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We're in danger of turning this into the RUSTY1111 Thread instead of the Queen of the South Thread. I think he can multi-quote but doesn't just to wind people up. Twattish behaviour I know, but it would be a pretty small number of posters on here if we banned all the wind-up merchants. Anyway, back to football talk and the question of loan players. Does it devalue a clubs achievement of winning games, Leagues and cups if they are relying on loan players, usually from Premier League clubs, to field a team and probably strengthen the team. Obviously the system is open to every club to use but it's probably the case that the bigger clubs can afford to attract the supposedly better quality of loan players when they already have a financial advantage over the smaller clubs enabling them to sign a better squad to start with. I'm not trying to pick on these "bigger" clubs, the systems there for them to use so they will. Even smaller teams who are struggling could sign a couple of loan players and possibly transform their season. As I say clubs rightly use the system to their advantage but is it a fair system, do we actually need a loan system or should clubs be made to stand or fall with the number and quality of players that they choose to sign for them?

For older listeners, Ken Dodd Bob Monkhouse Chic Murray.

Impatient b*****ds who overtake when vehicles are coming towards them and think they can cut in to the braking space you have left from the vehicle in front of you. Of course you let them in because you know that if there's an accident it will probably be others who will suffer whilst these twats drive on oblivious to everything around them.

According to one of today's papers Rigg is out for the rest of the season.

14 for me, having started to attend Palmerston (not very regularly as a nipper) in George Farm's last season I probably saw all of them that played after that. Numbers 2, 8, 11, 14, 19 and 20 are the ones I ruled out. Hard, and not very fair, to pick a favourite but Mallan, Bryce, Thomson and Dobbie would contest the top four places but they all had/have different styles and strengths. As for the shirt debate, I have to confess that I'm not into buying replica tops but I liked the "Fiat" blue and yellow stripe, the black and red stripe from a few seasons back and the current home and away kits.

The current goalkeeper/coaching set-up this season certainly doesn't seem as organised or professional on match days since Kenny Arthur moved on. At the pre-match warm up we had Robinson, Atkinson and 3rd choice Leighfield all involved which is fine but come half-time Atkinson is playing kickabout and passing with the other subs and Sports Scientist. Wouldn't it be better for our reserve keeper to do a proper goalkeeper warm-up at halftime helped by Leighfield, or when Leighfield is not there, one of the other subs could help out with a workout that benefits both keeper and other player. Maybe this is a small point but I doubt if any other team in the division doesn't have a specific routine for sub goalies at halftime, and at the very least it looks more professional.

Agreed that some of the "young" players have not been consistent enough or appear to lack the necessary talent for this division but the senior players, especially in defence and centre midfield. are just as culpable for the current situation we find ourselves in. No doubt injuries have played a part in disrupting us having a settled team but that is just part of the problem, we are losing goals and games because of schoolboy defending and lack of concentration. We have actually, in my humble opinion, played quite well in some of the games we have lost but for whatever reason, despite creating plenty of chances, we struggled to score and that gives opponents confidence. Ayr Utd and Raith Rovers away are games that spring to mind that we could and should have got something out of on possession and chances, Albion Rovers in the Cup also. Even in the 5 - 0 pumping by Morton we had two or three early chances to go in front before it all went pear-shaped. The fact that in most games we are still creating chances probably gives a few of us some hope that a resurgence is just round the corner but we need to stop gifting easy goals and start doing the basics right. Hopefully the new Manager can get things sorted out but unfortunately it may be too soon to expect his influence to show this Saturday.

I would think Brownlie would feel very hard done by if he was dropped just to let Higgins back in. A settled defence is about the most important part of the team I would say and Brownlie's displays have merited his continued inclusion. In my view only a couple of really poor displays by Brownlie, (or Dowie), or injury, or a change in formation would be Higgins' way back into the starting line-up and he'll possibly just have to be patient. Jacobs is maybe another player who has surprised a few this season and to my mind deserves his run in the team. He's maybe not a stand-out player but he works his socks off for the full 90 minutes. Fowler tended to chop and change the team depending on the opposition and Jacobs was hardly given a decent run plus he was asked to play in different positions when cover was needed.

Surprising that a Manager of Hartley's reputation doesn't have adequate cover for every position and has no plans to sign cover for a position that you say the present incumbent, although being regular 1st choice, has not been at his best. Sometimes a player's personal situation can affect performances, not saying this is the actual case in this instance, and you have to do what is best for the player and the team. Anyway time will tell if there is any truth in the rumours and we may be reading too much into them. He would still be a good addition to our squad however if it did come about.

If we are dealing in rumours then it's being claimed that the goss on the street suggests that Holt's personal circumstances would favour a move nearer to the Town and also rumours that his (football) relationship with his Manager is not the best. All rumours of course. Position wise, Holt I would say is probably the most left-sided of the names being bandied about and that appears to be the position that a lot of fans think needs strengthening. Of the players who have left recently, and talking about the playing side only, probably Danny Carmichael's situation would suggest he is the most obvious candidate to be sent out on loan but I'm sure he has stated that he wants to stay ay Hibs, get fit and impress the new Manager. It would be a decent move for us if he was loaned out to us however.

