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Thanks for that, I did not know about that one, it just piles up either anyone thinks its dishonesty or corruption, its definitely all wrong and they should not be in their levels of power making decisions about our football

Oh ffs, not you as well, its not about the conference league ffs, well all know the conference league aint happening. its about people who have been dishonest in levels of power and still functioning. Everyone seen sense, most teams in Scotland came together and made them bin it, (which was amazing) but they will try and think of some other plan in a few years time

Oh I'll crack on , don't you worry, when i say I'm wrong, i don't mind being wrong. I have given facts with dates and it has been totally ignored. I hope none of these ignorant people who try to make it personal are part of a team in some capacity as I'm sure the team are at that level due to antics like theirs. Cowdenleith, if someone gives me information that he or she says is facts, i'll think of it and say no it isn't true or yes it is true but later I would go and check and confirm and yes, say he was right or was wrong. I have given details with dates and even series numbers and no one has replied on here saying its untrue, but just made personal attacks, that tells you enough. The personal attacks will continue but wont talk and check about the facts I've presented even to prove factually that I'm wrong but that wont happen as the facts are true, again, tells you enough and yes, if I was proven wrong i don't mind saying I'm wrong, no problem with it whatsoever

oh feck, a pal is typing

Feel all you want, again another negative guy who tires to put people down, I've proved it, told you facts and dates and your last replies it to try and put the person down, like the poster above, shows you up as you don't listen to the truth, just sitting behind a keyboard trying to be negative and blindsiding. You wanted facts and you got them and you have ignored them and haven't disproved them all because it doesn't fit your narrative, tells everyone a lot

lol, the facts are correct, your the one, not me, who is name calling, not even proving that I'm wrong, sitting behind a keyboard, high fiving yourself thinking your brill

Yes as far as I'm aware the league can make their own vote on relegation but if they vote on it, they have to speak to the WOSFL, EOSFL and the SOSFL but then again there are many things the league need permission to sign off on by the SFA and suppose to a certain extent the SPFL as some would effect them directly in regards to promotion/relegation to and from both SPFL2 and LL. I'm sure someone at LL could put their knowledge to this as I'm sure it can be a minefield.

your just saying words with nothing concrete, I've proven it, showed the reason why, the facts, dates etc.. and you have ignored it and try and put the poster down. Shows more about you that anything else. Yeah I believe its corrupt and you don't. They all tried to get B teams in a conferences league and it was dishonest to the extremes

Pmsl, aye ok, is that your get out, saying a guy who doesn't know the difference between SFA and SPFL when you don't know him, you asked for the proof and sorry I came back late and typed it out, speaking to Maxwell personally a few times in the past and you could see his aim is to get to the top and stand on anyone/team in his way. You know what, this has all went on with the full knowledge of the top of the SPFL, (Neil Doncaster - chief executive of the SPFL), SFA, (Ian Maxwell - chief executive of the SFA) and of course Rangers and Celtic. The thing about you, is that your the sort of keyboard warrior on here if you dislike someone, even when they are right, which obviously I am, you always try the negative crap, one of the laughable things is Rangers pulling out of the conference league in a huff, so shafting their own boys , when days before saying the Lowland league is perfect for their young players development At the end of the day you know its true and if your denying it, even on here, well its showing you up, let others have their opinion of me as I know they will certainly have an opinion of you if they are of a clear mind.

I understand the meaning of corruption, by sounds of it you don't. Here this might help you out> dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery. Tom brown is chairman of the Lowland league but he is telling everyone and the Lowland league that no matter what they do the conference is coming. that is just not a conflict of interests, its worse, why is he saying these things either he is delusional, (could be that), or (he's been told by other parties to make sure everyone gets onside with a yes vote) and he was that dumb, he said it on the official catch up that the conference was coming no matter what happens. My view, (and truly cannot understand how anyone would think otherwise), this is a guy in power is he being dishonest or fraudulent and what is the reason for this Neil Doncaster, the chief executive of the SFA, then becomes a director of a league that is not even formed and he pushes it, along with others to have it formed. As his main job is chair executive of the SFA is this not a conflict of interests. Again A guy in power is he being dishonest or fraudulent and what is the reason for this, well he did become a director of a company that he wanted inserted into the Scottish pyramid league at tier 5. It is scary how people like you and others on previous posts are totally ignoring this. Genuinely no wonder Scottish Football is the way it is with people having all their own agenda that fecks up Scottish Football

