Fratelli
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Just now, Empty It said:
Hopefully Gordon when he's back, would be a decent back up for the Euros if fit.
Aye that’s the hope, never know with an injury like that at his age but we know never to rule him out.
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Also I’d agree with the chat r.e Patterson. He really hasn’t kicked on. He’s not great at all.
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We would be utterly, utterly fucked without Angus Gunn. We don’t have another keeper who is even close to being good enough.
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Got one of the Guinness nitrosurge sets today. Only had one pint so far but it seems the real deal. Night and day from the standard cans.
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Fucking hell that’s a sickener for Aberdeen. The penalty decision (they should’ve had) is a disgrace.
That said, the defending was absolutely atrocious for both goals. Embarrassing to chuck it like that.
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28 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said:
Is that 10 years now since Celtic's last group stage win?
10 years at home. Beat Anderlecht away under Rodgers in 2017.
Weird feeling tonight. Really quite proud of the performance overall. I feared a scudding, but we played well tonight - particularly the first half where I thought we were terrific. Knocked it about well and really pressed them. They’re a brilliant team and we basically have no bench, so the second half was always going to pan out that way. Overall a draw with Atletico Madrid can only be considered a good result, but in the context of the group it’s a wee bit frustrating. The earlier games biting us in the arse.
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Aye tonight was a non event for me, 4-1 is fine. 5-1 is pumping territory strangely enough but 4-1 is fine. That game will disappear from my memory within about a fortnight.
They’re ridiculous, they’ll batter far better teams than our B team. Even if we’d pumped loads into our infrastructure and produced our best ever crop of players, that lot would probably still give them a hiding. It’s a taster of playing against a top side for them again, will only be a learning experience. Im not going to pretend that I’m even slightly worked up about it, although strangely enough if we hadn’t qualified the other night I’d have cared and been a bit more concerned about this game. I’d maybe have liked to have seen our full strength team in that game, but ah well.
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This has made me realise just how good an addition the Nations League has been. Not felt the international friendly vibe in a good while.
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Shite defending again
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4 minutes ago, Quentin Taranbino said:
Can we start listing things more exciting than listening to Kevin Thomson?
Best suggestion/most greenies gets a tenner donated to charity of choosing
Gareth Gates reading the phone book cover to cover.
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Y’know, I’m not sure about Nathan Patterson anymore. Never really kicked on and has been at fault for a Everton a fair bit this season
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Taken the lead against France and Kevin Thomson sounds like he’s hiding under his bed on the phone to the police as someone burgles his house
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It’s not as if our qualifying situation changed much in the time between Anderson dropping out and now - we were on the brink of qualifying then. I don’t think we’ll see him in a Scotland shirt.
Doak would be good for a bit of fun, and if nothing else it’d shut up the ‘Typical bloody Scotland not giving players a chance man, he’d have 90 caps if he was Spanish’ bores, who just conveniently ignore the times we’ve thrown youngsters in recently.
I’d like to see young up and coming starlet Ryan Gauld in the squad, just to get a look at him. One for the future imo.
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Winning the fucker
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Being in my late 20s I’ve spent most of my life thinking I’d never see us at tournaments and that we were essentially locked out of the party - so this is a bit special. Another major tournament. Fucking hell man
Although we’re better, and have to see ourselves as better than the ‘just happy to be there’ mindset now. Hope we have a right good go at whatever group we end up in.
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Just now, Sortmeout said:
The bbc updates on this game with the forced slang and Scottish words built in is cringe inducing. Probably written by a Glasgow uni type who doesn’t even naturally speak that way.
Haaland ya pure heid the baw bam pot!!! Score a goal or awa’ n bile yer heid n haud yer weeesht!!
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You forget how boring International football can be when you don’t have an emotional attachment to it. This has been murder.
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1 minute ago, Jacky1990 said:
A draw is better for us....
I’d far rather hope for a Norway equaliser with qualification already in the bag than nervously wait the game out
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Can Michael Stewart just shut up for a bit. He’s making this more confusing.
