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2 hours ago, printer said:
You new to P&B, m8?
Nope, been here quite a while now and I'd say it's still about the daftest thing I've heard suggested.
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9 minutes ago, Slipmat said:
100% agree with you here, it's a real indicator of how desperate we are getting, but - and please correct me if I'm wrong - was JT not commercial manager when he took temporary charge after Skelton walked?
Yes. That didn't end too well for JT but at least he had plenty of experience on the playing side over a good length of time, and was Club captain for a good while too so wasn't exactly the same scenario as Dan.
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18 minutes ago, virginton said:
Except that in any other business, it would be a dereliction of their duties as a Board to not prioritise the financial implications of a decision. If the money isn't there to do it, it's not there.
Exactly the problem. The fans are well aware that money is tight, and is probably the only reason he's not been punted already. It's a bit Catch 22, if we pay him off , and hopefuly his sidekick too, it costs money, if we don't and risk going down it could theoretically cost a lot more in the long run. The Board have to decide, and decide fast, which option to take, times running out.
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3 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
We've been served up so much shite over the past few years that folk are actually losing their minds as a result. The discussion is about giving our COMMERCIAL MANAGER the role of first team Manager?! Take a step back and think about that
Dan is probably the best thing about the club just now. Let's just keep him where he is, doing brilliantly.
He's certainly about the only one there who seems competent in what he's doing. Pardon my ignorance but has he actually got any coaching or footballing background, apart from running the reserves.
1 minute ago, bridge of allan bairn said:Appreciate this isn't my club but I tend to agree with this viewpoint and have for some time.
There must be someone on the existing payroll that at very least couldn't do any worse and is very likely to do better. Look at Alloa. Similar ish situation (although I think they might actually have been doing better than Queens?) Andy Graham replaced Brian Rice and their results and atmosphere around the club and fanbase has been terrific ever since, looking like a comfortable play off position now.
Bartley has been a bombscare since very very early on. The post match interviews tell you all you need to know, he's not seeing games like pretty much everyone else (or is and isn't wanting to call it as it is), I'd bet his players don't respect him, why would you, calling them out every week and pretty much treating us all like idiots with his b*llshit summaries of what happened.
Appreciate the contract and money is a hurdle, but staying as is is worse IMO. As a couple of the guys have said here put him on gardening leave and get someone on the existing payroll to take over, there must be a coach or player that is respected enough. The record Bartley has for a full time team in the 3rd tier is awful - pretty much averaging 1 point per game and if Stirling get as much as a point tonight, sitting one place above the relegation play offs.
The problem is we don't really have anyone on the existing (small) coaching staff I would trust in the interim, assistant Grant Murray should follow Bartley out the door. Obviously maybe senior players could be considered but I'm not really sure which ones would or could take over. Paul McKay likes to stand and point and tell others what to do so would probably jump at it. The notion of giving it to our Commercial Manager because he does a lot behind the scenes is just too wild.
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19 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:
As daft as keeping the current Manager in post?
The current Manager shouldn't still be in the position but that doesn't mean Dan Armsstrong should be the man to try and save us. He does sterling work for the club without doubt but tbh I've no idea of his footballing or coaching credentials.
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13 minutes ago, Homer Thompson said:
Well, they dont call him the Ginger Mourinho for nothing
How much do they pay him then to call him the Ginger Mourinho.
As for the suggestion of giving Dan the job, about the daftest thing I've heard. For a start, the last time we promoted the Reserve Manager it didn't end very well results wise as I recall.
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Just a passing thought I had yesterday but what kind of compo Clyde would be entitled to, or want, if we could get McCall ( and Scally) in asap rather than wait till summer or whenever, assuming he's interested in coming here of course. Obviously there's the cost of payoff for Bartley and Murray to consider first but I'd rather try get someone in to try and save what's left of this season, and give a head start with preps for next season , whichever division we're in. Maybe a bit pie in sky thinking on my part but it's really getting desperate now and big decisions (and money being spent) are needed. Of course the Board may be reluctant to open the purse until they know what division we'll be in next season.
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17 minutes ago, VillaKnollBoy said:
Not normally one for crowd wankfest's, but I counted 17 of us.
12 of you must have been at the toilet or pie stall when bod counted. At least 17 people went home happy.
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Just now, Bairn in Exile said:
b*****d! nice one mate, got me. An editing I must go!
Sadly, unless there's a change soon, the way things are going then typing League 2 might not be an error for Queens fans in the near future.
