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You didn’t see our forward options in midweek did you?!!!

Aye drums are pish. Scotland’s equivalent of vuvuzelas. Didn’t mind them at first as I thought they were there to beat the rhythm for thousands of Saints fans singing along in harmony. Instead the drummers now think they’re the star of the show. When it’s quiet their way of improving the atmosphere is to manically beat f**k out the thing as hard and loud as they can and completely drown out the half dozen folk singing along. Singing at football is great. Drums and vuvuzelas are shite.

Have to say I rate Phillips. He is a good presence in centre midfield, covers a lot of ground and is good at winning the ball back. He can be careless with his passing at times, but for the most part I think he opens up the game for others to drive forward with the ball. Smith I haven’t thought a great deal of other then occasional moments, but I thought he was good in the second half last night. Was far more positive and looked eager to be involved. I noticed last night we rarely played it out from the back. Unsure if it was a tactical thing against Aberdeen, or whether it was on the back of how much we put ourselves under pressure doing it v Airdrie. There were times I thought a throw from Mitov to either wing back was on but they weren’t even looking for it so had obviously been told beforehand we weren’t playing out from the keeper. I do think we were much improved after HT. We’d been the usual waiting to see what happens team in a dull first half, but we came out and took the game to aberdeen. We deserved to take the lead when Carey scored the var goal. The wing backs actually put a few decent balls into the box, with a fit Clark in there you feed he’d relish that service. Our equaliser saw both wing backs in and around the opposition box which is a rarity. Far from anything outstanding, but there were at least signs we’d tried to fix a few issues. Would love to see us start the match v Motherwell on the front foot.

Saints deserved at least the point tonight. Horrendous, dull first half from both sides but I could genuinely say I almost enjoyed that second half from us. It was far from anything to write home about in the grand scheme of things, but we came out and actually looked like we wanted to win the game. The wing backs played higher up the pitch and got involved in an attacking sense. I criticised Smith at HT but he was good in the second half, driving forward and being positive on the ball. Phillips was head and shoulders above everyone on the park. We should take the money we save on Crawford, Macpherson, May and Considine leaving in the summer and offer the lot to Dan for a new deal. As for VAR? Ruined football as a spectator event. You just haven’t a clue what’s going on and are just meant to pay your money and accept it. How on earth anyone thinks it’s been a positive for the sport is beyond me.

We’ve had a couple of tame efforts wide of goal, no shots on target and one corner this half. But far from the worst I’ve seen us play this season sadly enough. Phillips is a big player for us. Somehow tricking him into signing a new deal seems like a big deal for our progress next season. Two poor sides. 0-0 likely. A goal wins it either way. Probably alone in this but I think Smoth flatters to deceive and doesn’t offer a great deal.

Midfield looks fairly strong. Upfront doesn’t. Tonight and Saturday feel huge in terms of whether we get dragged into a relegation battle or push on to a comfortable mid table spot.

Please come back on here at 10pm to discuss further..

Aye spare a thought for those poor drug dealers of this world, out there just trying to make an honest days crust.

I think Dundee are dark horses for the play-off place. They’re probably the team who least deserve to be in the bottom six based on their first half of the season performances. But they’ve lost a load of points from winning positions and that could come back to bite. They’ve been head and shoulders above us this season, but only 3 points better off when they should be out of sight. Seen it a few times in the past where newly promoted teams have a great start then fade as teams work them out, and losing Beck won’t help. There should still be enough shitshows around out of Saints, Livi, County and Motherwell to keep Dundee out the bottom two, but they are giving off strong “too good to go down” vibes.

This is what we’ve regressed to; a philosophy of trying to create chances and score goals needs binned? Really? It doesn’t have to be silky football to be exciting and entertaining. I’ll happily watch us shitfest if we’re winning and challenging for trophies again. But we’re not. Our negative ‘safe’ football has seen us fight relegation for the third season in a row, and pumped in just about every cup match we’ve played, mostly against lower league teams. Because they’re generally positive and try to score whilst we fanny about waiting to see what’s going to happen. Nobody’s talking about tiki taka football. But once (if) we’re clear of relegation, I don’t personally want to see us continue with this nothing football where we start trying to score once the opposition goes in front. We’ve had 2.5 years of it. Against about 60% of the teams in this league, and every cup match against lower league teams, there’s no reason at all why we shouldn’t be imposing ourselves and trying to take the game to them. We barely manage a couple of shots at goal per game, and that’s if we’re lucky. We sit with 5 defenders every match thinking if we don’t concede we won’t lose, instead of if we score we might win. It started out more positive under Levein but it’s fizzled away since.

