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39 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:
According to some melt sitting close to us, Falkirk were shite and didn't try. Moaning faced b*****d. Every time Donaldson (who I don't think put a foot wrong) went near the ball it was 'c'mon you fur fuks sake'. Doesn't normally sit anywhere near us so he's probably one of those 'fans' that just turn up for the bigger games so that they can whine their faces off!
Maybe moans on here too?
There was a lot more moaning around me as well. First time I've heard it this season and I wondered if it was maybe folk coming to their first game in a while. We weren't great obviously, but not poor enough to deserve a slagging.
It was disappointing because the KM7 has felt a really positive place to be. Last week against Montrose when we had 2 setbacks during the game the fans never turned. I felt like there was a few starting to today.
Ultras were good as always in responding to moans by trying to lift it. At one point in the second half I think it was clear they were trying to drown it out.
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10 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:
Any chance of a shock return for Calvin Miller tomorrow? About ready to see his #swagger back in my Saturdays.
Unless McGlynn was bluffing at the AGM then I don't think so. Another couple weeks wait I reckon.
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How good would it feel this time tomorrow to be 3 points clear.
The anticipation before a big game just cannot be beaten.
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18 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said:
So, if we don't get promoted and have to go part time, it's all the fans fault. Nice.
Not how I take it.
Falling backwards would not be our fault, but we do have the chance to push things forward.
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FSS or part-time football. I know what way I'm going.
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I'd assumed our pen was for handball? Whoever the Montrose player was just threw themselves on top of the ball.
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The last 3 games have shown we can win from any situation. We've methodically broken down a defensive unit (Qots), we've ran over the top (Kelty) and we've motored through the gears to overcome setbacks (today).
Incredibly pleasing and I really am falling in love with this team. Next week is the test.
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35 minutes ago, Van_damage said:
Ultimately the most important part moving forward is that lessons have been learned however upon listening to the podcast it seems the blame has been pushed at members for getting the wrong end of the stick more than any miscommunication.
Caveat this with I haven't listened to the podcast so don't know what was said, but my understanding is that it wasn't the 25% target that was misunderstood but how to get there.
The misunderstanding was that for FSS to get to 25% they would require share donation rather than buying the shares from the club.
I agree with you though that this was on FSS for not communicating that clearly rather than members not understanding.
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12 minutes ago, Disco Duck said:
Apart from, y’know, issue more shares in return for the cash.
Yeah I guess, but I can see why the club doesn't want to do that. The statement talks about endlessly issuing shares as disproportionately inflating our market value (or something like that).
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13 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:
Interesting statement. Not sure how well the FSS subscriptions now being solely a donation to the club with the FSS membership having effectively no say on how they are spent will go down. Tbh I am surprised that has been agreed to.
Now that the shares have been bought there are very little other options available other than donation. It is what happens with most fan owned clubs.
Short-term focus on keeping us full-time but driving towards establishment of Falkirk Academy is what was discussed at the members meeting.
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1 hour ago, Mr Grimsdale said:
BPM? Anyway good try. But the fans are not just FSS are they? We 100% have to stick together I agree. But there is 80% + of the support not in FSS so the Board has a duty to look after all the parts. FSS reps would always take feedback from the members. I assume they meet with the FSS committee on a regular basis to get the feedback? What I want to see is everyone working together.
Just a bit of fun
I took umbrage at what I perceived was a suggestion FSS doesn't need a strong personality who would speak for and garner the support of the fans.
I'm especially sensitive at the moment that there are attempts circling again to paint football fans as some deviant other - not the club obviously, but wider authorities. It is going to require the same backlash as the OBFTC Act.
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36 minutes ago, Mr Grimsdale said:
Rabble rousing Mick Lynch’s are the last thing this club or the fans needs currently
Can't agree with you there BPM.
Now, more than ever, we've got Governments prepared to legislate against not only fans wishes, but fans themselves! Ensuring we've got a board who will not only stand against that (which to their credit the new board have), but can empower the support to stand together is a vital aim of a fan owned club.
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Feeling uneasy this morning, but only cause I'm not normally this confident going into match. It's a new experience.
