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  1. 1 hour ago, skinny arab said:

    When we signed Niskanen he were told he was a winger but whenever he plays for Finland it’s at wingback so not sure what his natural position is meant to be. I think given his work rate/playing style he needs to be playing in a high tempo team to get the best out of him and we have to be one of the slowest most pedestrian teams in the league at times. 

    This. We are so slow, predictible and easy to defend against it us unreal. Yet everytime we play well or do something well on the park it appears, to me anyway, that is because we have actually moved the ball quickly, forward and stretching the oposition. For an example see Fletcher's goal yesterday.

  2. 17 hours ago, skinny arab said:

    Fair dos, recently was the wrong choice of words but earlier in the season when he was getting brought on he was poor however he definitely deserves a chance to stake a claim for a regular place as it’s not like we have a team of players who are in such form that changes shouldn’t be made. 

    The problem with Niskanen is he is a winger. A winger who is best at driving forward into space. He has proved this. Unfortunately we play him at left back (and sometimes right back), or we play very slowly and give him the ball surrounded by defenders.

    This is one of the issues with our season. We have players, but the manager won't use them properly (or at all). He seems to have an issue with players who want to drive forward and not slow play, allegedly safe option all the time.

    I find the manager's blindness utterly frustrating.

  3. 48 minutes ago, scamp1909 said:

    Is anyone actually sure why Mulgrew got POTM last night?

    Every time the ball came near him I couldn't watch. I and a few mates agreed he was far from POTM.

    Match sponsors wanting a photo with Mulgrew? Other than his goal,.which was very well taken, I thought he had a stinker. I've seen the description of him being "rusty".which I thought was very kind.

    Fletcher for me was MOTM, can only assume they've met him before!

  4. 9 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:

    Good result tonight but not a great performance. County looked absolutely awful for long spells but could still have nicked a couple of goals. I think we're definitely more aggressive under Fox and have learned how to score. I think that'll be enough to see us pull clear before the end of the season.

    Best performance from Harkes for a long while, particularly the dirty side of the game. Smith was good as was Fletcher. Back three all looked uncomfortable and McMann struggles to create much going forward. 

    Thought he put.in a decent shift, not perfect, but decent. His demanding ify the ball from Birighitti, run and cross for Middleton was great and reallly good to see.

  5. Obviously pleased at the result, scoring of goals & winning the proverbial 6 pointer. Some nice bits of play BUT some absolute horrendous mistakes and casual play that we have witnessed time after time this season and we won't get away with against better teams.

    Fox says on the radio."...Mulgrew brings calmness". He had me watching through my fingers tonight. Apart from the gaol I didn't think he had a great game. The defence has a whole were too hesitant and at times panicky.

    Midfield at times is non existent allowing too much time on the ball for the opposition. Need to tighten that up

    Fletcher though, for me, was head and shoulders above everyone else tonight. Hollding the ball up, closing down and harrying the county defence, bringing others into the game etc. We do need to get others to support him and get closer to him.  Happened a number of times he hahd the ball, looking for support & no one with 10-15 yards of him.

    Again though I am happy with the result and 3 goals. Would just love to feel confident we aren't going to do something stupid at the back and chuck it.


  6. 1 hour ago, ArabFC said:

    That was obviously what they did, but again, earmarked to leave by who? Ashgar?

    Fox was caretaker - they were obviously considering him for the job full-time, but they moved Clark on anyway. And brought in another forward.

    Im not even suggesting there’s anything wrong with this - it’s always made sense to me that clubs shouldn’t devolve all transfer decisions to managers that are often around for a year, or less.

    The point is decisions are clearly being made without a manager, so I doubt JR had the freedom most appear to presume.

    Had he always had his eye on the two Aussies for example?

    I as a fan would just like the club to be honest about the decision making structure.

    Birighitti was  Ross signing seemingly, McGrath and Middleton were both Ross signings also.

    They don't need to be as such though, recommendations are out to him, he brings his own,looks at the options and chooses 1st,2nd etc choice TA goes to try and get them. I'm sure that has been said by the club previously that's how it works, which would be them being honest, but (many) fans don't or won't believe it.

    Can only assume that Clark was told.he could leave, but he'd be around until a bid came in. STJ have come in after agent has informed them about situation and off he goes. If this is refused then do you have an unhappy player? To be honest I'd have been OK with Clark staying if played along side Fletcher as Anaku was yesterday.

  7. My thoughts on our team/squad is we are down. Unless there is a big change then for me that's it. The season will determine exactly how bad it is.

