Casual Bystander

I am still waiting for the evidence for the last "fact" you claimed. Seems like you enjoy being a bit of "knock door run", only with wild accusations and on the Internet.

Are you being selective of your proof? You were adamant about a fact in another thread yet seem somewhat disinclined to provide the proof despite being asked. Yeah, because, you know... that's rock solid proof.

I do believe the technical term for this is "whoosh".

You have to love the nodrones, when the gap was as high as 14% (although that was never really the case) then apparently it is bad for the Yes camp. Then when the gap closed down to 10% it was bad for the Yes camp. Now as the gap closes and with the momentum with the Yes camp it's still bad for them. I presume that if the polls show Yes in the lead and when a Yes vote is delivered on the 18th it will still be bad for the Yes camp.

I'll rephrase, it would be worse if someone sat on the results than if they released them. If Panelbase are known to be collating their results then for some reason those results weren't made public then the worst case scenario would be the assumption.

Can't imagine they can sit on it. Cameron's visit up here with his scaremongering about losing 1 million jobs might have a wee dent in the polls mind, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the following ones drop a little.

Obligatory gif:

Most people on Twitter are quoting a Survation poll of 47 / 53 (ex. undecided)

The above is apparently: "The latest Poll of Polls is based on two polls by Survation, two by YouGov, one by ICM and one by Panelbase, The polls were conducted between 4 and 28 August."

This. All the media behind them, all the government spin engine behind them, all the so called celebs coming out and yet the gap is closing. Just shows you what a ham fisted attempt they have made of it all. I wonder what would happen if something like the Record or Sun (not my choice of paper of course, but some of the brain dead do tend to use them as a political weathervane) were to flip over to Yes. Scenes would follow.

The momentum is with the Yes camp, and as soon as the Bitters realise that and ramp up their dirty tricks people will see them for what they are.

Could you sound any more desperate?

Ah, right, so when you said "extremely accurate" you really meant "extremely accurate but only within the specific restrictions I have failed to mention"? Good, good, so long as we are clear on this. Nothing but subjective nonsense to try and deflect from the facts of the matter. Do keep it up. May I suggest, "you are seething", as your next churlish retort?

Yet I have given more recent examples of them not being extremely accurate. You seem to set yourself up as the 'king of pedantry', but you really don't like it when others do it to you. Still I am sure you will continue to dig away at this.

So you are basing your claim on one result. That seems an entirely suitable way to look at facts.

Really? Yeah, rather than using implicit statements that are not supportable perhaps you should limit your statements to the scope you wish to intend them. The exit poll for the last general election was spot on, I'm certainly not denying that, however your description that they are "extremely accurate" is simply not supportable unless you are intended to use only one example as your test base.

If you wish to be a pendant on other subject then I need to pull you up about that. Now, I should caveat this with the fact that I think exit polls are more accurate than opinion polls for all the obvious reasons, but they cannot be considered "extremely" accurate. The notable one being the Wisconsin 2012 result which was well off the mark, along with the Indian election also showing a different result to what was actually voted for (the polls suggested a win for Modi but only a close one when it was landslide). So, more accurate? Yes. Extremely accurate. No.

Clearly those with the closest votes will take longer as the Bitters desperately spoil papers to get the result they want.

The sad case of a No voter with no vote. Brings tears to a glass eye so it does.

Nobody believes you. You have no vote and your opinion on the matter is void.

The No campaign are absolutely shitting themselves. The gap is closing, the momentum is with the Yes campaign and the so called "win" for Alisdair Darling in the television debate has actually shown the No campaign as narrow minded and unable to view independent holistically.

I genuinely feel that this is changing. Scottish Labour's sycophancy towards their London "owners" has alienated quite a lot of "die hard" Labour voters. When a party that is meant to represent the people of Scotland is more determined to assist those in the echelons of power in London even to the detriment of the Scots they will suffer at the ballot box. Whether it's the repugnant Lamont with her assertions that Scots are not clever enough to understand political debate or Jim Hood openly deriding the very people who elected him, Labour have gambled "all in" on the Union because it has to and the Scottish public will not forgive them easily for such treachery and belittlement.

Yet on the flip side I look upon No voters as toadies who have no will of their own, desperate to show contrition to those who don't care about them. Your patronising shite only underlines the curious mixture of arrogance and ignorance the No vote comprises of.