Pmsl, aye Ok Neil Doncaster the SFA chief executive is named as director of the 'Scottish Conference league Limited' incorporated in 9th May 2023. No wonder he tried to keep his mouth shut and have Maxwell be the front of the main push. Yeah and he became director to make sure it was run correctly. Sorry if this is not corruption then i do not know what is. What would you call it, Brazil Forever? friendly banter Tom Brown who did not have the casting vote to incorporate B teams into the Lowland league, was the chairman who said on the official Catchup Podcast, (23rd Aprfil 2023 Series #123) That the conference league was going ahead no matter what Highland league voted for or what the Lowland league, (he is chairman of), no matter what they voted for. No is that is not a conflict of interests in regards to his role as chairman of the Lowland league. Sorry if this is not corruption then i do not know what is. What would you call it, Brazil Forever? friendly banter Civil Service Strollers were the team, I'm informed, that voted that relegation should not be looked into for the Lowland league until the SPFL2 open up relegation, is this self preservation or knowing that it is shafting's the rest of Scottish football from tier 6 down

Anyone can get promotion if they are run well, good management, good intelligent committee,, good ideas to grow the club and or money to spend etc... if it was true that teams like Cowdenbeath, East Stirlingshire, Berwick Rangers etc.. had above in the club then there would be a good chance they would not have been relegated from the SPFL2 but they were, same as any team that has been relegated, just not run as well as the teams who have not been relegated. Agreed most wont vote for things that will put their team on a shaky nail even if they know there will be a backlash for voting NO for automatic relegation. Every one of us has a view on why the relegation and promotion should be for each division in the Scottish Pyramid System

So Bonnyrigg and Kelty have good management, good money and were organized. Of course there can be automictic regulation, two down and the champions of Highland and Lowland go up and the 3rd bottom place of the SPFL2 playoff against the winners of 2nd place Lowland and Highland, That means 3 teams relegated form a 10 team league and what's wrong with that. Season 21/22 in the WOSFL premier division had a 20 team league and 7 were relegated, one of the best and most exciting season ever and you didn't know who was being relegated until the final kick of the ball in the 21/22 Play-off final between Tranent and Darvel. SO the comment, ONLY a ten team league doesn't wash

I don't know why your saying this to me, i agreed 100%, I don't want them in the Scottish Pyramid, they should not be there and it ruins Scottish Football. let them do what they want but not in the Scottish Pyramid

There's no confusion, i was mistaken thinking it was Tom brown who voted when it was George Fraser as which ever oen did the casting vote, id say they did it out of greed, knowing there would be a backlash I think its delusional people if being honest. Tom Brown want the guy who gave the castling vote, but the corruption stands against him and anyone who denies this is an egit. He was on the official catch up podcast and said the Conference league was coming, no matter what Highland and Lowland league voted for. So again, was he delusional or was he gotten to, and you can decide what way but no matter it was corrupt

SO true

Yes they are correct, go and provide the information to prove they are wrong

Can I ask?, excuse my ignorance if its something I've missed. I've been to a few Tranent games over the years including the playoff win against Darvel and been to some EK games in the past couple of years and I've actually enjoyed the experience of watching both but unsure why, regarding your comment that I've put in bold, why it is the best for everyone? I think Ek this year have been superb in the league, they are favorites and play good football and also spending the cash and as players, I'd say every player would love to play against EK who are fielding a strong squad so they can play against the best and beat the best in their league, which i suppose in this case its EK

