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I think McGinn needs to move now to be honest, I don't think he'll want to wait another season. He's getting to the Eoin Jess stage of "promising youngster". I'm not sure he's as in demand as we might think. Also, Celtic have been proven to be just as good a springboard to the EPL these days as Leeds or whoever.

Bilic ripping into Hoddle and slagging Kane, wonderful stuff.

Yep. They've gone out to the first good team they've played, as everyone said they would. They've not really proven much, apart from the fact they bottled it big time when it was there for the taking.

England shit the bed big time. Ha ha ha.

England picked it back up again. Looking more likely.

Everyone is just waiting for England to score their second. The ref might as well blow the final whistle when they do.

England have been excellent. If it's 2-0 at half time (which it should be) this game is over.

There's an article kicking about which lists all Stubbs signings for Hibs and it's impressive, though I'm not sure how many of them were complete unknowns before they arrived, as this new batch of Saints players are. I can understand why some of our fans are nervous to be honest. The two seasons we signed a load of relative unknowns from England or the lower leagues weren't great. I'm happy to give it a chance, plenty of teams have followed this route and done extremely well out of it. Hopefully it's our turn this time.

I think we need to prove we are a big game team more than anything else. Last season we were flat track bullies. Turned over the shiters with big scores but lost every single game against a big team who were actually trying.

Ali Price is a good player. He had a ropey season last year but I think he's a better option than Pyrgos, who most on here were wanting punted at the start of this season. He's only 25 as well.

At least Stubbs isn't hiding. Like Ross 18 months ago, he's getting his own squad together, ruthlessly punting anyone he doesn't fancy and he's going to live or die off the back of his own decisions rather than use the inherited squad excuse if things go tits up. I'm encouraged by that to be honest.

ICT might have paid £0 in the championship with no local derby to be honest. I think most games in the league apart from derbies and games with a larger than usual travelling support expected will have been stewards only.

Yeah, it's only really great when it works. If it doesn't you just end up looking like a bit of a fanny.

They could. They bottled the shoot out though and are going home, so in the end it didn't matter. It'll be forgotten about by next week.

There wasn't really any point in sending the guy off anyway. I don't think Croatia would have gained much advantage in the two minutes or whatever, they just had to score the penalty and nobody would care. I'm sure if it had happened in the 60th minute the guy would have walked, but at that point I think it was fair enough for the ref to give him the benefit of the doubt.