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39 minutes ago, BinoBalls said:
Not this again…
Anyway. Let’s give peace a good chance. I think a clear majority just want this resolved at least semi-amicably. I am hopeful both sides will realise just how many people are counting on them acting calmly and not fighting every single battle.
I agree with you but it takes 2 to tango and while you have people like WCBoggs on here it’s very difficult not to respond to sniddy comments.
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33 minutes ago, WC Boggs said:
I heard you've been busy on facebook..
And ?
While I am on here can I say I was less than impressed with your comments last night at the Trust meeting. I got the impression that most of those present were a bit pissed off with you as well. No doubt you will deny this but I really think you need to have a long and hard look at what you say to people and how you come across here on this forum WC Boggs. Clearly someone is pulling your strings in the background and I think most people know what I am talking about. It does you no favours and its not a good way to portray yourself or the Club for that matter.
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9 hours ago, WC Boggs said:
Will it put and end to your new war with Mrs McGregor though?
What new war with Mrs McGregor are you talking about. ?
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Well I did not find out about the Trust Board Update until I arrived at the meeting tonight.
Having read it, the proposed changes to the Articles of Association of Stirling Albion Fc seem fair.
Let’s hope an agreement can be reached and these changes being proposed are put in place as soon as possible.
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42 minutes ago, Cardle is Magic said:
Holy christ, I saw this on Twitter and had assumed it was someone taking the piss 🫣
Unfortunately Not, its the continuing saga that is unfolding at Stirling Albion.
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9 hours ago, WC Boggs said:
More serious questions.
Hey Trust board, why aren't you telling people what this "settlement" entailed?
Why was there never any mention of it in Trust board minutes?
Why are minutes being edited?
You say the Club board reneged on the "settlement" you've kept from the membership within 48 hours. True I believe, but don't you think Liston and Dick ramming in a resolution to remove the chairman within 48 hours might be relevant to that?
Actually 3 resolutions submitted on a single form. Which meant they were linked and that if one fell, they all fell. Yet you were going to have them voted on individually despite the single form they were submitted on. Thus giving the remove the chairman part a better chance of passing. WHY DID YOU DO THAT TRUST BOARD? Why, when you had reached a secret settlement would you do that and then be surprised that the Club board backed out. WHY?
WHY have you repeatedly put out a false narrative that the Club board wouldn't talk or negotiate, when BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION they clearly did? They were talking and negotiating until Liston and Dick threw a spanner in the works. A spanner you picked up and applied some torque to. You believe in club board elections you claim. OK PROVE IT!
Let the club board put themselves up for re-election, against the people you intend to install in their place. Not just the three enablers. ALL OF THEM, including who's going to be the REAL new chairman. Let them all debate. Let them all be questioned. Lets find out if a group of volunteers are to be replaced by people on salaries that will come straight out of the playing budget?
A club board that's elected. YEP! Let's have that RIGHT NOW.
Let's have ALL the candidates up for election. RIGHT NOW
Get yer democratic ya ya s out NOW, not ummmm.....well....... later......some time.,.....
Oh by the way. You can't "draft in " volunteers. The words draft and volunteers do not belong in the same sentence.
As the person who submitted 3 resolutions to the Trust AGM for consideration by the members, I would like to respond the latest Rant by WC BOGGS.
First of I would like to correct WC BOGGS comments in that their was collusion between myself and any member of the Trust Board in preparing my resolutions. That was NOT the case.
As a supporter for over 40 years following Stirling Albion both home and away I was concerned at the way this Club was going. Stuart Brown having been in charge for nearly 8 years had in my opinion failed to get this Club out of League 2.
Despite having a number of managers appointed and mostly sacked during his time as Chairman the Club was going backwards. Any supporter who attended Forthbank during the last few months of last season will know how the team after a promising start to the season had fallen away badly and were struggling near the foot of the Table.
