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Have a greenie, just for the Quo.

Played as much a part in their vote and thinking as Heart's situation did in theirs.

They need to get the IT guy to check their security system for blocked emails

Makes a change from the usual vain attempt at football related chat when theres no football! Are we really sure this isn't deliberate to get folk talking about SPFL as part of some media campaign? As some of these statements.really are beyond parody!

Fair play to you.

Course they do, unless your telling me that those people who become "Chairpersons" do not have any interest in following the sport they will be working in and is the most widely followed sport in the country that has over 100,000 going to games everyweek not including those that follow but don't/can't attend.

But that statement was after the vote and this resolution. That was ICT saying the were fine with the league winners and promotion after it was confirmed. This latest statement is relating to a story about their behaviour prior to that vote. The DR story also seems to corroborate Dunfermline's statement who say SG was more the "bully" and will be backed up by other clubs. Thus latest ICT sounds more like child trying to save skin while caught with their hands in the biscuit tin!

Exactly,bad enough what we say now!!!

Oh dear... Doesn't this.section confirm the DR story? They tried to out that forward, got told no because blah!, blah! blah! & then had a hissy fit.

Exactly, show me any football fan who has never said something along those lines about a rival club & I show you a liar. It doesn't mean its true, it could be a joke, it could just be rivalry type banter. Thats not to say he may feel that way but context is everything.

Scott Gardiner has now padlocked his Twitter and changed his profile picture, to one depicting a "Peoples Front of Judea" flag. I'd say that was appropriate as they were a small bunch who complained about the Romans, except for everything they did that was right & never achieved anything! Seriously though did they honestly think the other clubs involved would just sit back and take these accusations and say nothing? Aberdeen's statement if taken at face value I get. Its basically saying due to the distrust, lets have an independent investigation & that way its all done and dusted and we can the accept its findings & move on. Only problem is, as it transpires, that may be giving into "bullying" itself. Total shit show, but it is entertaining.

Reading the SPFL reply, the paragraph that stands out is this one. Now if true that the SPFL has been contacted by other clubs unhappy at this, Rangers* have shot themselves in the foot big style, they have no support and more than likely a push to be sanctioned.

Just had a look at that. Jeez, if he'd come out and said , "lads, I need to be honest, there are things I feel Neil Doncaster & Rod Mckenzie and others have got wrong, which we'd all agree on, but I was wrong. There is nothing in these allegations to support the gnashing of teeth & shouting that is going on". No one would criticise him ( other than a certain mindset) and he would gain much credit. Instead he is about to be buried under the dirt from his own hole he's digging that much.

I've seen this type of thing suggested by others elswhere, but as you've said there are holes. My take on these type of suggestions are Who looks after the hotels? If the players are having to isolate away from their families etc for however long this takes to keep them "free" from infection who runs the hotels? Who does the cleaning the cooking the maintenance etc.? Because under this idea (and others of a similar type) you would need to have all the staff isolate in the hotel too. If they weren't doing so then they would be a major fly in the ointment of isolating the players as every member of staff going home could be a source of infection that could then spread like wildfire through the hotel population. This has been seen many times before. So unless every member of staff isolates in the hotel away from their home and families, in some case possibly having to bring their family in as well as they may be sole carers, the isolation is pointless. Massive extra costs in testing, extra compensation payments to staff etc. Not just players, but all club staff required by the team. Every member of staff, from manager, coaches, club doctor, physio(s), kitman, coach driver(if employed by club) amongst others. SFA Officials. All referees and asst refs would need to do the same. As refs etc have day jobs, not all my be sitting at home, and may not be able to isolate in a hotel and employer possibly wouldn't allow them to do that nor would all of them be able to "their jobs remotely". Would they be willing to isolate away from family and home for that long? There are other issues I see straight away with these types of ideas, but most of them could be worked around, its just in all of them it is talked about is players. They are just a percentage of the people that would have to be affected in the above idea, the majority of the rest would probably tell those putting the idea to isolate away from family, be unable to leave family unattendd etc for umpteen weeks to f**k right off, for want of a phrase. I know I would in that situation.

This is exactly what they did. They had already paid out the money based on the bottom position in all leagues, except for those that could finish no lower than 6th in Premiership who got payment equal to 6th. This was done in March and reported in ALL good (and not so good) news outlets. This vote was to allow the rest of the money to be paid out. Money which is dependent on finishing position. It was also to call the Championship down which financially WAS required by many clubs. It was also to get agreement to call the Premiership if necessary NOT to call it there and then. We are into May & I find it astonishing that alleged football fans, by definition those who follow football news, and football forums where football news is discussed, STILL don't get that.

The bit in bold really irks me and says to me that none of them should be in a job! The BBC themselves reported back in March that this was the case. Anyone actually following this story knew this. It is absolutely shocking that professional journalists do not and can not do the next to no research required to know this. What the hell are they doing for their wages? From what I can see they should ALL be cleared out and competent replacements sought

Can I ask one thing from you? How do you know what the club that won was paying THIS season? As has been pointed out many times that was LAST years wage bill including almost an entire first team in January. 11 first teamers left after that date with only a couple coming in. Would like to see what was the figutes from July to March to see if that is this case for the season we are actually talking about. I'm not saying we haven't spent THIS season, especially with all the new coaches etc for elite status for the academy, Shankland, Smith, Sporle etc coming in but we also seem to have over 3500 to average gates this season. Bit would like the real figures without the snide comments.

Good point forgot about that option!!!

Not everyone's does, will depend on its initial configuration. Ours for example if its been held and released automatically there won't be anything kept. A some systems may have a log file created every day, some its over written regularly. So it will depend on the system. Not saying they can't, just if they can't it doesn't mean its a nefarious reason.

It is. Because it is the SPFL its instantly thought of as that. I think it was @Speroni*1 who asked what sort of things may have caused an email to "not be received", that got me involved in the whys and wherefores of ICT systems. So yes it is convenient, but not outside the realms of credibility or reality. It also shows the issues of leaving things to the very last minute.

The only evidence is what Gardner said on Sportsound yesterday, in that he said Drysdale told him it was sent.

No not necessarily. Dundee's would come.from a different email address than the others, have they scanned the vite at a higher resolution meaning a larger file, have they used the wrong file type and one which may be considered more likely to be compromised etc. There are a variety of reasons why.

Depends on how they've sent it, how they've attached the vote. Doesn't need to have been bounced, the SPFL's mail marshall system may have held it, simple as that.

Would be nothing to do with the service provider. It may be blocked by organisations mail marshall for example. The SPFL guys dealing with the vote would not be informed as they would have nothing to do with this. Certain members of SPFL ICT department may have, only the person dealing with the email systems, but they will have been at home due to public holiday, or on the way home finishing at 5. As someone who works in IT this is VERY probable.

Not necessarily, our organisation has a 20mb limit on all emails. Although quite how the hell they'd manage to make that small slip 20mb I'll never know