I mentioned Holt earlier, are you confirming that this is the player the Club is in talks about?

Holt from Dundee?

IIRC the thread was named "Scarves" but I wouldn't have the faintest idea what it was about. If you don't want to get in touch with him MB how will you know where to send these Arabic scarves?

I think 4th is realistically a bit beyond us tbh, which I would happily be proved wrong on, even finishing 5th I would consider to be very decent. I just hope we can do a bit better than last season's final position with a decent run in the Cups for a bit of added interest. Although it's still a bit early to be judging teams as most are still at the experimental stage I think Saturday's game against Partick Thistle will give a better indication of strengths and weaknesses that need to be addressed.

Yes, definitely double standards employed in major European and World Competitions than in domestic competitions and we're supposed to be working from the same Rule Book. Swerving slightly away from that issue, at last night's game an Airdrie player kicked the ball out for a throw-in to stop play because one of his team-mates' boot had come off. Surely this should only happen if a player is injured or something serious happens where the play should be stopped quickly, and you shouldn't expect to get the ball played back to you, which in this instance, the Queens player did. If it's not played out because of an injury or serious matter then I think you are within your rights to keep possession.

Just wondered if a player misses a game when he's picked up 2 bookings in different games as in the Euros. It will be interesting to see how referees react to goal celebrations when players run into the crowd after some of the celebrations witnessed at the Euros which went unpunished. I think scorers only got booked there if they removed their top. Serious double standards if our referees adopt a stricter stance.

Obviously everyone's situation is different. My disbelief at those who chose not to attend after the venue was switched was aimed more at those who had decided to drive up from Dumfries or travel on the supporters buses but then changed their minds when Hampden was ruled out. It just seem a bit strange to me considering the alternative venue would not cause those travellers much, if any, additional hassle. ETA: Laptop playing up, no idea why quoted poster's name appears twice.

I must have missed the player being booked in the kerfuffle at the free-kick decision. Certain few supporters around me wondered if he had been booked

I'll be the first to admit I wasn't one of Pickard's admirers last season, maybe because his performances were a bit hit and miss and his inclusion was keeping more experienced and potentially better players out of the team when I felt that was what was needed. I will say that what I have seen of him so far in the pre-season and yesterday, bearing in mind the level of opposition of course, has been quite impressive. Whether he can do it on a regular basis against better opposition remains to be seen. He at least deserves his chance but if it's not happening for him I hope Skelton is big enough to see it and not persevere with him which I thought Fowler was guilty of. As for yesterday's game, it was fairly comfortable and we should and could have scored more goals. We had a stonewall penalty denied us as the ref gave a free-kick at the edge of the box and not even a booking for the cynical tackle that led to it. Queens Park offered little as an attacking force but our players to their credit kept their attitude focused. Like others I am a bit confused why some supporters were not keen on going to the game yesterday just because it had been switched to Airdrie. Obviously a lot are on holiday or working but to not go if you are able just because it was not at Hampden seems a bit strange. As has already been said, you support the team and where they play should be irrelevant. It's not as if there is a major increase in distance. I see James Fowler has a full page spread in the Sunday Mail today talking about his desire to get back into the game. Part of me feels he was maybe a bit harshly treated by Queens but then I remember some of the dire performances and negativity last season and it was maybe the right decision for him to go. To his credit he has never said anything bad about the Club since he left and I wish him all the best in getting back into Management/Coaching in some capacity.

"Background music" in Banks and other offices that is played so loud that it is not really background music. Also the majority of music they play only heightens my realisation that they are trying to attract the younger clientele rather than those of us who are of more mature years. At least it's slightly better than the run up to Christmas where they pump out a loop of Christmassy songs from the beginning of November.

I've never understood why the Compare the Market meerkat "puppets" have Russian accents and names. Whilst it doesn't exactly keep me awake wondering, it does bother me slightly that I may be the only person who doesn't know the reason. And yes, apparently my life can be so boring at times that such things bug me.

I'll take your word on that as I have no idea who she or clean bandit are.

A fine instrument between her legs which she strokes lovingly. A Chello is the same as a cello but more friendly to play. ETA; Don't know what happened with that double quote.

^^^ This. I'm not really interested how many km a football player has run in comparison to his team's average, or how many % successful passes were made to teammates or misplaced. Commentators also like to throw in a lot of trivial stats as if to prove how smart they are. Things like "The player coming on as a sub actually played 15 minutes of a reserve game for an English League 2 side in 2008 whilst on loan from a Moldovian club." Aye very good pal but hardly relevant to the game your commentating on.

It's taking me a bit of time to get used to the new format also. Is there no autosave of previous content now?