I felt that change was needed at the top and that is why I submitted my resolution to the Trust AGM. I would like to add that at the Trust`s previous AGM held on Zoom, I did submit questions to the Trust Board regarding Stuart Brown and whether the Trust Board set any targets for the Chairman to aim for. Suffice to say I was not happy with the response from the Trust Board on the matters and I DID say at the time that if things DID NOT improve then I would take further action.
That is the reason I submitted my resolutions to the Trust AGM because of the way the Club was going. I made it clear in my resolutions why I was taking this action. I left it up to the members of the Trust to either vote YES OR NO for my resolutions.
As many of you are aware , due to various things happening Dodgy Voting, a sudden influx of people joining the Trust etc, the Trust was forced to cancel the Trust AGM. thus denying the members the opportunity to have their say on these matters.
Since then their has been a number of things said both on Social Media and indeed on the Club Website regarding these matters. We have had Club Directors publish articles on the Club Website saying that if Stuart Brown goes we all walk. Threats of scaremongering etc.
Then we had the Gang of 74 (People mostly who had joined the Trust after my resolutions were submitted) putting forward a resolution to remove the Entire Trust Board without giving any reasons why they wanted them removed. This was deemed to have broken the Trust Rules and was refused by the Trust Board. Since then their has been various attempts made to cause problems for the Trust Board.
The outcome of this is that their will on the 3rd of August a meeting of Shareholders to discuss the proposal from the Trust to remove the 3 Club Directors and replace them with a new Interim Board. The Trust will be implementing new Rules of Governance to make any future Club Director accountable to the Trust and its members
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1 hour ago, Snoddyisabino said:
I’ve been a Stirling fan my whole life time and have deliberately avoided all of this debacle throughout - but given the players are apparently now involved I thought I’d try get to grips with what’s going on here
I know this has all been done to death over the summer but can someone confirm or deny that the way I have interpreted things is correct?
As far as I’m aware, there will be a vote of the Trust membership on August 3rd to determine whether the current Club board should remain in post?
If the trust then votes to oust the current club board, there will be an employment process for a new board and once that has happened, the trust membership will then vote on whether those individuals should be involved in the new board?
If this is the case, who will then run the club whilst the trust employ a new board?
I don’t have a side to this argument so I’m not looking to get involved in any debates about this but if someone would be willing to tell me if I’m talking shite or not that would be grand!
No vote for the Trust membership of the 3rd of August. Only Shareholders are allowed to attend. The Trust Board have proposed removing the 3 Club Directors and installing new Club Directors on the night.
The Trust Board have already made it known 3 new Directors in a new interim Board will be installed, they are Neil Emslie Interim Chair, Directors Ian Allardice and Allisdair Dunn, both major shareholders in the Club after the Supporters Trust.
Hope this makes things clear.
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2 hours ago, Binos said:
There is literally no lengths Stuart won't go to, to keep himself in a blazer
Agree the sooner we get rid of Stuart Brown the better imo
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23 minutes ago, Binos said:
There is literally no lengths Stuart won't go to, to keep himself in a blazer
Agree isn`t it a bit early for the Pantomine season.
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18 minutes ago, Red Watch said:
Readers will have seen my post of 20.40 on Saturday which attempted to promote a conciliatory approach to the current problems which also drew upon views garnered at the Peterhead game. I appealed to Mr Boggs to become involved constructively with a view to engineering a solution likely to avoid disruption at the club. You will have seen his reaction and drawn your own conclusions as to his motives for reacting in the way that he has.
Since my post we have seen the publication via Twitter (but not via the Club’s official website) of a missive from the Club Board and the publication of a communication purporting to be from solicitors acting on behalf of the Club Board.
In order for readers to have a more balanced picture, I set out below the text of an email issued by the Trust Board late last night in response to the Club’s earlier communication:
The Stirling Albion Supporters’ Trust seek to clarify a number of points raised in the Club communication today.
The Club’s communication, a letter from Gilson Gray LLP, the solicitors acting on behalf of Mr Brown, and associated statement, focuses on two points: the offer of mediation and voting by members. The Club says the letter was not answered.