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22 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said:
What you might want to consider is that you have been in league 2 for only two seasons and in that time your attendances have what, halved? We have been languishing in league 2 for five seasons and our attendances in all that time have held up remarkably well, even during the horrible Holt / Sheerin / Rennie seasons and this season have actually increased, for obvious reasons.
With regards to the 2 recent games against Hamilton Accies, at the away game they had 1,813 home fans and we had 2,008 away fans. At the home game we had 5,455 home fans and they had 301 away fans.
Sure, we like to crowdwank, that's our thang, but we are also loyal as f*ck.
Loyal, but apparently ignorant of what division you are actually playing in.
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3 hours ago, Otis Blue said:
You might need Google translate, tbf ...
Stephen Craigen usually is the co- commentator pundit so you could be right.
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2 hours ago, Greenacres said:
It seems a few players arrived late for the Edinburgh game all hit with fines.
That again just sums up our season players can't even be bothered to turn up on time.
Do players want to play for Marvin i am not sure they do .
Report I read says "more than one" player turned up late, hardly "a few" as you claim, unless you know different. It does bring into question though this improved professional attitude that Marvin was supposedly going to instil in the players.
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56 minutes ago, HighlandQueen said:
Would be interesting to know if this is true or not. No way of knowing. They don’t seem to be busting a gut for him at the moment judging from Saturday’s dont give a toss attitude from most of the players. Disappointing really as you would have thought they would give their all for another contract or at least for the fans
I doubt very much if payers really bother about giving their all for the sake of fans nowadays, obviously they do all the badge kissing, etc when things are going well, but basically it's just a job they're doing. It was probably different back in the good old days when players stayed with a club for several years and built up a connection to the Club and fans, instead of getting just 1 or 2 year deals like now. Having said that I would be gobsmacked if any player went out with the mindset of deliberately not giving their all just because they don't like playing for the Manager.
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4 minutes ago, HighlandQueen said:
Looked like a good appointment but as was said in hindsight it’s been a disaster. But damned if you do damned if you don’t. Long time since we were worried he would go to Hibs!
I doubt if many of us were truly worried, I don't think it was an entirely serious notion at the time that he would get the Hibs gig.
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5 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:
Harping back to our displays against Motherwell and Queens Park in the League Cup really grates as well. We played well against Motherwell but these early season matches are notorious for producing shocks down to the fact that players are using them in many cases as glorified friendlies. As I recall we blew a great chance to qualify by failing miserably to beat East Fife at home - a performance which is much more in keeping with what we see week after week.
I honestly think the time has come for an immediate parting of the ways.We surely can’t contemplate going into next season with Bartley at the helm. As you rightly say it wouldn’t take much of a turnaround for Annan to get within striking distance of us - a close head to head for survival doesn’t bear thinking about.
Even the Dundee United game where we were being pounded for long spells, and luckily had Harry Stone in great form, we at least showed a bit of fighting spirit that seems sadly lacking in most league games.
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Just now, Monkey Tennis said:
To give a grateful nation the chance to glimpse our scintillating brand of football of course.
I can't see the national grid coping with the demand, as millions of kettles are simultaneously switched on at half-time.
The number of tellys being switched off will balance it out.
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10 minutes ago, StuartA said:
Again though - in the absence of a sugar daddy, if your current administration is failing, isn't the only option for fans to tool-up and get involved? It doesn't have to be a full-on takeover, but current owners have responsibility for the decline so surely have to open the door.
We don't have "owners" as such, we have a 3 man Board that is answerable to shareholders. There is obviously an opportunity each AGM for someone else to take over but there never seems to be much, if any, interest in anyone coming forward to do so.
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I would much rather have a Board of Directors in place, accountable to shareholders (and ordinary fans) , than an outright owner who can use the Club as a plaything and pull out if things go tits up. The problem is the majority shareholders seem quite happy with the present Board and the minor shareholders aren't strong enough to bring about change. A fans rep on the Board would be good but was pretty much shot down at previous AGMs I believe. I know the present Board are also fans but from the outside it seems to be a 3 man clique with no place for an independent voice.
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7 minutes ago, the_palmy_pie said:
No local company is going to spend £80,000 ( what the draw usually makes ) a season to sponsor Queens ffs. The shirt draw is a great idea and very successful.
Did it not attract a record number of entries last season or this? Businesses and individuals must think it's wothwhile even in the current financial climate. If so, well done to those that participated and to the Club's Commercial Dep't.