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On 02/08/2023 at 12:49, Bairney The Dinosaur said:
Week 1: Falkirk
Week 2: Forfar
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During preseason and some the quieter League Cup you could hear the shouts for the fullbacks to switch position with whoever the player inside of them was. I thought it showed McGlynn was learning that last season our positioning was inflexible.
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27 minutes ago, Hartleys18/19Army said:
Also what was Mcglynns issue in a post match interview saying perhaps Allan has a discipline issue? Sent off for us but on another day gets away with it. At past he was trying to do something about the scoreline.
I took that more to mean that he thought there may be an issue with whoever issues the suspension because Allan's actions didn't deserve a 3 match suspension.
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1 hour ago, Barr said:
Im due to sit down with Jamie this afternoon for a catch up pod, any questions for him that I’ll add to my list?
Once things start to become a bit more stable in terms of finances what would be the first 'off the field' project he would like to see at the club.
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Week 1: Falkirk
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1 hour ago, Springfield said:
I might be completely wrong but if the board think that they’ll get the minus 400K shortfall made up with FSS subscribers, they need to give themselves a shake.
A few weeks back at the Fan Engagement Day Kenny Jamieson did a presentation and a good chunk of it was related to the 400k shortfall. Previously just about everything the board has said regarding the shortfall has been around the number of FSS subscribers needed to fill it, but it was a bit different this time. He started talking about FSS and the subscriptions increasing, however instead of just focusing on this being used to plug the gap, he seemed to suggest that if FSS began to significantly increase he expected other shareholders (I took it to mean PG and old MSG) would consider investing more too. Therefore we would see all 3 'legs of the stool' providing continual investment.
Seemed to me a much more realistic and desirable way to operate.
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15 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said:
It's an impressive total but actual figure (when you take out the free under 12s) would be interesting. That's the number we need to grow.
I seem to remember U18s estimated to be around 1/5th of total sales. Purely assuming that the breakdown of ages will be roughly the same I think an educated guess of 330ish U12s seems fair. Wouldn't think it would be more than that.
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It's not really been touched on much by the board, other than a brief mention of 'soft loans' last seasons, but I wonder hope much scope there is for continual investment from the Patrons Group. One of the benefits of the '3 legged stool' is having these slightly more flush fans active in the club, but we haven't really heard much from them since that initial investment.
I expect they have been providing in some way and keeping it behind closed doors, but I'd quite like to find out what they've been doing.
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48 minutes ago, Springfield said:
705 if the latest correspondence is up to date. Fantastic effort by all who have contributed.
That would have been about a month ago. I expect with the usual steady build it's closer to 715.
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FFS now bringing in over 100k a year in fan donations
https://twitter.com/FalkirkfcSS/status/1680613524467482625?t=8vmKbtIewobalU0xrJQACw&s=19
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I'm happy with how the opening round of the league cup group stage went mind.
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The Falkirk FC Thread
in Scottish League 1 General Chatter
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Folk probably won't thank me for bringing this stuff back up but I thought it worth mentioning that I'm still completely behind the 3-legged stool model and actually believe it is really important we stick to it. Although I get the premise of what BB is saying, I'm quoting this post as a way of kicking off my thoughts.
All three legs still/can still play a vital role to me.
1. (Small) The collective support from FSS, which does need more buying in (not convinced of 2500 yet but 1200 is a good goal).
2. (Medium) I think of the Patrons Group as almost like the 'business' element of the support. I think it's less important how much money they have (although I'd assume it's more than the average fan), but that they have the time and expertise to run a business. From what I understand it is the connections these people have that has helped bring in the significant uplift in sponsorship and also allows the club to run events for effectively no cost (the PG 'covers' costs). I'd quite like them to publish more of what they are doing because it is good work. I don't expect this group to be matching FSS cash contribution, but it would not surprise me if they brought in this amount (maybe more?) in sponsorships/free work for club.
3. (Large) I think BB post is right. The ones currently in this group are not involved in the day to day. I've absolutely no doubt in my mind though that MR and SA would help if things started to turn again and I don't believe their shares will ever be sold and rather returned to club when that time comes. Moving forward though, if the small and medium shareholders can collectively run the club sustainably, the large group becomes so much more attractive for an external investor. I don't think we would see a 4th stand built unless we had someone here.
I reckon that with our Fan ownership model we do have the potential to have the best of all worlds that you wouldn't otherwise get being fully owned by a Fans group.