We stated in a communication with the Membership on 8th July 2022, that previous attempts at mediation had failed. Mediation has been attempted before, in 2018, but the agreed outcome was then rejected by the Club Board and, subsequently, an accusation of bias was leveled at the mediator by the Club Chairman. When a new Trust Board was elected, it was hoped that some progress to address these issues could be made but all attempts have failed: in 2021 attempts to set up Terms of Reference for a Joint Working Group were ignored by the Club; and, in February 2022, a joint meeting which agreed a way forward was rejected by the Club less than 48 hours later.
In May of this year, after a further mediation suggestion at the Club EGM, a telephone conversation took place the following day and once again the Club placed obstacles in the way of progress, the Club chairman stating he was unwilling for his Board to work with three elected members of the current Trust Board.
Therefore, by the actions of the Club Chairman, we have every reason to believe the results of any mediation would be rejected by the Club Board. The Club Board have proven unwilling, time and again, to work with the Trust or be accountable to the Trust as the majority owners of the Club. Rules, via the Club’s Articles, need to be in place to ensure that this and future Club Boards are subject to the oversight and scrutiny of the Club’s owners - as is normal practice in all businesses.
Secondly, the letter suggests a proper vote of the Membership. Unfortunately, and as has been communicated, prior to the Trust AGM which had been scheduled for March, the membership was flooded with new members in a clear case of entryism engineered by the Club Board. Attempts to distort the membership included writing to members of Stirling Golf Club requesting they join and vote in a certain way. In addition, the voting process was abused in a clear breach of Trust rules - in one example, a Club Director was trying to vote on behalf of 42 others.
There will be a democratic vote of the Membership, but the appropriate rules and governance structure need to be in place to ensure the long term stability of the Club first. The current Club Board have shown themselves to be unwilling to work with the Trust to put these rules in place.
We have made it clear that new Board appointments will be selected after an interview process and put to the members for approval. Appointments will be for a fixed term. There will be no restriction on who may present themselves as a candidate to an elected board. We would also like to make it clear that there is no threat at all to anyone’s jobs or any volunteer positions at Stirling Albion. That is not what our actions are aimed at – they are aimed at putting
proper governance structures in place for the future. In the best interests of Stirling Albion we call upon the Club to participate in a full and appropriate handover with the incoming interim board.
It is clear the governance structure, including changes to the Club Articles of Association, is required to safeguard the long term stability of Stirling Albion, removing tensions that have existed over the years. It is essential that we move forward and improve the relationship between Trust, as the majority shareholders, and the Club Board. These changes will provide a framework for this and we hope make a start in uniting the support.
To reassure, members will be given a vote on the appointment of Club Directors following this interim period. We believe the Trust members should have a vote on the appointment of Club Directors - this is something that under the current structure does not exist.
Please let us know if you would like any further information, you can contact us by simply replying to this email.A couple of points occur to me. Firstly, are the solicitors aware that several previous attempts to mediate came to nothing and the reasons for that happening? Secondly, great store has been attached by the solicitors (and by our lavatorial correspondent on this forum) on the need for Trust members to have a vote on removing existing directors. One wonders whether the solicitors were or are aware of the jiggery-pokery whereby a Club Board member actively “recruited” a flood of previously unheard-of people interested in joining the Trust? One wonders, also, if the solicitors were or are aware of attempts being made to rustle up additional members from within Stirling Golf Club?
I would to think that the Solicitors would have had no idea as to what is happening in the background.
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1 hour ago, King Crownest said:
Willie Gibson was there aye??
I will bet you all the hallucigenic drugs you're on that the current Queen of the South manager did not roll up pished to a Stirling Albion Supporters Trust meeting and start ranting about Stuart Brown.
Also, you say the chairman reneged on the mediation AFTER the Trust board quit.
Actually, he reneged on the mediation weeks BEFORE the Trust board quit.
If I were indiscreet, I would be able to tell you about the joint Club/Trust meeting at which it happened and who was the CLUB director who was left seething at the chairman suddenly changing his mind.
This is already too fractious an issue for you to keep splurging BS and fantasy into a public forum - and yet you keep doing it!!