    For the squad as @SGMilnepoints out above, we signed "exciting" attacking minded players. We have signed players, but have not created a TEAM. A team is greater than the sum of its parts, what we put out appears to be less than the sum of its parts.

    Not going through every player, but a few "highlights"

    Edwards is not a captain, seems myopic when receiving the ball at the back and can't see players wide open, especially to his right. He also seems to be unable to make a decision quickly.

    Graham seems lost, still a young lad though

    Behich for someonne who has over 50 caps, won the cup and league in Turkey as well as being signed for €4 million in the past, is poor. For someone who is known for bombing forward he is completely shirking responsibility. Almost every single time the ball came to him in that first half, irrespective of the situation it was first timed right back to the defender who gave it to him.  Most of the time there was 1 Saints.player in front of him and space behind for him to run in to.

    Harkes, too soft, has ability, but not when under pressure in games. Harkes & McGrath cannot play in the same midfield. One or the other and on today's showing that should be McGrath.

    Fletcher, seems to care, one of a few that shows they do. Needs support and time machine to go back 5 years.

    Anaku looks very promising. Has pace, heart and a will to win. A few in this squad could do well to copy. Deserved his start and worked well with Fletcher

    Levitt, compared to last season's best performances for me, is playing too deep. Although it has to be said that's where he was playing for Wales, but he appears lost and completely ineffectual, with games passing him by. He looked far, far better after Harkes went off and he moved further forward. He needs to be played further forward with us or he is a passenger. Having said that it doesn't help him if no one is making a move for the ball.

    We play far too slowly and do not attack collectively. No one will take a shot when in position and pass the responsibility to someone else.

    The lack of an aggressive DM is killing us. Ignoring what may or may not have gone on, Butcher would have torn his team mates a new arsehole in a performance like that and would have at least have earned a booking for going through someone. He would have driven the team on and a player in that ilk would have broken up attacks, and then allowed Levitt and McGrath to play. Would also have an added layer of defense before it reached the comedy of errors that is our defence.

    The team is too passive, not strong enough, Harkes being brushed time after time off the ball. He wasn't the only one. The fact that there is no real reaction, no dig, no tackles, no imagination, no movement, no busting a gut, just flat nothingness is incredible. There has been one real blip at home to AZ, and the rest other than that win against Livi in the cup, is just insipid pish and that's being polite. The thing is from the on pitch reactions, some of these players  just can not have any personal or professional pride, and are completely lacking in awareness of the current situation. McGrath in his DUTV interview thought we were the better team but didn't take chances. We had more possession but it's the no purpose defender to defender to wingback to defender to midfielder to defender to no one.

    I'm so scunnered at the whole thing so far, so annoyed, I'm no longer annoyed if that makes sense. See no signs of getting out of the  current situation, it's just shite!

  8. 30 minutes ago, ArabFC said:

    Didn’t he?

    I know he said he didn’t, but what input did he actually have on transfers?

    Listening to Sportsound before the game, Liam Fox was asked if he would’ve liked to have kept Nicky Clark and he responded… “That wasn’t up to me so I won’t answer that question.”

    Maybe JR did want one but Fat Tony was making the call.

    That was a complaint Hibs fans had over his team. While he signed Gogic, he didn't ay him that often and seemingly did the same with Sunderland.


  9. 3 hours ago, SGMilne said:

    Rumour has become fact, so let's assume that he did come in and piss of Charlie Mulgrew and Tony Watt who then rooted against him. How is that good management? How is coming in and immediately getting two of the most influential players in a side who finished fourth offside a good thing?  It's not; it's nuts. Jack Ross seems to piss players off at every club he goes to, and outside of one season at St. Mirren, doesn't have a great track record. 



    Have to agree with pretty much everything said by @SGMilne A vast number of our fans these days have to have a "bogeyman" real or imagined. Everything has to be the fault of one person. Also opinions seem to change or indeed flip-flop as often as the date changes.

    The one thing I'd expand on though is the quoted bit. I remember all the comment last season about how we had 2 managers, one in the dugout and one on the pitch. I have also seen us last year slow the play down from the back, usually at the request of 1 player, stopping us from taking advantage of the opposition being out of position, while watching Courts react negatively. It wasn't a big reaction but you could see he was not pleased. You'd then hear him in the interview talking about how he wanted the play to be quicker etc. That ties in with some of what I'd heard about one source of friction.

    On the appointment he'll have my support, I just hope this isn't the easy option that doesn't annoy/upset the playing squad, and I would have given him to the end of the season, unlelss we have a walk a way option if it goes badly.