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The atmosphere is bizarre for such a crucial game. Have they just given up? Off tube/remote commentary never helps mind. So flat.
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Just now, 2426255 said:
He's always in and about the keeper in most of our games. Presumably it's to block and interfere with the Keeper to stop him coming for the ball.
Which you never get away with these days. At least if you’re doing it make it seem like you’re going for a header or something.
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One thing that’s winding me up is that there was absolutely no reason for Hendry to go near the keeper. Totally needless.
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7 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
Basically paraphrasing from my tweets I made at the time and then after the game, here's my overall view of the decision.As soon as ref went over to the screen, the first thing they showed him was the freeze-frame of Hendry being in an offside position when McTominay hit the free-kick to me. As soon as I saw that, my thought was that the check must have been for offside, and the ref was being brought over because it was a subjective call - ie interfering with an opponent. During the review, on at least one occasion they went back to that exact freeze-frame, and to me that absolutely confirmed that they were looking at whether it was offside.
The hand signal at the time was quite ambiguous, but that's not really unusual - for example in the Old Firm game earlier this season, the ref disallowed a Rangers goal (for a foul), and when he pointed for the free-kick quite a few Rangers fans cheered because they thought he had given the goal. The crucial thing in both cases though, is that the referee made the TV signal first - this is something they only do if they are overturning the original decision. So he absolutely 100% did not give a goal, despite someone in the thread claiming he did.
In terms of the actual hand signal for giving the foul, I do think he's just confused himself a bit and basically gone into autopilot. Refs signal for stuff all the time during games, and you do tend to go into autopilot a wee bit, the brain gives the decision and the body just knows to point. These refs will make loads of VAR decisions, but the vast majority of the time when they actually go to a monitor it is to look for a foul for a direct free-kick. Therefore I do think it's second nature to point for a free-kick in that situation. Normally when they're giving an offside , they are in a different scenario, since they're normally not at the screen, but rather standing on the spot of the foul waiting for the decision to be given in their ear.
He's under a lot of pressure making the decision, it's a big call, and once you've lifted that pressure by actually making a decision there can definitely be a tendency to relax a bit and for the brain to switch off. If that is what happened, it's still a f**k-up, but hardly unprecedented, refs point the wrong way or similar fairly regularly. What we didn't actually see was whether he signalled for an indirect free-kick when he whistled for the free-kick to actually be taken - typically your hand would stay in the air when it was being taken, until the point where another player makes contact.
All the stuff on the screens, both inside the stadium and on the broadcast, plus what has been told to the commentators will all come from a single source, which will be some sort of VAR control room. However, this is a communication tool, not an official decision or anything of the sort. Just in the same way that they sometimes flash up the wrong player as being booked, or indeed even miss a card, they are just putting out what they see. The referee isn't formally lodging paperwork with them in real-time, they're just acting on what they see and hear from him as part of his standard decision making process.
On the decision itself, I think it is probably technically correct. Hendry is in an offside position, and by challenging the goalkeeper and indeed moving into his line of vision, he is guilty of "interfering with an opponent". It's annoying because it's definitely going to be a goal regardless, but ultimately that's not what's being judged. It is absolutely an example of VAR going far beyond what it was initially sold as being introduced for though. That's not some massive egregious error, it's not a decision that players on the field were screaming out for as some major injustice. Had it been communicated properly and it was clear it was an offside from the first moment, I don't think there'd be anything like the same anger though.
I don’t really get the leniency with the hand signal stuff to be honest. ‘Ach he’s just gotten mixed up’ isn’t acceptable for a ref at the top level. That’s a major f**k up in those circumstances and shouldn’t be happening, regardless of the actual decision.
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I’m fucking scunnered after that. Never gets easier, does it?
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Georgia vs Scotland 16th Nov '23
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It’s something I never really understand. Obviously they have to hit it ridiculously hard to score at that level but I never get how a professional footballer can blaze one miles over the bar. Surely they should all be able to hit the target with their eyes closed even at full power with little time.