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Yup, had a look on earlier, couldn't believe it. Sportsound with Ex Hearts player McCann Ex Hearts player & fan Preston Ex Hearts player & fan Michael Stewart(not on recently admittedly, but was on from start) Tom English nothing more needs said! Then we have Chick Young and Derek Ferguson not to mention Tam Cowan. All of them have supported Hearts or many of Hearts arguments, day after day. Pretty much every broadcast has been pro Hearts. It is hard to find a voice giving an opposite point of view. It's quite dangerous as this isn't a black and white issue, there is no definitive right or wrong. Both sides need aired otherwise it's just an echo chamber with views getting entrenched.

Because, if you read the report by Lord Clark, he said he did not have time to deal with what was a complicated and time consuming legal argument. Due to the fact there was a time limited to get this situation sorted. He said he.wouls give it time if required. That would require though an error in law by the arbitration panel.

??????? And what does this have to do with not being able to afford it and then relying on a gift from someone to pay for it and join Heart's action. Released the findings? That is just the advice that they were given. It's the same as you or I having a dispute with a neighbour and going to a solicitor then publicising what you were told. It's not official fundings, it's a solicitor's view. It means he feels it wouldn't be a waste of time to take the case.

No Lord Clark said that it was a football dispute and should stick to the rules and go to arbitration. With regards the motion that was thrown out, that was because there was not enough time to go through the arguments in court, not that neither side was right or wrong.

Thistle themselves had said on 15th June they could not afford court action and would get their justice by gaining promotion back to the Championship. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53052757 They then took up a "generous offer" of funded legal action and were then combining with Hearts who had already said that they had put the matter in hands of solicitors. Again you keep with the line that you believe that the Scot Gov would have allowed football of only they had down what was already being done in speaking between football authorities and Scot Gov. Scot Gov had said no and clubs couldn't afford to play. It must be great telling everyone they are wrong,some of us have spent ages reading through SG, SFA etc announcements, while putting forward the square root of hee haw to show how it could have been done. The bit in bold.. pot kettle black, with regards comments on Raith and Cove situation.

Utter, utter condescending shite! We voted in a democratic fashion against a piss poor reconstruction offer. Hearts because it is they, Thistle are hanging on the coat tails, could (and again not too sure how long it has to be repeated until it sinks in) gone to arbitration weeks and weeks ago. Which is the situation we are in now, but would have saved all the money spent on legal fees. Just because it would save you, it doesn't mean the reconstruction idea was good. If it had been any good the clubs would have voted for it. To answer your question yes, yes you are! By the way has it sunk in yet that the league couldn't have been played? Or do you need the facts repeated for another 40 pages??

It is here, almost £30000 https://gf.me/u/yfxha4

The clubs talked with each other and could have voted no. A bit like how Budge spoke to all the other clubs over reconstruction? No wait she didn't and just ploughed on ignoring any concerns.

Really? Here was me thinking Hearts were coming out of this like prize cockwombles! To be fair that might be an exaggeration, based on some fans! Can you tell me what Dundee United, or in fact their Chairman have done wrong exactly? Hearts were to put it mildly fucking shite all season. Over bloated, under talented squad. Hearts form was not any better than those around them ( the mythical Ross County free fall) etc. League is called. By a democratic vote. Fairly understandable taking into account ALL situation and Government advice. Hearts complain Hearts Mrs Budge gets to head up a reconstruction group. Hearts, ICT and Rangers try to get leagues voided as confirmed by 6 Championship clubs. Mrs Budge puts forward a reconstruction plan that fails as behind the headline clubs feel it is extremely poorly thought out and is rushed through. It seems to be to save Hearts from relegation than the best for Scottish football. Mrs Budge claims someone has come to her (her words on radio that she had nothing to do with it) she is acting as an intermediary with regards a large gift. Gets upset as SPFL ask for a written proposal with regards what strings, who it is anti money laundering laws etc. Everyone else wonders why person couldn't just access internet and get SPFL'S phone number. James Anderson and SPFL agree gift. Hearts put in reconstruction proposal and is rejected. Clubs feel behind the headlines it is poorly thought out and rushed through and seems to be for saving Hearts rather than best for Scottish football. This is seen in the fact that Mrs Budge did not speak to any of the clubs to gauge any worries or requirements of lower league clubs which was very discourteous and some might say arrogant. Hearts (& Thistle) launch court action. Hearts & Thistle "win" the right to go to arbitration under the Arbitration Act (Scotland) 2010. Costing large sums of money to get to do EXACTLY what the SPFL's rulebook says to do with football disputes, where it says to go to SFA who will arrange arbitration under the Arbitration Act (Scotland) 2010. Again who exactly is coming out of this well?

