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Again THEY HAVE DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS AND AS SUCH THE POPULATIONS IN THESE COUNTRIES HAVE TO LIVE BY DIFFERENT RULES FROM US! sorry to everyone else for shouting.

They were as initially they were talking about lockdown lasting till January! The clubs were asking for money as they couldn't afford to run. There were a multitude of reasons,.but as they don't fit your point of view, or why you'd like to happen they are ignored.

They were told no. They were only allowed to start training a few weeks ago. Only been allowed to tackle since last Monday. They have been asking to play friendlies and told no. You are asking the.same question and being told same answer,.Scot Gov has said NO.

Germany wasn't hit as bad as us. Germany's GOVERNMENT allowed them to play. Scot, N.I. authorities have not. What happens in Germany is completely and utterly irrelevant. Germany speak German, why don't we? Germany drives on the right, why don't we? Answers to both those questions is the same as the football question, we are different countries,.different laws, different situations, different authorities.

@8GamesToGo here is the current situation as per SFA (not SPFL) regarding ALL football. Obviously this may change on Thursday when clubs may get permission to play friendlies and may get the go ahead to start new season on 1st August. As it stands, now Tuesday 7th July we are not allowed by Scot Gov to play football.

“The Joint Response Group can now confirm that ministers have formally approved full contact training for Scottish Premiership clubs from tomorrow, Monday June 29. “We would therefore encourage clubs to inform all team staff as soon as possible to facilitate the updated guidance, and clarify that the approval for full contact training is inclusive of all Phase 4 requirements outlined in the Joint Response Group Return to Training protocols reissued on Friday. “Ministers have underlined that this return to full contact training is subject to observing public health measures, including testing.”

What like France, Belgium, Netherlands N.I. English league 1 and league 2.

Scot Gov is out of step with down south. As you see here SPFL website, states subject to Scottish Government approval.

Exactly, they STILL do not have permission to start on 1st August yet, it's only a plan. It must be really difficult to be a football fan, yet be completely ignorant of any news that effects football from Scot Gov, UEFA, SFA, SPFL, clubs and any other official body. Is even more amazing in this day and age of not just newspapers & TV, but internet, social media etc. It is astounding and to me it begs the question are the really a football fan?

Absolute rubbish. Scot Gov only gave permission for contact training from Monday 6th July. Other countries around the world have different governments and therefore different rules, hence why they have been allowed to play. "they should gett behind reconstruction and try to persuade fellow clubs to do that too" Maybe Ann Budge could have done this. Picked up the phone and chatted to lower league clubs to try and get support, because she didn't. Maybe if she'd spoken with clubs reconstruction may have taken place as the plan behind the headline 14-10-10-10 was rubbish. She was the one put in charge of the reconstruction group. There is no mass pile on on Hearts. Many clubs have been disadvantaged, some far more than others. Also if ICT, Hearts & Rangers hadn't tried to void the leagues, they might also have had more support.

Is that to cover the League Cup? Who had rights to that for this season?

When would the he's have been played? We are in July and are not allowed by Scot Gov to play games. August 1st STILL isn't confirmed. Clubs are asking for permission from Scot Gov to play friendlies. When would games have been played?

It hasn't. The figures were worked out earlier on in this thread and it is less than half of that. If the league hadn't finished, we would have been due Sky a very large amount due to the new contract starting this season not starting when it should and not having the games they should have had, potentially. What free games do Sky have? If you mean the BCD games wouldn't they have negotiated the same type of deal if the leagues had some how been able to finish?

