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    Banning Children

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    Why would anyone want to take their children to a pub? Why would anyone want to spend time in a pub with children? If the family is out for a meal, then Fairy Nuff (assuming the children are well behaved*) but if it's just drinking...I don't get it.

    * This also applies to dogs, with the meal/drinking bit reversed.

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    Happy St. Patrick's Day

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    4 hours ago, The Golden God said:

    The amount of people I’ve seen today with Union Jacks and England flags in their name absolutely furious at people celebrating St Patrick’s Day is incredible. Like someone said above, non religious people celebrate Christmas and Easter, it’s an excuse to get drunk, can’t turn that down. 

    Here in the Yooessuvvay, many of the same people who have no problem dressing in Kelly Green, exaggerating their tenuous ancestral links to the Emerald Isle and drinking shitey beer dyed green every year, also get livid at the very idea of anyone celebrating Cinco de Mayo (Mexico's victory over the Second French Empire at the Battle of Puebla in 1862). "That's not our culture!"

    It takes a special breed of miseryguts to get angry at people enjoying themselves.

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    Things you want to share with P&B

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    On 14/01/2024 at 02:24, throbber said:

    Nice pub for sale in Glasgow city centre

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/86659578#/?channel=COM_BUY

     

    On 14/01/2024 at 05:39, Derry Alli said:

    That seems an incredibly high priced valuation. 

     

    On 14/01/2024 at 06:58, MazzyStar said:

    You’ll make that back in a couple of months. 

     

    On 14/01/2024 at 08:30, throbber said:

    I don’t think there’s much money in pubs - also if it was that profitable a business the family wouldn’t be selling after 40 years 

    How many active users are there on P&B these days? We could all chip in a few quid and make it our official clubhouse. Handy for all central belt games, especially those in Glasgow and the surrounding environs. Given the number of alcoholics on the site, we'll never be short of customers and there are enough teetotalers here to set up a Designated Driver rota. Get in a decent pie vendor, negotiate a deal with Tennents and install a kettle for the Bovril and we'll be raking it in.

    @Shandon Par could decorate the place, @throbber to do a tasteful mural and give @RH33 a stool near the door to entice the passing trade.

    I think we could be onto something here.

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    Things you want to share with P&B

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    I have a long, vicious, vertical scar on my face from a knife fight in a waterfront bar in Marseille just after the war. I'd been running guns through Algiers and...

    Ach, I slipped on the ice and the dug leapt in for the kill, catching me under the eye with a toenail. Once I'd washed my physog you could hardly notice it and it's almost completely invisible this morning.

    Made me look dead fierce for a couple of hours though.

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    Do you say "bless you" when someone sneezes?

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    4 hours ago, BigBo10 said:

    I was always told it goes back to the Middle Ages and a religious person such as a monk or priest said bless you to people who sneezed because it was believed that was your soul trying to leave your body and a bless you absolved you so it stayed. 

    My soul is shrunken, blackened husk of a thing now. It can leave if it wants. Let it make its own way in the world. 

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    Do you say "bless you" when someone sneezes?

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    44 minutes ago, velo army said:

    I'm fairly sure it's a hangover from the black death, which started out as cold symptoms. The "bless you" is people giving others the last rites. 

    It's also where the nursery rhyme "Ring-a-ring-a-roses", referenced by @Venti, upthread, comes from. A sneeze was apparently the first sign of the bubonic plague (as I like to tell other people when they sneeze) and if the sneezer was famous. a good indicator to update your Dead Pool spreadsheet. A ring of roses round the neck or a pocket full of posies was supposed to ward off the dreaded lurgi. "We all fall down" is pretty self-explanatory.

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    The Christian Theology Education Thread

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    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    I’m not a Christian leader or theologian, but I actually can think of some answers.  Not that I have to, as an atheist has a burden of proof that they never even try to prove IMO.

    Wrong. Atheists do not have one ounce of a burden of proof. Theologists are the ones making nonsensical claims and it's up to them to provide evidence. Something which despite millennia of opportunity, none have been able to do.

    If I tell you there are pixies living at the bottom of my garden, neither you nor anyone else has a "burden of proof" to show that there aren't. If I then start committing atrocities because "the pixies told me to" then you and everyone else has a moral obligation to stop me. 

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    Firstly, a way out could simply be an answer to prayer for it to stop.

    Your omnipotent, infallible, all loving god who has a plan for all of us will, through no fault of your own, let you suffer a life of misery, agonising pain and terror, but will change his mind and stop it if you simply ask? Are you seriously claiming that people in concentration camps, prisoners in torture chambers, children being sexually abused could've seen an end to their torment if only they'd prayed? You really think none of them did that? The patients in the Gazan hospitals, waiting for the bombs to drop? None of them prayed? Just f**k off.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    Or (and I’m not trying to be funny here) it could be assurance of a one way ticket to heaven, with faith alone, and grace alone and with Christ alone.  This is undoubtedly the best way out IMO.