You know you’d get sensible safe leadership, but I’m not sure how much more entertainment there’d be. Not watched a lot of Kilmarnock this season so maybe I’m wrong, but McInnes’s sides are generally efficient over exciting. But yes, would definitely be in a better position than we are now.

Very envious of Kilmarnock’s signing strategy the past 12 months.

He talks some shite though. When Callum Hendry and Shaun Rooney both ran through on goal and chipped the ball over the ICT keeper he described the goals as “panenkas”. For that alone he should be banned from covering football.

Seems a bit wild they haven’t binned this yet with the weather warnings in place. Cant be expecting Dundee fans to travel through when you’re telling people not to travel unless it’s essential. 50mph gusts isn’t going to lend itself to a great spectacle anyway! The problem is there seems to be a severe weather warning every week just now, and a mad congested fixture schedule coming up…

I’ve also been guilty of all that getting caught up in thinking about top six being possible after a couple of decent results, based mostly around how shite the teams from about 4th down in this league are. But the fact that we don’t create chances and don’t score goals weighs heavily against us. Unless there’s a fundamental change in approach I can’t see it. I’m not convinced we’re good enough either. I think most of the managers in the top league in Scotland have convinced themselves the only way to do well is to be negative and grind out 1-0’s. As much as I don’t like Airdrie, it’s refreshing to see a team doing well trying to play attacking exciting football.

I agree with VB here. Stupid thing to post on social media, but the daily record should be shut down for that. It basically reads “guy who tweeted provoked this response, what else were the airdrie fuckwits meant to do?”. By all means criticise him for his tweet, but surely to f**k the crux of that should be ‘disgraceful scenes’ etc all about the idiots throwing bottles into a pub full of normal folk and families.

They would be good ties to pick, and Caley Thistle v Hibs as well might be an interesting one.

You’re still bitter Nobody remembers that we pumped you out of both competitions, let it go.

Na, disagree on that one. Everyone should go out of their way to call it that. We had our own brand the ‘Premier League’ but let the English league take it. We then had the SPL which was a great identity. You think of all the leagues in Europe you can name and they have a clear brand identity; the Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga, Superliga, Eredivisie etc that they stick with. We should have kept the SPL title when the SPFL came into being in 2013. I can’t help noticing that the league down south is increasingly referring to itself as the EPL these days. The fact that loads of supporters still refer to it as the SPL shows how strong a brand name it was.

We were talking about that, would be the sensible thing to do. It happened for our late December game v Hibs when we both had a feee Saturday in the middle of the month, so it is obviously possible. Just checked and there’s no championship games on that date so no clash with a Utd home game to affect it.

Just noticed this thread and seen @Dundee-FC92 posted last and thought ‘how fitting’. The biggest attention seeking gimp with dreadful patter on the entire thread. Joe Hart is a bit of a nob as well.

Aye ordinary supporters with kids getting bottles thrown at them is hilarious mate isn’t it.

Cheers, what was the attendance? Not having a go but I thought there would have been a bigger home support. Was that about typical home support size? Airdrie have been going well and must have fancied their chances beforehand.

I’m not sticking up for Levein, jury’s still out on him for me, and I think he maybe gets away with more because he’s a good talker and handles the media well. But results have definitely improved under him since Maclean left. And given the squad he has inherited, and lumbered with in many individual cases, I don’t think it’s fair to write him off until he’s had this summer window when he can move on a lot of shite and put his own mark on the squad. In terms of how we set up, yes I agree, there’s very little attacking flair or creativity and we’re still a turgid dull team to watch, set up not to lose goals rather than take the game to the opposition.