Finally, you keep saying it's a coup. No it's not. How can it be a coup when the Trust is using its legal powers to sort out something it legally owns?
I hold no torch for the Trust board at all - this should have been sorted years ago.
But the fact is it IS getting sorted now and there is no going back.
The Club board says it has the best interests of the club at heart - so it will surely do everything now to make sure this transition is smooth.
That is what Stirling Albion needs.
100% Agree with your comments, this mess the Club finds itself in SHOULD have been sorted out years ago. We are finally going to get it sorted out. I wish the interim Board who take over on the 3rd of August all the best. I think they will need it. I can see a number of people throwing their dolls out the pram when this does happen.
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10 hours ago, King Crownest said:
The chairman is sending a legal letter demanding a vote by Trust members or mediation, leading to a managed transition?
Been there, done that!!
August 2017 at the Mayfield, the members voted 58 per cent to 42 per cent for the chairman to go.
He ignored the members' wishes.
Instead, the Trust board went to mediation with the chairman, who promised he would abide by the result.
The mediator advised for him to go via a managed transition - he ignored the mediator.
Yes, this whole thing is a shambles and been badly handled.
But the Trust board represents the majority shareholder and is invested with the power to hire and fire Club board members.
Under the constitution, the Trust membership is NOT ALLOWED to give the Trust board binding directions on who to hire and fire.
In fact, the Trust board actually WANTS to change the constitution so that members CAN have a vote on who's on the Club board!!
Everyone who is currently on the Club board will be able to stand in those elections.
But the Trust board CANNOT GET ON AND DO THESE THINGS because the Club board WON'T GO.
The Trust board IS TRYING to implement a managed transition via a new interim board.
Club board...you've had your fair vote, you've had all the democracy and legal timetables that it is possible to have.
There is nothing more to discuss.
The people with the shares have decided it's time to go.
So, PLEASE, in the name of God, GO!!!
Couldn`t agree more with your post and for the point of interest the Trust Board have released another update explaining their position with regard to the recent letter from Stuart Brown published on this forum. I would advise all Trust members to read it.
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10 hours ago, TheWestStand said:
From that comment all it proves is Mr Liston as expected has a vindeta against Stuart Brown and it now shows
Really a vandetta against Stuart Brown
, I take it you have read the update from the Trust Board explaining its position in relation to the letter from Stuart Brown on Twitter and posted on this forum.
If you have not I suggest you get a copy and read it it as it lays out the Trust Board position very clearly.
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Well lets hope for another away win on Saturday, its going to be tough imo but after defeating Peterhead on Saturday the guys will be full of confidence. Would quite happy settle for another 2-1 win.
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4 hours ago, TheWestStand said:
looking forward to @rhliston response
Nothing to do with me.
Signs of a desperate Club Board trying to save their skin by the looks of it.
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9 minutes ago, dave_binos said:
What are your thoughts for the season ahead lads? I am cautiously optimistic we can finish mid-table. We are a disaster off the park (won't go into that) but feel like we have performed reasonably well in the League Cup.
Goalkeeper - seem to have two solid options. Currie is brilliant at this level.
Defence - It wasn't very good last season but hopefully improves with Paul McLean back. Feel like the signing of Clark has been a great one. Having two better options than we had last season gives me some hope.
Midfield - needs improvement. Denholm seems to have a good understanding with Clark but like others pointed out a few weeks ago, extremely worried about creating chances over a 36 game season. Leitch getting injured earlier certainly doesn't help matters. I did like the look of Josh Cooper but needs games. I'd personally have kept Roberts and Grant but that's in the past.
Attack - we need Carrick to score. If he gets injured we're in trouble. There's a good player in Robert Thomson but he doesn't score many goals. Jury is out on Burns at this level. Had a couple of good chances today but failed to take them.
1st-3rd - can't see it happening unless we sign a few great loans and things become settled off the park. There do seem to be other teams in the division who are struggling to assemble a decent team. This gives me optimism that we can finish anywhere from 4th-8th.
I would hope to get into the playoffs this season at least, mid table to me is just another wasted season.