    It is mostly reported that Fox lead the training and put into practice what Courts wanted & is respected by the players. Having them play for you is half the battle (or more than half) and hopefully that continues.

  10. 8 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

    Therefore disregard their views on Scottish fitba. 

    Sound argument.

    I commissioned a pipeline in Yemen, that means I contributed to the oppression in the Arabian peninsula. Don't make me laugh.

    I still sell oilfield equipment to the Saudis but from my office in Dundee, I must be the worst.

    Aye, but isn't that as you said earlier because your a Dee c**t on a United thread??😉

    I misread that as selling oil to the Saudis and was almost extremely impressed!!


  11. 2 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

    Shot across the boughs of Asghar senior surely?

    Stop burning our money 

    Why? Seen that line pulled in another forum, can't see why it, makes no sense. He's not being sacked, he's leaving under "mutual consent" with a nice write up, unlike others who have left recently.

    The "not happy with you, so I'll not do anything to you but we'll get rid of your son you didn't want at the club in the first place" all seems a bit gangster, small time and un business like for me.

    Suspect its more like an offer has come in, hes asked to be released from contract, we've thought he can go and allow new man to bring in own staff without us having to pay folk off etc.

    He'll probably go to Swansea with Goldie who brought him to Tannadice.

  12. 1 hour ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

    Swansea bound? Budapest?

    Some fans will be very happy to see him go, I'm unsure of what his input was so not bothered one way or another.

    Swansea would be my guess. He at the SFA under Goldie who brought him to United. Supposedly a good.coach, but never accepted at United and could never be promoted as the outcy and conspiracy theories would go mental.

  13. 2 hours ago, ArabFC said:

    The real test comes when we next concede an early goal.

    It's easy to run hard and work when you're winning - it's the collapses when we've gone behind which have been damning.

    I'd quite agree, although it appears the the hard work and hard running was more prevelant last night at 0-0 than it was against Livi at home at the same or score or against St. Mirren.

    The improvement needs to continue. I just found it telling that Liam Fox felt he needed to mention it as it is at odds with his comments regarding "player power" at United and not playing for Ross.

  14. 3 hours ago, ArabianKnight said:

    Weirdest feeling right now. 

    Happy we've scored a couple goals but also fucking raging these c***s have turned it on now Ross has gone. 

    Professional pride eh. 

    Telling that Liam Fox says in his interview with DUTV

    "Like I've just said to the guys there,  shouldn't have to ask professional football players to run hard and to work as that just be a given. So that's where we need to get back to"



  15. It's good we are 2 up at half time. It's good we are putting in a performance.

    I'm not happy though, it just shows these b*****ds on the park weren't putting the effort for the last few weeks.

    They'll have to keep this up (performance wise) all bloody season to be forgiven for what I've witnessed on the park recently.

    May they keep me getting angry during the 2nd half as they show the effort missing previously!

  16. 39 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

    Why do we have a cup tied goalie on the bench

    Alan Temple of the courier tweeted the rules relating to this. Players are not cup tied if they play in the group stages, only counts as cup tied in the knock out stages.



  17. 5 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said:

    But the right back from the Championship shouldn't be getting a game over Freeman who's a far better option. All imo of course.

    Quite agree, but one thing in Smith's defence he is the only one who appears visibly angered and annoyed by what is happening and seems to be letting team mates know it. The rest jusut head down shuffle about staring at the ground.

  18. 2 hours ago, ArabFC said:

    You're correct. My 'problem' is rumours in general.

    Why circulate stuff you know in all likelihood is crap? Maybe you made it up yourself. I don't know.

    How many people on this thread posted Ross was gone in the last 24hrs? Did they know? Nope. They just  went for a 50/50 in the hope of being seen as 'itk'. A rumour is born.

    Opinions on the other hand are great. Crack on.

    My opinion is that we should stick with him for now, and I get red-dotted to shit for it because I'm defo in the minority on that one! Do I care? No. It's actually quite illustrative.

    I hadn't commented until then. As said a poster ASKED what the rumours were, I told him what the rumours are. I also said it may be shite.

    Knock yourself out, crack on red dotting rather than speaking about it. At least you have written a reply rather than a childish "I don't like that " red dot.

    You possibly are in the minority, but this is a forum if no-one posts rumours the whole fecking  site near falls on its arse.

    Have you not been one of the posters talking about how crap and a total liability Eriksson was even though you hadn't seen him play and were basing it on rumours that you may or may not have made up to be ITK? If not then sorry I may have you mixed up with another poster.