You see the problem with that is this as you haven't read the many,many pages of this thread.... A resolution was put to the clubs Resolution was from the board (made up of club reps from Prem to League 2) The board toolk soundings prior to making this resolution from clubs All clubs had a vote An extremely large number voted for the resolution (81%) A very small number voted against it (19%) If the voting structure was across all clubs rather than Prem, Champ and then League 1& 2, Dundee's vote would have been irrelevant (It isn't and it wasn't). Votes to be in by Friday was a request only, clubs had the balance.of the legally mandated 28 days to vote SPFL screwed up by having a "no" option as only "Yes" votes count. Obviously done to make sure everyone voted. Dundee were knobbled. Why? Why Dundee, why not one of the other no voting clubs? Dundee's vote was in a spam folder it's a conspiracy. It wasn't it was caught by a much more complicated system. It's very common. Aberdeen told not to vote. Not correct,. confirmed by SPFL and McCormack that Aberdeen were told it didn't matter if they voted as by that time the number of "yes" votes for premiership clubs had been reached. If Aberdeen voted "no" it couldn't change anything, "yes" would simply have been confirming what was already known. Hearts, Partick & Stranraer aren't the only clubs affected. Approx 16 clubs (someone will correct me), lost out on potential playoff places. Brechin have been saved! From a playoff as were another approx 7 clubs from potential relegation playoffs. Disgraceful Raith Rovers have been promoted, it's such a shame on Kelty Hearts. Kelty who were 6pts. ahead of Bonnyrigg who had a game in hand & 5 games to go. Consistency is important. Clubs could have done the right thing by voting for reconstruction! Problem was behind the headline grabbing 14-10-10-10 it was shit and could have damaged more clubs. Budge needed to listen to other clubs and take onboard their thoughts. If so reconstruction could have gone ahead. Hearts, ICT & Rangers tried to have league voided. Confirmed by 6 Championship clubs & since then BBC source Gardiner has been very quiet. This lost Budge goodwill. Clubs are voting with self interest. So are Hearts , Partick & Stranraer. Allowing Champions is because Hearts have shat it big style knowing they'd have Celtic (and the power behind the throne Lawell ) on their case. We aren't allowed to play football yet by Scot Government. UEFA has a deadline of August 3rd(I think it is) for leagues ranked below 16th. SPFL is one of those. We couldn't finish leagues, see N.I. Countless leagues have finished the same way as us, France, Belgium, N.I., English League 1 & 2. This isn't unique to us. That should have you caught up. It's not a Doncaster the Great & Powerful's doing. Very difficult situation, where no matter what was done, harm would have been done to clubs. This was trying to do the minimum amount of harm possible to the least number of clubs possible. Democratic votes, could have all been voted down if so poor. Far too many clubs & Doncaster have been involved to be one person's fault. Budge though has played a blinder in having the support completely overlooking the poor play last season and the.dreadful performances this season. Your all caught up now and shouldn't need to.go over anymore debunked ideas. Thanks

That's fine, it's not compulsory. I'll stick in £20 anyway to cover my wee lad's ticket too.

Partick remind me of the bloke at the of the night hiding behind their wife/girlfriend giving it "'mon then!!!" English has been an utter disgrace throughout this. I have no issue with him having his own view, it's just his blinkered, there is no merit in anything anybody else says or does. His back pedaling when called out on that tweet is astounding. It can only be read in one way, with one meaning.

I have no issue with it at all. The bid went in prior to the action of "those two". None have gone in since. This bill is 3 clubs, not just United. We have 5500 approx season ticket holder. A tenner from each and that's £55000. That's a huge help, never mind what Raith & Cove fans do. This is completely unbudgeted for. Doing the above helps out, keeps my club in a better position, helps out 2 others all the while not stuffing our budget to stay in the Premiership and run our academy.

We bid that prior to the court action being lodged. No bids have gone in since.

But, as per Companies Act 2006 there was still the balance of the legally mandated 28 days to lodge votes. Only yes votes are required, so no votes are in effect "no vote". As such Dundee did what they, and anyone else.qho voted no, had the right to do and change that, in effect non vote, to a yes. Where SPFL have screwed up is in having the ability to vote no,.which was unnecessary, but probably done to make sure every club returned as vote.

They had this served on them too. They were specifically named as respondents in the action Hearts lodged with the court.

But as only yes votes count and once votes are cast those that haven't votes yes have, up until the legal mandated 28 days deadline, the ability to change their mind and vote yes. This is exactly what Dundee did

No United did not as the proposals were crap and badly thought out. Cove and Raith Rovers did. That is a statement from all 3 clubs from United's website. Could have been linked from Cove's or Raith's. Did HMFC and PTFC have to specifically mention United, Cove & Rovers? Nope they could have achieved the same thing by going against SPFL only. Goes against the "no club should be harmed" mantra does it not?

Yes, the same statement has been put out by all 3 clubs, with cost being shared between them.

Just catching up on yesterday's Sportsound. When you have Chick Young coming across as reasonable & sensible then it's time to give up. Groundhog Day is the only way to describe the output. They quality of the chat befits Off the Ball's tag line of "petty & I'll informed" as the likes of Derek Ferguson match this description perfectly.

Read that last night. Bit of a shock to read someone doing this. Whatever your views on Bill Leckie it is good to see published views from the other side.of the argument. The comments on Twitter under it were sadly predictable.