Goalkeepers Agree Blair Currie is a good solid keeper.
Defence If we can keep Paul McLean fit and healthy then the defence should improve. Clark has been good, hopefully will turn out to be a good signing for us. Just hope we can avoid injuries to key players like McGregor/ Cumins.
Midfield Think we lack a creative midfield player to create chances for our forwards but you never know the signings made so far could prove their worth in the season ahead.
Attack A lot appears to be riding on Dale Carrick this season, if he gets the service and stays clear of injuries then we are in with a chance. Thompson don’t know about him he should be an asset once he settles in. Burns still to find his feet at this level, let’s hope he learns fast, could be a useful addition.
Don’t expect us to win this League but would hope to get into 3rd or 4th spot. After 2 seasons of failing it’s time we at least made the playoffs. Whether we do anything if we did get to them remains to be seen but at least it will be progress.
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12 minutes ago, gmca said:
It does thanks if my understanding is right.
Basically, because the shareholders meeting had an existing resolution to oust the club directors, there can't be a trust members resolution to not oust the club directors.
Yes according to the legal advice the Trust Board received.
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21 minutes ago, Red Watch said:
Whilst at the match today I had a chat to a number of fans about the impending discussions about the removal of Club board members including the Chairman. Almost without exception those fans were apprehensive about the Club and its future were it to lose overnight the services of key individuals who have contributed significantly to the matchday experience as well as at other times.
Quite apart from this the fans were of the opinion that the Club Board’s actions in not engaging with the Trust, as majority owners and shareholders, were beyond reason and not in the interests of Stirling Albion FC. Indeed, those fans considered the Club’s actions to have been detrimental to Stirling Albion and to the reputation of football in community.
A general view emerged that it was high time that certain individuals, on both sides, swallowed their pride and ceased to display the animosity to each other which has been all too evident. It was considered inevitable that there was no way of escaping the fact that the Club and the Trust are going to have to engage with each other constructively and work together for the advancement of the Club. Neither side has a monopoly on expertise in running a football club, whilst each side will be able to contribute ideas designed to strengthen the club to the point where its future in the short, medium and longer term can be assured.
The fans I spoke to believe that the Trust has on several occasions in the past offered an olive branch to the Club Board only to be rebuffed. Why should this be? What legitimacy prevails to support this negative attitude. If this persists, we will lose key individuals that we can ill-afford to lose through their removal from office and Stirling Albion FC will suffer as a consequence.
I know not if the Club Chairman reads this forum. If he does, I would urge him on behalf of fans to show that he is big enough by contacting the Trust Chairman without delay with a view to setting up discussions as a matter of urgency with a view reaching agreement on a mechanism to further understandings on a range of issues which have been allowed to fester for many months. If he does not read this forum, I would urge Mr Boggs to act as a go between to relay this message to him urgently.
Likewise, if anyone has contact with the Trust Chairman, can urgent contact be made with him to convey the pressing message that the two sides need to come together to obviate further conflict which is in the offing in the shape of the Special General Meeting of the Trust next Tuesday and then the General Meeting of the Club Limited Company just over a week later on 3rd August.
One fan suggested to me that the two sides appoint a mutually acceptable person to facilitate constructive dialogue on the way forward and this idea might have some merit.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the fact is its gone on for far too now and their is no turning the Clock back and hoping for some sort of compromise, its too late in the day for that to happen.
All we can hope for is once the Dust settles and the changes the Trust Board have promised to make take effect that the future of the Club is strengthened and we have a more Democratic Club Board who respond to the wishes of the Trust members.
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1 hour ago, WC Boggs said:
To believe the propaganda the Trust board is now shitting out at the rate of a full herd of cows, you'd think the club board were responsible for there being no revised constitution and no governance rules.
We've been looking at other fans owned clubs and their constitutions and governance rules they say. They say it like it's all new to them. LIES! BULLSHIT! They were tasked by membership vote to look at other fans owned clubs over 4 years ago. They were tasked to write up a new constitution over 4 years ago. It was in their power and remit to create rules of governance as part of that over 4 years ago.