    Most of the posts in the last 24 hours saying Ross was gone were other clubs fans posting links to him leaving Sunderland and Hibs.

    My take on it is that there is a player led revolt over something or other at the club, that is clear for all to see as they are not playing for him and he looks shell shocked. In this there is usually only one loser which is the manager. If he goes though the players undermining him win. Although I'd be happy to chip in a few quid along with a few others to get shot of half the squad no matter how talented, or how well they did last year. The attitude shown by the majority of the playing staff is piss poor, out of order and basically sticking two fingers up at the fans who effectively pay for their lifestyles. There are a few exceptions, but not many.

    The.only other explanation is Jack Ross is shite and needs to go before we potentially find ourselves any further adrift at the bottom of the league.

    Do I think he is completely shite? No I don't BUT he has made mistakes and still hasn't been able to kick the slow, one-paced, directionless, no shots, no creativity pish football we've been served up when not chucking it ( AZ at home excluded). He has said though that that is not what he wants, so is that on the players? The players though are weak, timid, responsibility dodging cowards and something needs to change sooner rather than later or we could be set with a loser mentality for the season and in big trouble.


  19. 10 hours ago, TheScarf said:

    Am I right in saying that's basically the same defence they had in the Championship?  Minus that big bald lump who's name escapes me.  Combine that with probably the worst manager in the league in Jack Ross, and you're in trouble.

    No. Different goalkeeper, 2 different cenntre halves and a different left back. The right back is the same as the Championship winning side.

  20. 1 hour ago, Pull My Strings said:

    I thought Eriksson did okay today, tbf. The goals were either well-taken or (mostly) tap-ins against unmarked runners.

    He is probably shite though, just not blaming him for the goals today. Don't know about Birighitti. Obviously the A League's not great but you would expect the 'goalkeeper of the year' for two years running to be at least ha;lf decent.

    Thing is Eriksson was the goalkeeper of the year in the Allsvenskan helping his team to 9th place out of 16th in the league, a team that shouldn't have been anywhere near that position with stats better than Benji,  is also current Finnish no. 2 with 1 cap. He's not shite, but many fans have written him off due to not replacing Benji towards the end of last season. The keepers are afforded absolutely no protection by those in front.

    The comment about Szromnik/Zwick vibes is interesting. We've brought back Craig Hinchcliffe as GK coach. He's the same coach that turned Rado nervous and turn the Polish under 21 international and top Polish goal keeping prospect Szromnik into a goal keeping imposter. How much is that having an effect?


  21. 2 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:

    I've seen nothing from these players previously to suggest that they are bad eggs (Watt aside, maybe). No doubt the relationship is fucked but if everyone has fallen out with the boss, or his methods at least, then it may simply be that the boss is wrong. Against Celtic you need to be organised and well drilled. With the best will in the world the players can't do that on their own. These things are down to preparation during the week. 

    The team that started today had nine players from last season. Last season's team were incredibly well drilled defensively. This team look like they've  barely met each other before. 

    Part of that may be because they don't like or trust the manager but if they aren't being properly prepared then what chance do they have? And, if Ross is properly preparing them but they still don't trust him then just how obnoxious must be be. If they hate him, why do they hate him?

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter who's at fault. One of the parties in this mess needs to be replaced and you can't change the entire squad.

    Always the case the manager pays the price. I agree with you to a  ertain extent about preparation, but players can still try, mark up(they have eyes in their head FFS), track, look like they give a f**k in general.

    Some of the defending was amateur at best. Goal 5 has Edwards wandering about half-hearted.doing the square root of feck all. Other goals (lost count as to exactly which ones they were to be fair) McMann ambles back with a player running in to tap the ball in, plus the other almost carbon copy goals. 2nd goal stems from McMann (I think it was) doing exactly the same thing as led to a goal by Livi, trying to play the ball centrally under pressure. If he had just punted it clear or put it out to regroup. These things are on the players. One of the only players that visibly looked pissed off was Liam Smith, others may well have been internally but too many just seemed to go "Oh well, these things happen" and continued onwards in the same vain.

    Training, preparation for the game, tactics and line up, changes through the game, that's on the manager and he is culpable. Strength on the ball,passing ability, onfield decisions, lack of tracking, lack of tackles, just lack of using any common feccking sense on the field of play and on field.commitment to the cause amd professional pride thats squarley on the players.

    Pre season wasn't great, Killie was nearly 3pts ( if we had what might have been), AZ at home was great, since then its been disastrous. Something has happened and the players (well some of them) have downed tools.

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