    Don't feel bad about having cancer; things will be better once you're dead. Unless of course, you ate meat on a Friday before 1984. Make sure you remember to love Jesus through every minute of your agony until then though. This may be the "best way out" in your opinion but personally, I believe an omnipotent being should be able to come up with something better.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    To answer your question about natural disasters, diseases, gang-rape and cancer.. I promise I’m not being flippant, but I genuinely don’t know.  I also struggle with the issue of extreme suffering.

    What is it you struggle with? Either god can't stop it, in which case he isn't omnipotent, or he chooses not to stop it in which case he's evil. Either way he is unworthy of simple respect, never mind worship and adoration.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    In a general sense though, I think of people being close to death or near death in Gaza, on both sides and think ‘where’s God?’.  If God stopped every war though, think of the consequences?  It’s easy for us to moralise about strategies, but folk are actually living in here over there.  I

    The consequences of no war? Millions of innocent people no longer being slaughtered for the benefit of the few? Are you saying that would be bad? Seriously? And if it's easy for us to moralise about strategies, think how much easier it would be for an omnipotent, infallible being to do so. For example, he could consider punishing the people responsible for the crimes and not the innocents. And do it while they're alive so other potential tyrants can see it happen and learn from it. That might be one way a loving deity could handle things.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    I think of Josef Fritzl’s daughter being raped loads of times, every day for years, or these tales you hear of parents physically abusing their baby/toddler children.. it’s horrendous.  In my childhood I saw my mother (now dead) in horrendous pain and I wondered the same thing.

    And yet you still haven't reached the obvious conclusion?

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    I’m not trying to speak for her as to be honest I could never lace her boots.. she was a great woman!  She suffered abuse from my dad though, and both of them used to claim to be Christians!  On one hand my dad would tell me to treat women well because that’s what God wanted, yet he would demoralise my mum to f**k.  They were your stereotype pick and choose ‘ChrIstians’ that give us a bad name.

    All Christians pick and choose. It would be impossible to follow the tenets otherwise. Do you follow every instruction given in the bible? Or just the ones you like?

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    One thing that always humbles me is that my mum always believed in God and my mum taught me to pray and gave examples of her prayers being answered.

    Your poor mother lived a life of misery and pain but didn't seek help because she'd been brainwashed into thinking this was god's plan for her. And that even to question this idea was itself a sin. The ultimate in mind-fuckery. And no, her prayers were never answered. Sometimes things she wanted to happen, happened. Nothing more, nothing less. Unless you're admitting that, per your claim above, the abuse would've stopped if she had only prayed for that to happen.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    Her point was ‘I’d rather be me dying of a brain injury than Jesus having nails hammered through his wrists’

    It’s hard to argue with that.

    Well yes, hard to argue with because it's inane. What does one have to do with the other? I'd rather die in a car crash than have onchocerca  volvulus living in my eyeballs after being bitten by a black fly, as some people do. But frankly, I'd prefer neither.

    8 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    I try to live it out in my life but acknowledge that I will never be perfect.  One thing I never do though, is tell others how to live their lives. For me my Christian faith is a personal thing, although I will never hide it either.

    Nobody is expecting you to be perfect. It's not unreasonable though, to expect higher standards of an omnipotent being. Your favourite falls well short. While you yourself may not tell others how to live their lives, you enthusiastically support organisations that do. And you yell "BIGOT!!" at anyone who calls you out on it.

    Don't try to claim the moral high ground here.

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    The Christian Theology Education Thread

    in The General Nonsense Forum

    Posted · Edited by Shotgun

    9 hours ago, CarrbridgeSaintee said:

    E: Made it possible, but doesn't cause it directly.  Also provides a way out.

    When children are starving in a famine stricken land, what is their “way out”?

    When a patient is dying in a hospital being targeted for destruction by people who view them as less than human because they worship god in a different way, what is their “way out”?

    When someone is being eaten alive by cancer, has lost their loved ones in a natural disaster, or is in the process of being gang-raped, what is their “way out”?

     

    ETA: What are the causes of natural disasters and diseases if not god?

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    Great Posts

    in The General Nonsense Forum

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    Others have already called it out but @eddiemunster's tale of his night with Quasimodo's sister will always be a personal favourite for me.

    Also, @throbber's Dad calling out "We're upstairs!" during the Stephen Hawking biopic.

    And let's not forget "You weren't there man" from the kid who witnessed the Aberdeen fan catching on fire while dressed as a sheep.

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