Not all over the place, as I said, some people are not too bright at taking information in It's clear and to the point, telling you who the people are and who the teams are and reasons for etc.. ( Yeah that's all over the places ), if you choose to ignore it or not too bright I cannot be held accountable for your actions

ffs the guy, oh you support the same team lol, asked me for the information when it was already on previous post, took me 3 minutes to type out, so if 3 minutes is a lot of time for you then fair play to you Its not my fault if some people are not to bright at reading posts and clearly you've said i have presented some ideas when below they are all true, don't know what they says about you, either replying straight away or do you not think, go an do your own research first and then come on and state your views and then come on here and say I'm wrong and If i am I will easily apologies. Too many duck their head in the sand and this is why Scottish football is the way it is, so much potential to be better but too many thinking of self preservation or what they can gain out of it Evidence, oh ffs, don't worry, I've not said anything about Cowdenbeath lolol I've not presented any ideas, I've told you what Tom brown said, its still on the podcast, if you want to go and check. the same with Neil Doncaster and iain Maxwell pushing the Conferences league when their names are down operating it. As far as I'm aware it was Civil Service Strollers who initiated the relegation not be talked about. Corruption is a strong accusation, but also sucking someone else C*+ks is as well

We are in 100% agreement but at the time when Tom Brown was spouting his shite, the conference was just starting to gain negativity and opposition to it. I do think they will try against to get the B teams in the pyramid, they will let everyone chill for a while and try something else

This is common knowledge You've either not read the previous posts the way its intended but you say you have as you have said I've stated corruptions 4 times but for the slow leaners or slow to take information in , I don't mind putting it out there again. Tom brown who is the chairman of Lowland league, he went on the Official Catch Up podcast and said. 'The conference league is coming no matter what the Highland league and Lowland league vote for or against it'. This is the chairman of the lowland league and why is he saying that, he's either delusions or had conversations with Neil Doncaster and Iain Maxwell and they have enticed him to believe its coming, take whatever method you think they have used but he tried to coheres the rest of Lowland league teams to vote for the conference. Oh and he was also the chairman at the time of the inception of the B teams into the Lowland league and the vote was 8 for to join to 8 against to join and he was the deciding vote and guess what, went for the B teams to join. So personally, his job as chairman of the lowland league is untenable as most think its was corrupt in his decisions as most think he will make decisions to benefit his own agenda. Neil Doncaster and Maxwell both tried their hardest to push through the Conferences league with the help or Rangers and Celtic oh and funny enough they both had their names down as the organizers and operators of the conference league, many posts back stated this also, this is corruption as its a conflict of interests, they should not have anything to do with it, their job is to run Scottish football objectively and improve |Scottish football, not send it backwards while trying to make money from it. Civil Service Strollers, at the AGM, they nominated that the question regarding relegation from the Lowland league should not be brought up again until the SPFL2 open up relegation. It was seconded by an teams, (unknown to me who the team was ). So whatever you think, is this self preservation or corruption, seems to me corruption as they know they are deliberately putting Scottish football back and devaluing the Scottish Pyramid System. How's that, does that make it clear for you?

You don't need to reply as Ill try and make it clear for you Claims v Views Splitting hairs I think two totally different things, that's my view, not my claim, or its it my claim and not my view hmmmm lolol, Think the point is very clear as you have read and quoted from my previous posts so you know what is meant To make it clear for you and yeah you specifically: If Tranent who have been in the EOSFL and won it and then won the playoff and promoted to the Lowland league, they know how unfair it is in regards to promotion/relegation to and from the Lowland league and the SPFL2, so you would think most fans and committee etc.. would expect the club would vote for relegation to open up in the Lowland league and if promoted to the SPFL2 they would do the same If Bonnyrigg Rose who have been in the EOSFL and won it and then won the playoff and promoted to the Lowland league, and then won and promoted to the SPFL2 they know how unfair it is in regard to promotion/relegation to and from the Lowland league and the SPFL2, so you would think most fans and committee etc.. would expect the club would vote for relegation to open up in the Lowland league and the SPFL2. This will apply to any club in the tier 6 and below leagues who are or possible be promoted to the Lowland and maybe even the SPFL in future, you would think they would all want the promotion and relegation opened up. Any team in the SPFL2 who are relegated I do not believe they will come back straight away and will reside in the Lowland for quite a number of years and if any committees of these teams had any sense they would learn from Brechin, Cowdenbeath, East Stirlignshire, Albion Rovers and Berwick Rangers and realsie if they want a quite return from a touch league then automictic relegation and promotion to and from the SPFL2 would be beneficial. The same will go for any club in the Lowland league, if they are relegated, I don't think they will have a quick return as the tier 6 divisions of EOSFL and WOSFL are very tough, again, if they voted to open up the automatic coupel of relegation places then it gives them a greater chance of return. In regards to "I cant see any case" i don't know of any case but then again there doesn't need to be a case to start the ball rolling, but there are too many factors, i.e cost too much money, is it in their interest and also corrupt people running and in powerful positions at these levels. The LL and SFA agreed on it, and yeah, things evolve so changes can be made but there has to be 'a want' by either party to do so but if neither party want to go to 18 then its fine. Again as stated above, any team relegated from the Lowland into the EOSFL and the WOSFL will find it very hard to get out of those leagues. not forgetting the SOSFL, they could win it but doubt they will get past either the EOSFL champions or the WOSFL champions, but then again, you never know

