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  1. General Politics Thread

    Aye. That and the Anthony C Pick constitutional legal expert farce. Politics forum gold I miss auld Half Brick.
  2. Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

    Still cannae believe this is the same JRM that tramped the green fields of Macedonia, Auchmuty and Kinglassie at the 1992 general election. With his nanny helping him I think he got aboot 10 votes for the tories In fairness he was up 9 votes from the previous tory candidate. Probably some auld dears felt sorry for him
  3. When will indyref2 happen?

    Mothers pride, toasted oer the open fire, wi a big slab a butter. Bliss.
  4. Sausages and mash....mibbes some pea's wae it....nice.
  5. General Politics Thread

    It would be a mistake for the SNP itself to move to the right. Far better it maintains its left social democratic stance. There does need to be greater input from the right with regards to the independence movement. I would not want a whole new party competing for the independnece vote, however groups like business for Scotland could presumably expand and be more vocal.
  6. Question Time

    You lost it at the start wi the "dave starkey" bit. Him of the Caledonian hitler...pishy little country etc shite. Wtf does he know. [email protected] the replacement. He just wants more air time, publicity and appearance money for him and his pals. I agree wi the just bin it idea tho. Its stale and turgid.
  7. General Politics Thread

    The term "champagne socialists" fits many of these types just fine.
  8. General Politics Thread

    Lol...a wee bit of auld style new labour spin and deflection. Cannae help yersels eh. Nothing like using specifics to hide a general trend. The labour vote collapsed in 2015 and barely recovered in 2017. The breakdown shows the majority of these labour votes went to the SNP in 2015. However the vote that switched from labour between 2015 and 2017 went majority Tory. Obviously the Tory 2017 revival just happened to be coincidental.
  9. General Politics Thread

    And if all the champagne socialist type labour voters in those constituencies had not switched to their unionist blue brethern we may not have had the misfortune of electing 13 tories. Anyway thats splitting hairs. Scottish votes have had influence "in three.... possibly four" general elections out of 18 since 1945. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11552991/The-general-elections-where-Scotland-decided-who-ran-the-UK.html All them years voting well trying to keep the lowlands red. Mostly wasted votes am afraid.
  10. General Politics Thread

    Penny finally dropping? That was exactly the point I was making. We are at the mercy of an ever increasing right wing isolationist electorate. People in Scotland that vote labour continue to enable this. We are ignored by the tories. Why should they care, they don't need Scottish votes. Labour do need Scottish votes.....but at best we have always been an afterthought to any elected labour government. That ain't gonna change under Corbyn. He is as ignorant of Scotland and Scottish affairs as any labour leader ever has been. So u were right. Labour are not as bad as the tories. But they are only a bit better. Well f#ck that. Its not good enough any more. Yes, you can list all the historical stuff that labour achieved, but any meaningful change was over half a century ago. That was a different party in different times. The last labour lot were not that different from the Tories. They just cost the country a shit load more money. Also you are either being niave or maybe just a bit forgetful, if you don't think labour introduced devolution because of the threat of independence. Are you forgetting the senior labour figures who rejoiced in how it would kill off independence. Like I said earlier, it only took them 100 years to introduce it. Indeed many in the party still hated the idea and had to be dragged along with it. Suppose from a labour party survival point of view they were correct right enough. Dewar also sneaked through the labour sea grab at the same time as the devolution settlement. Why did that happen? Still never heard a convincing argument from anyone in the party.
  11. General Politics Thread

    Lol...not introducing the poll tax...wtf kind of achievement is that to claim???? And as for introducing devolution....yes they did....but only to attempt to head off the rising calls for independence. Oh...and it only took over100 years from first promised to actual delivery. Forgive some of us for no longer swallowing labours shite. Nonsense....its all about the bigger picture. True change that is relevant, meaningful and offers specific benefit for the Scottish people...can only be achieved in a Scotland with full control of its own destiny. Only then will we have the economic levers to target problems and agendas specific to Scotland. That aim is in no way going to benefit by the election of a labour government at Westminster. Ofcourse, as you say, such a labour govt is entirely hypothetical. Corbyn is scraping it against possibly the most shambolic tory party ever. Come election time and his entirely predictable battering by the msm, he will just not be electable across the shires where it counts.
  12. General Politics Thread

    "They only care about us when they need something" That single phrase sums up the labour parties relationship with Scotland. Sad that some are falling for the same old pish again. Anyone in Scotland that thinks a labour governments attitude to us will be markedly different to the tories is deluding themselves. Once they have our votes and seats in the bag, we will be patronised and ignored...just as we always were.
  13. Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

    Yeh...the auld just vote labour one more time, this time they will get in........argument. Thankfully it appears most Scots have finally sussed this.
  14. When will indyref2 happen?

    Its a movie. A good one. A work of fiction based on a true story. It would appear one of its greatest legacies is how twenty odd years later, it still gets britnats in a right tizz.
  15. Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

    I agree that all this needs ironed out prior to the start of the next referendum campaign. The more time business, the markets and the general population have to get used to a properly thought out plan, the better all round. It is a tactical error I feel on the part of the SNP to continue using phrases like "keep the pound." and "its our pound too." You would think they would have learnt something from indyref1. Its stupid. It allows unionists to continually throw bombs of doubt and dissent, and thus bamboozle the cranially challenged and auld duffers. In contrast britnats trying to belittle a Scottish currency, would be more likely in the longer term to annoy Scottish voters. We can call it whatever....pound, dollar, Scotmark......we just need to get the idea planted and firm plan published allowing time to get used to the idea. Of course having our own currency from day one, need not negate the softly softly approach. I believe it was Buddhist Monk that suggested it, but the transition can be gradual and contain a period of currency pairing. So in effect we would be sharing the pound short term but just negating any britnat spin. Such short term pairing would work as the initial stabilty would be in Scottish and rUK interests.