SO WHY DIDN'T IT HAPPEN? WHO REALLY DEFIED THE WISHES OF THE MEMBERSHIP FOR A BETTER RUN CLUB?
The writing of sections of the new constitution and rules were divided up between individual members. Some returned their completed sections in good time. 2 dragged their feet and in the end failed to produce the parts they had been assigned.
THAT IS WHY A NEW CONSTITUTION AND RULES OF GOVERNANCE DIDN'T HAPPEN! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE 2 TRUST BOARD MEMBERS DEFIED THE MEMBERSHIP AND MADE SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
The membership were never informed of the defiance and the whole issue neatly buried in over 2 years of pandemic silence. So we get to today and that same pair who denied the club a new constitution and better governance, still sit on that board. They sit there while the Trust board shits out the false narrative that it's Club board defiance that's prevented better governance. They sit there KNOWING the Club board never had the power to resist better governance and actually WANTED The new constitution and governance rules THE TRUST BOARD REFUSED TO DELIVER FOR OVER 4 YEARS.
THAT'S WHO DEFIED YOU AND DENIED YOU BETTER GOVERANCE! THAT''S WHO SOLD YOU UP THE SWANNY AND WANTS YOU TO TRUST THEM WITH THE POWER OF BOTH BOARDS.
They aren't fit to represent you on one board, never mind two.
1 hour ago, WC Boggs said:To believe the propaganda the Trust board is now shitting out at the rate of a full herd of cows, you'd think the club board were responsible for there being no revised constitution and no governance rules.
We've been looking at other fans owned clubs and their constitutions and governance rules they say. They say it like it's all new to them. LIES! BULLSHIT! They were tasked by membership vote to look at other fans owned clubs over 4 years ago. They were tasked to write up a new constitution over 4 years ago. It was in their power and remit to create rules of governance as part of that over 4 years ago.
SO WHY DIDN'T IT HAPPEN? WHO REALLY DEFIED THE WISHES OF THE MEMBERSHIP FOR A BETTER RUN CLUB?
The writing of sections of the new constitution and rules were divided up between individual members. Some returned their completed sections in good time. 2 dragged their feet and in the end failed to produce the parts they had been assigned.
THAT IS WHY A NEW CONSTITUTION AND RULES OF GOVERNANCE DIDN'T HAPPEN! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE 2 TRUST BOARD MEMBERS DEFIED THE MEMBERSHIP AND MADE SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
The membership were never informed of the defiance and the whole issue neatly buried in over 2 years of pandemic silence. So we get to today and that same pair who denied the club a new constitution and better governance, still sit on that board. They sit there while the Trust board shits out the false narrative that it's Club board defiance that's prevented better governance. They sit there KNOWING the Club board never had the power to resist better governance and actually WANTED The new constitution and governance rules THE TRUST BOARD REFUSED TO DELIVER FOR OVER 4 YEARS.
THAT'S WHO DEFIED YOU AND DENIED YOU BETTER GOVERANCE! THAT''S WHO SOLD YOU UP THE SWANNY AND WANTS YOU TO TRUST THEM WITH THE POWER OF BOTH BOARDS.
They aren't fit to represent you on one board, never mind two.
Having read you Rant about the Trust Board and how its ALL the fault of the Trust Board including 2 certain members who you do NOT name, I would like to respond to your Rant.
Any Directors who IGNORE, REFUSE TO COMMUNICATE AND REFUSE TO ATTEND MEETINGS with the OWNERS of the Club, clearly are asking for trouble.
I have read posts of various Social Media platforms from former Trust Board Chairmen about how they tried to get round a table and talk to the Club Board only to be ignored is very worrying.
Then when the Club Directors try through their gang of 74 to have the entire Trust Board removed without a reason, is it any wonder the Trust Board have reacted in such a manner. The time for talking is over and the Trust Board have taken action to remove the 3 remaining Club Bard Directors by calling a General Meeting of Stirling Albion Football Club Shareholders on the 3rd of August.