Honestly the SFA has many jobs and one of them is to improve Scottish football and get more people involved, not keep it stale and even corrupt, that wont improve bigger attendances at all levels A. Where does it say claims, most are my views, a bit different to claims And again, the SFA don't want any more clubs in tier 5, that maybe true, (which I believe), may not be true, i aint privy but if that's the case, they should not be allowed to make it one rule for one league and a different rule for another league at the same level. Have you realized its a governing body and there are bodies above them who could interdict and they make decisions that interfere with a place of work so obviously things can be taken further in different avenues but again, the cost and with self preservation, it wont happen. B. Again worried that your either ignoring this or not taking it in!! It is already here, its a NO for automotive relegation from the SPFL2, the clubs voted on that but allowed club 42 to be in a relegation playoff to try and calm the situation. Teams like Bonnyrigg, Tranent and Linlithgow Rose realize how hard it is to get promoted and you'd hope they would vote the same views to have relegation opened up in the SPFL2 and Lowland leagues. C. Again the SFA has many jobs and one of them is to improve Scottish football and get more people involved, not keep it stale and even corrupt, that wont improve bigger attendances at all levels. Did I say the SFA are pushing for enhanced ventilation, there not going to as we all know how corrupt it is. They are stepping back from it, because they know its wrong and don't want to be plagued down with it. if you can do a favour, if you read my posts or maybe others, do read it a couple of times as you've said a few things that I'm saying it true etc.. when I've plainly put it across as a viewpoint, I don't get what you have to gain by changing it, I will only correct you and thus dilute your comments when others read it

I never said they were against an 18 team league, i doubt it, the only benefit to the league teams was that the league would have more teams thus saving themselves a chance of being relegated. Also who cloud cuckoo land? its a governing body and if they say to the two leagues in tier 5, you will be an 18 team league and you will be a 16 team league, what is that, bullying, victimization etc... at the end of the da, they wouldn't take it further as the cost would outweigh the benefits for all the teams. Not talking about the teams, the committees will have their own chat in meeting what they think, but fans will do make comments, and not just ones on here and again, i didn't say vast majority. Agreed about nothing in return, but there should be anything rewarded except better, strong teams coming into a higher league, that's the reward. The SFA and SPFL know its wrong and know there are better , stronger teams below at this current time so they should put pressure to get relegation in order. One idea, just tell the SPFL2 teams that if relegated there will be no parachute payments or help when relegated but there will be if relegation is opened up. Everyone knows its wrong, the only reason why there's no automatic relegation is purely down to self preservation, as I said before, any teams relegated from the SPFL2, i don't see them coming back soon on the twist side, do we think teams like Kelty, Edinburgh City, Bonnyrigg, who are in the SPFL would vote against no relegation from the SPFl2. then again, teams like Tranent and Linlithgow Rose, would they vote for to open up relegation from the Lowland league having come up in the past couple of years from the EOSFL, (it would be great to think, yes, they would)