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As has already been covered, a better performance today, not so much tippy-tappying about at the back and at least making the opposition keeper work. Can't remember Botterrill having a save to make an defence looked fairly solid. Luckily we didn't fall to the usual late sucker punch. Mumbongo did well when he came on, at least gave the Kelty defence something to worry about and unlucky with a shot off the post, I won't get too carried about him yet though. I don't like criticising Refs but that one today doesn't help himself, how he worked out some of those early bookings is a mystery. Someone must have had a word with him at half time 'cos he calmed down a bit. Anyway clean sheet and a point away from home against ( another) bogey team not to be sniffed at even if Kelty weren't at their best.
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As admirable as this fans actions are with the clean up its really only papering over some very large cracks. For instance a couple of the the outer doors at the turnstiles at Portland Drive have been smashed, if as seems to currently be the case, we're only using 2 turnstiles why not brick up the unused ones, I'm sure the Charman can spare a brickie and labourer for a day or two. And I don't mean just throwing up some concrete blocks but a proper sympathetic repair that doesn't stick out like a sair thumb and look worse than the smashed doors. That's just one instance that I notice when attending but there must be many more. As I say, the efforts of this person, and other volunteers, is admirable, but some things need a bit of professional work done. I can kind if sympathise with the Board in a way, do you spend money tarting up a stadium when you can't guarantee which trajectory the club is heading, and which may never again see substantial crowds on regular basis. It wouldn't be so bad if the team was doing well, you might excuse a run down stadium a wee bit, but we've got the worst of both worlds, a poor team playing in a decaying stadium.
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11 hours ago, bod said:
That's grim reading. Pity no one had the insight to insert a clause whereby we could relieve our manager of his duties if results and performances where not up to expectations.
And how many applicants would you get for the job if that was In the contract? Every Club in the land would surely have that clause in if it was feasible or legal. It would still probably involve a pay-off fee anyway.
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6 hours ago, Ian Mcleod said:
No of course teams are going to have chances but we were nowhere near good enough in the first half yesterday apart from us hitting the bar I can't remember us creating anything else in that first half. QOTS would have been ahead of it wasn't for Jamie making a couple of good saves and Fergus being outstanding once again. Second half was much better and we deserved the 3 points in the end.
Agreed a deserved win overall but Connelly missed a couple of chances first half when he skied the ball over when well placed. We were ok for about the first 10 minutes of the game then it was basically trying to hit on the break. Reilly and Cochrane coming on second half gave us another (brief) decent spell but at times it was like a training game for Hamilton.
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27 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Yes, I totally agree.
That's what I was getting at when I referred to our boredom thresholds.
Now, I think we all get it with football. When you choose to go to a football match you know fine well that it might be a poor game, and that your preferred time might play badly and piss you off. It's not like going to a gig by a band or a comic you like, where you can be pretty confident you'll enjoy yourself.
We get it that with football it's different. It's the uncertainty that's attractive. The lousy bits help make the good times meaningful. When you resist the juvenile appeal of the OF, you know what you're signing up to, and that at times, you'll wonder why you bother.
Having said all that though, there's a reasonable expectation that it'll sometimes be exciting, engaging, even beautiful on the odd occasion. Our difficulty right now is that it's almost never any of these things.
I'm less committed than many on here, confining my attendance pretty much to home games. I was at St Mirren the other week and might go to Annan soon, having been away on holiday in October, but I don't travel much. Maybe if I'd gone to Montrose, or even to Cove last week, I'd see it a bit differently, but the reality is that I virtually don't ever enjoy going to Queens games now. Genuine 'out of your seat' moments are just so bloody rare.
I know I'm not alone in feeling this way. As others have noted, however, I don't think such feeling is remotely factored in to what Bartley is trying to do with us.
Yet again, It's a question of longing for this season to fizzle out, so we can look to the next one and pray for something different. Any upturn would buck a trend that's now stretching to 4 or 5 seasons long.
And in that spell of 4 or 5 poor seasons the cry from the fans seems to have gone along the same lines of writing the season off and regrouping for the next season, yet each season just seems to get worse with no apparent recovery plan in place, and no outward signs that those in charge are even that bothered about the obvious overall decline of the Club.
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The Queen of the South thread
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Don't know if there was much truth in it but was he not being linked with the QoS job before Bartley was appointed. Anyway I'm sure he's in a better and safer position where he is.