The Club Board deserve what is coming to them on the 3rd of August. Whilst the Trust Board DO have faults, they have an obligation to its members to run the Trust properly. They have taken action to protect the Trust`s INTERESTS as the majority shareholder and owner of Stirling Albion F.
That`s the facts as I see it.
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4 hours ago, gmca said:
Can you advise why the vote was deemed legally invalid?
Quoting from the Trust Update "Having taken legal advice , the first resolution in the notice will not be voted on because it is incompetent . Notice of the General Meeting of Stirling Albion Football & Athletic Club Ltd (The "Club") on the 3rd of August has already been given by the Club and, once given, there is no legal authority for this to be withdrawn or cancelled. The notice served on the Club by the Trust on the 14th June calling for the General Meeting which will be held on the 3rf of August therefore cannot now be "disregarded " and the proposed first resolution is therefore legally invalid".
Hope that clears things up.
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Latest Update from the Trust Board, re the meeting on the 26th July, their will be NO vote on whether to cancel the proposed removal of 3 Club Directors as it is deemed legally invalid. Only vote to take place will be on the 2nd Resolution to hold an AGM.
So it means that on the 3rd of August the Interim Board will take over the running of the Club.
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13 hours ago, WC Boggs said:
The idea that cliques cannot exist within an elected body is utterly laughable. I kind of dread the idea of electing a club board. That's because of the example set by the Trust board. Two sets of elected numpties isn't that appealing an idea.
That said, for the avoidance of even more civil war, it would be better if the club board had to be re-elected every 5 years and anyone invited to join the club board, by the club board, confirmed by a members vote.
No the present club board has not been elected, but it was to be replaced by people who were to be appointed, not elected. Not democratic either. There will now be a vote to determine what happens next, as there should be. A vote that should have taken place during closed season, not delayed until the season is under way. But that's elected numpties for you.
Really 2 sets of elected numpties isn`t appealing
, what would you suggest the present setup. ?
5 Years is too long, maximum of 2/3 years for Directors imo, with the Chairman every 3 years.
Well if the Club Board and its gang of 74 had not put in resolutions to remove the entire Trust Board with any reasons being given followed by Dodgy voting from a certain individual we would have had an AGM at near the end of the season.
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Signed on loan from Livingston Midfielder Harrison Clark.
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23 minutes ago, WC Boggs said:
Ah cliques. Let's talk about cliques.
Back when the whole membership applications and votes via a single email address screw up occurred, the Trust board said they had requested a shareholder's EGM to discuss their pursuit of police investigation.
When that collapsed in fiasco, with the Trust board announcing they were no longer pursuing police investigation, for some strange reason they still intended going ahead with that EGM even though the reason for it had been dropped. I questioned this and a new EGM was announced. This time we were told because several shareholders had requested it. What a convenient coincidence! There's the Trust board looking for a reason to keep that EGM on and up pops a couple of shareholders giving them one. We have that one, then another one and hey presto a cooperative CLIQUE of shareholders and Trust board members stitch up the entire membership and award themselves the club board spoils.
That's how a real CLIQUE works Rhliston. Secret deals. No democracy allowed and divvy up the prizes between the boys. Even if they aren't qualified for the job. So who's the rest of the real CLIQUE? The one's waiting in the shadows to do the jobs the 3 caballeros can't do?
First of all, the Trust Board was elected by the members so its not a clique. Can you tell me WHO ELECTED Stuart Brown,, Lorri Graham and Colin Rowley onto the Club Board. ?
If members are not happy with the Trust Board at least they can be voted out. Also any Trust members can stand for election to the Trust Board. Can you tell me how this works on the present Club Board. ? Clearly unless your in Stuart Brown`s clique their is NO chance of getting on the Club Board, NOT very democratic is it. ?
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A Message to All Stirling Albion Trust Members
in Scottish League 2 General Chatter
Posted · Edited by rhliston
I am surprised by your decision to resign from the Trust, given your opinions on the Trust Board that was wise.
I welcome your decision to stay quiet during the proposed mediation talks.
I will consider my position on the matter but will make no promises.