causing discontent. IF true. Would also require to stop hanging around orange marches and wearing clothing displaying logo of "The Proddy Boys" while a United player to be worth keeping. IMHO

@G_Man1985 didn't realise this was such a controversial incident for a Dee??

This is repeated often,but the evidence doesn't back it up. In the league we had joint 3rd lowest goal against. The defence shored up from end January onwards. Yes we would always want improvement, but we let in 40 goals all season in league, Ross County were best with GA of 34. Amazingly 2 games at Tannadice take us away from best defence, even with first half of season panic at the back. Now I'm not saying we are great but its not as bad as is made out. Scoring goals is the big problem. Although we were the 3rd highest goal scorers we only hit 49 goals compared to County's 63. Stolen from EF which I thought was interesting Season 1 (Ray): 15 - 23 - 6 - 13 (Total 57pts) Season 2 (mainly Csaba): 17 - 19 - 9 - 16 (Total 61pts) Season 3 (mainly Neilson): 14 - 18 - 14 - 19 (Total 65pts) So, what does this tell us? in only 4 quarters out of 12 have we hit the "2pts per match" target we no longer "kick on" after Xmas, as this has been the worst quarter for us Robbie has us playing much more consistently we are definitely getting better - the trend suggests we'll get 69pts this year Not that we can read too much into this (lies, damn lies and statistics, etc) but it is interesting nonetheless.

Ours arrived at the end of last week.

On Asghar's Twitter comments, I fail to see what the problem is. He was commenting as United' s Sporting Director. It wouldn't be through United's Twitter, that would be a "United comment" (I know what I mean, probably no one else will!!!) He was very fair, waited and for me was measured. At no time did he throw anyone under a bus, criticise anyone. He stated that the players and staff were aware the performance was not acceptable. He then states a planned Q&A is being brought forward. Team captain there so that they can convey fans thoughts. He is damned if he does damned if he doesn't. Now the performance against EF was rightly criticised, and lots of angry posts and tweets allowing the EF game to feel like it lasted, as social media has managed with all games, for days. He has previously said he reads the forums, United Facebook comments and United related tweets. He gave a response, much as the lad from Motherwell does or indeed Lianne Dempster has done in the past. There have been massive complaints that those running the club don't listen & we don't know what they think. We have one telling us and there are calls its wrong. We either want comment or we don't, at the moment it looks like as a fanbase we complain legitimately but also moan for the sake of it at the moment " No one listens"/"what they listening to them for" " No one speaks to us!"/"whats he commenting for?" One complaint I do have is Neilson & Asghar talked about getting the right mindset in players. The EF game makes the squad look like they still have the attitude that these teams are beneath them and they don't have to exert 100% to win. As professionals they should have the mentality and knowledge that anything less than 100% is not good enough irrespective of the opposition.

Good question. Complete irrelevance. But they know it will get clicks. Someone associated with a rival says something about your team sets off a klaxon for those looking to be offended in all supports. It is the way of the modern football fan. Having said that, irrespective of what he said, I would like the club and players to stop giving it the "where we belong" nonsense. It doesn't sit well with me. We are where we belong, as you and others are because we were A - shit when last in top league B - not good enough to get promoted. I'm hoping B isn't applicable this season and hope to be less shit in the Premiership than last time.

Newly published story. Seems to be another interview or his comments picked up elsewhere and packaged into a story by the Scum https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4497538/ex-dundee-keeper-derek-soutar-slams-dundee-united-as-arrogant/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Ha ha!! I thought about but didn't want to confirm Derek Soutar's argument a come across arrogant that we'd do the clean sweep!

I read that. Deary me McCall & Caldwell. Must admit there are a couple of posters on there who would be complaining if we win the league, the Scottish Cup and BetFred Cup as not good enough and Neilson must go! Now he isn't immune from criticism & I question some decisions he makes as most fans do of their teams manager, but some of us lot take the biscuit.

Nope still here, although wouldn't call myself a "lover", more of know what he can do if up front not played back in midfield. Were a few below par performances last night, not just one player.