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22 hours ago, TheScarf said:
I don’t think they have any seats, a requirement for be spfl I believe.
Bonnyrigg have no seats.
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9 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:
Roughly translated as "I know and yous don’t"
Or "I know and not at liberty to say - but can you stop going on about exits?"
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Exits are not the issue.
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Exit gates are not the issue.
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On 06/08/2022 at 21:51, AsimButtHitsASix said:
What's happned to Wigtown & Bladnoch? Always remember them being up at the top end of the SoS. Since Covid they've had a good shout at being the worst team in the whole pyramid.
They took a year out after being runners up in 16-17 and have never been the same as all the players went elsewhere (Stranraer SoS and St Cuthbert W mainly though at least 9 of them were at CReetown last season).
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On 29/07/2022 at 00:58, mcruic said:
Just a brief mention about the 4 new clubs joining from the amateur ranks:
1: Eglinton (Kilwinning Rangers Amateurs) - finished 2nd in Ayrshire Amateurs Div. 2 A (Tier 3) last season.
2: West Park United - Won Central Scottish Championship (Tier 2) last season.
3: Thorn Athletic - Finished 3rd in Caledonian Premier (Tier 1) last season.
4: Easterhouse Academy (Easthall Star) - Finished 4th in Scottish AFL Premier (Tier 1) last season
Eglinton will retain an amateur team in the Ayrshire League.
Easterhouse Academy will also have an amateur team in the Saturday Morning League (they've taken over another amateur outfit, Red Star, who played in the now-defunct Glasgow & District Saturday Morning League last season), another amateur team in the Airdrie & Coatbridge Sunday League, and also an U20 team in the Lowland Development League.
Threave Rovers will have a development team playing in the Dumfries Sunday Amateur League.
Glenvale have taken on the amateur club Carlton YMCA in the Scottish AFL, and will play as Glenvale Carlton next season in that league, and they will also have an U20 team in the Lowland Development League.
Saint Peter's will have an U20 team in the Lowland Development League, and an amateur team in the Saturday Morning League.
BSC Glasgow will have an U20 team in the Lowland Development League.
Kilsyth Athletic will have an amateur team in the Football Central Sunday League (club formerly known as Kilsyth Rovers have become Kilsyth Athletic Sundays).
Harmony Row Youth Club has an amateur team playing in the independent Glasgow Community & Co-operative League (outside SAFA jurisdiction).
Threave Development AFC existed last season and was full of adults so is this something different?
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The elephant in the room really is that NMW will make Scottish semi pro football as it currently is largely amateur. Who wins in that scenario? Everyone gets what nobody wants. Would there be a reduction in player numbers due to lack of (even minor) incentive?
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13 hours ago, parsforlife said:
Maybe coming at things from a different prospective, looks to me we are talking about pro contracts, and not the utterly weird non-contract pro category that the sfa has made up. Said it a thousand times but we really need to get rid of this archaic nonsense, every club should register players with the sfa and submit relevant contract info(wether that be we pay f**k all or he’s or £60k a week) . Our registration system is an outdated joke, a player is a player.
Posts such as below made me think we were thinking of contracted pros. Non-contract pros(a ridiculous term) can’t be paid a single penny above expenses.
You are misunderstanding me I think. When I said "Minimum £1 a week for a full professional contract - players of professional status but effectively signing on amateur terms sign as 'non contract' professionals" it was two separate things separated by the hyphen. NCPs don't get a penny other than expenses. The £1 a week thing was very much the thing before NMW when contracted players got £1 a week wage plus an up front signing on fee. Pollok did not give someone a weekly wage until 2005.
I have no involvement at committee level with any club so no idea how things work nowadays but I am pretty sure there are players happily signing for a grand a season at lower levels and would prefer that to the zero they'd get otherwise.
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1 hour ago, parsforlife said:
It's always going to be a point of when will someone pull the trigger. Yes many guys accept the situation, but someone at some point will , if there a bit skint or if a club tries to prevent them leaving for a properly payed roll will cause all kinds of issues.
It's surely going to be impossible for a club to ask for a transfer fee on someone they're under paying? Lets say someone has a great 6 months and someone comes in and offers them £200 p/w. Club A ask for transfer fee, Club B know player isn't on minimum wage, player asks for release from contract, club can't refuse as they aren't meeting they're obligations.
I guess it comes down to whether a contract becomes invalid in those circumstances.
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On 09/07/2022 at 08:51, craigkillie said:
How does this work with the minimum wage?I think players will accept £20 a week + expenses from club A in the WOSFL than demand minimum wage, the result of which would be playing as an amateur outwith all bar a handful of clubs. It's not like these guys are doing it for anything other than beer money.
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1 hour ago, Lord Elron 44 said:
Might be a daft question but do players who sign a professional contract have to be paid
Minimunm £1 a week for a full professional contract - players of professional status but effectively signing on amateur terms sign as 'non contract' professionals.
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Rossvale senior team have no purpose now. Who do they exist for? No connection to the youth set up or Bishopbriggs.
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On 19/06/2022 at 18:24, Darvel legend said:
No a great loss u were never we going to trouble the sjfa engraver anyway
I remember when your club was watched by 20 people you utter clown. At least we're time-served.
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4 minutes ago, B75 said:
You mean 23-24?
I do, sorry.
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Direction of travel is quite clearly B teams in the SPFL for 23-24... wonder how this particular turd will be sculpted into a tasty-looking burger for the L1/2 sides? They must have some scheme that will push it through.
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Is this the Bonnyton cover in the background here (in front of the industrial shed, as opposed to being ther industrial shed)? I haven'ty been to get my bearings of what's what.
(from BT facebook, saying it's Townholm)
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1 minute ago, Burnieman said:
Have Darvel just pulled out of a cup in the huff?
Yep. The cup John Gall sponsors. Buffs get a walkover to go to final, will play Hurlford or Pollok at Cumnock. I guess there's no pies or beers being given to the finalists?
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13 hours ago, Burnieman said:
Tranent played 34 league games, not sure 4 extra games over the course of 9 months makes that much of a difference.
And in total, that was game 52 for Darvel, game 50 for Tranent (afaik).
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Tranent are clearly no mugs. 16 unbeaten going into the match today.
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47 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Using trialists late in the season that had already been released from their contracts by other clubs wasn't against the rules at the time so your club did nothing wrong.
I think there was one the other way round where a player we released went amateur and popped up as a play off trialist for a Junior club?
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5 minutes ago, Glenconner said:
They kept the Junior Cup going for old times sake.
Not all ex Juniors took part.
I'd expect the Junior Cup to be replaced by a national non league cup competition in future years.
The East / Midlands Region and the North Region are both regions of the Scottish Junior FA.
With line-ups and scorers for all games, probably the best non-league website out there for stattos like me
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18 minutes ago, Glenconner said:
There aren't any Juniors no more.
Is the North Region Junior FA no longer Junior?
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Paying an individual in the past didn't exactly provide silver service. Volunteers do it because they want to.
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20 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
from the malcontent I spoke to Rosyth were getting shafted by Fife Council, Dunfermline Athletic FC and the supermarket.
I fear Rosyth may end up going the way of Steelend Vics.
The best parallel in semi pro football would seem to be Baillieston, as they soldiered on elsewhere before calling it a day. At least their ground got developed.
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Scottish Cup 2022/23
in Domestic Cup Football
Posted
Exit money (£):
Prelim: 2200
R1: 5000
R2: 6500
R3: 9500
R4: 19500
R5: 47250
R6: 102000
SF: 177000
F (W): 352000
F(L): 292000