Shadwell Dog

I don't see him being a right back for us in this league that's for sure. If we're going to be playing some decent football we'll need a full back that can get forward and cross a ball. As a centreback it depends who he's alongside.

Christ. Not much of an upgrade on McKenna apart from his pens. Amazing to think that queen's park have been promoted despite winning less games in the league than our dross this season.

Yes you do get that case that sometimes a second bottom top flight club is that bad they lose out to the championship club. Basically it should be two down every season. That we agree on. Just depends on how you want to choose the teams below.

I was pointing out that last season they had flung money at their side to get up so probably had a bigger budget than Killie. Most seasons though that will be far from the case.

Seems to be taking it all the way with this tribunal mind you.

Why would you refuse to play over something that hadn't happened though? It's a bit much having to move a shite side like Peterhead from a decent side like Airdrie because you make up claims of racial abuse. Doesn't make sense. I guess the employment tribunal will uncover the reasons whenever it takes place.

If it has to be a playoff then have it like the English playoffs then. No need to involve a team from the top flight . Have the champ winners promoted and the next 4 play off to replace the second bottom side. Hamilton and livi is one thing but Dundee probably spent more cash than Killie they replaced so it's ok for clubs who want to fling money at their sides.

You're asking teams to get better before you give them the cash to be able to do that. It should be a straight two up two down and that should be it. If it has to be playoffs then it should be a similar format to that in England with the two teams who've had awful seasons relegated and the ones that have had successful seasons playing it off to join the champs. The standard of the championship club at that point means nothing. The clubs that go up then have the extra cash to use to improve their squads to play in the top flight. It's not what their team is like at the end of that championship campaign that's important it's what it's like at the start of the next premiership campaign surely. If st Johnstone with their budget advantage can't beat Inverness over two legs with the second leg in Perth then there's something far wrong.

I see it looks like Airdrie have been up to their usual behaviour. More racial and sectarian abuse being claimed by jai quitongo .

That's only because for a good part of that it was one up one down. It's fine if you're a Dundee who can fling money at their side and that balances out the gap but for your bog standard championship side it's still very difficult. It's crazy having a different set up in one playoff from the other 3 anyway. Premier team should play 4th in the champ and then the winner of 2nd v3rd in the champ. If they have to be involved at all.

Exactly mate. It's just a football forum. No need for anyone to get personal but some folk would rather talk about anything but football it would seem.

Who my friends are is my business and my business alone. It doesn't effect in any way whether I will slag off a bod who make an arse of my football club.

Not often the playoff spot from the top flight happens on the very last game. In fact when we played Killie they were guaranteed the playoff spot with about 2 games to go and could put their feet up for a couple of weeks whilst we ran ourselves into the ground against Hibs . None of these are the main advantage for top flight clubs anyway. The fact they start the season with a more than a million quids worth of budget from prize money than the team they are playing against. That is never going to produce a level playing field.

Yes funnily enough that's because the old board managed to get us in a right feckin mess. League one football having spent all our money. Now did I slag them off when they first came in ? No I gave them a chance to show what they can do. They failed and I criticised them for that. I'm going to give the new board the same chance funnily enough. If we're just as bad come next season I'll then criticise them. It's no difficult to get your head round it really.

You can stick out your kids team today though as the game is utterly meaningless. ICT couldn't exactly do that. Plus why is the playoff second game always at the top flight ground? Very unfair that they get 120 mins plus penalties to win at their home ground every year. Should be a straight draw to see who plays at home. We constantly want to reward failure in Scottish football.

Exactly. The teams at the top flash a few quid to league one and two teams many of whom think it will never effect them anyway and the teams in the championship get shafted at every turn. Bet Arbroath probably dropped their drawers quick enough when the cash was mentioned but they might be in the top flight now if they hadn't.

I've never at any point said I had friends on the bod and if I did I'm not going to chat about the origins of that anyway. Can we no just talk about football on here?

The board will deserve criticism if they like any other board don't produce the goods it's as simple as that. I'm 100 percent confident though that they will never stoop to the goings on that the previous bod have off the park even if the on the park decisions don't work out. I didn't criticise the old bod either when they walked in the door. I gave them a chance to produce the goods which they failed miserably to do taking the club backwards at an incredible rate. I would criticise any board that carries on like they have whether I know anyone on the bod or not. If you don't agree with decisions it's in your right to complain, protest not go.

Are Arbroath without nouble much better than they've been the last two seasons? Is it not just the same players in the majority?

Won't get optimistic until I find out whether or not these new players are any good in training .

Yes we're skint because the old board has pished our reserves down the drain on shit footballers crap managers and directors of football and concert tickets for their friends and bloody families.

Surely not. The guy would've killed our club with his crooked actions. Still involved with the south stand group which is why he still seems to swan about as if he owns the place. Should never be allowed in the place again.

A lot less than we should have due to a former director that's for sure.

He's had 6 months to get a tune out of that lot and yet they got pumped in their last league game by queen of the south the only team with a worse record than them in the league and then beat over two legs by a queen's park side even we managed to draw with a few weeks ago.

If you sign sibbs you need to ensure you have the guys in midfield that will do the running for him and do the dirty work to allow him to play. That's been our main issue for a few seasons now.