It's.not just us looking for our own fees for fucks sake. How many times do people need told something?? This money is going to pay Raith Rover's fees, for what I'm sure is the 3rd time a club chairman that has already said the fees could end them! It is also for Cove Rangers. The statement were a joint statement written by three clubs, much like Hearts and Thistle pit out exactly the same statement. Can Hearts? As far as anyone can see their fees are being paid for by the benefactors that keep the club afloat.

The cut from the playoffs must be near £1000000. Back in 2015 clubs tries to drop the SPFL cut from 50% to 25%. It was reported then that that would give the clubs in the playoffs £500000. The SPFL's cut gets distributed to all clubs in the leagues.

Blair Sturrock son of Paul Sturrock Chris Hegarty son of Paul Hegarty Declan Glass son of Stephen Glass Kevin Gallacher grandson of Patsy Gallacher To add a few with United links.

Seemingly £30000 less than we received from Hearts. Don't know if true, but that's the story.

Bit of a shorter there for Bonnyrigg Rose don't you think? Should they go to court too? Again Kelty Hearts were 6 points clear of Bonnyrigg Rose. But Bonnyrigg Rose had a game in hand and 5 games to go. More chance of Bonnyrigg overtaking Kelty than Hearts getting safe. It's fantastic watching the arguments being twisted to fit the line. If it's OK for Bonnyrigg to lose out then surely it's OK for Hearts to go down?

Schools still aren't definitely open. It is still back to normal for schools IF medical/scientific advice allows.

All of what they didn't want to output in public was confidential contracts between BT Sport, Sky etc. We have already seen Hearts court action leaked by someone. That could only have come from Hearts, Thistle, Stranraer, United,Rovers, Cove or SPFL. I seriously doubt anyone from the Courts would have considering the handle this sort of suff all the time and it would be gross misconduct and P45 time. SPFL made a big point about not giving documents to clubs due to Contempt of Court issues. That leaves. one of the clubs. That is why they didn't. If taken at face value and they didn't lie to Lord Clark.

Again,you are just going with the same thing "lobby" . They did. Journalists asked questions. The reponse was effectively, it's sport not really a priority. We also had responses from Sturgeon herself that she did not want football full stop due to in her view fans going round folks houses to watch on tv. What about ALL the other situations? You have to include those too.

It is entirely possible to be 100% against the SPL's decisions in 2012 and be supportive of decisions made by SPFL in 2020. The 2012 decision were made in secret within the 5 way agreement. 2020's SPFL was made by a resolution put to the clubs for a vote by the board which contained club reps from all 4 leagues. It doesn't mean that everything is Rosey, nor you are 100% behind everything SPFL has done since they came into being 8 years ago.

No we didn't, shankland isn't the top earner and last.season wasn't in the top 4 earners at the club. Again devoid of facts.

NO. It has been explained countless times. Clubs could not furlough staff untill they knew the leagues were over. Clubs, not all granted, were begging for the money as they still had costs to pay for with NO money coming in. We have only had permission for contact training for less than two weeks. The Scot Government also said originally NO FOOTBALL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Again for what feels like an eternity asking without an answer WHEN WOULD THE GAMES BE PLAYED????

See bold. See point one on previous reply. I'll say it again, that is utter bollocks. I could.explain, but I fear putting more facts in front of you will go the same way as all the other ones. It has also been commented on by myself and others many times explaining the situation at United. I also point out the answer to my second point, this is not Dundee United. This is Dundee United, RAITH ROVERS and COVE RANGERS. RR have already said this could be extremely dangerous. We do not know the deal between the 3 clubs.

One that's utter bollocks Two Raith Rovers have said this could finish them. This is not DU but DU ,RR and Cove. It is also something that may well have repercussions for many clubs.