kvz2000

Not an easy task and this makes no sense but for you ......ROT RAVISHER .......

Definitely down south where the media are owned by millionaires who help finance the Tory government, meanwhile up here our FM and government get a terrible time

Another reason to demand an enquiry , apparently Doncaster set the terms on how he would be interviewed and by whom !!!! The BBC ( biased media ) should have told him to do one and they should have set the terms and if he didn’t like it then so be it , they could have put out a statement saying he refused to be interviewed....the whole thing has been scripted to make him look good ..

Very good , I think you’ve too much time on your hand , I know have to try and find one for you , could be a new thread

Well said

Not sure that’s correct or it does not apply to the SPFL as they are not a company , whatever it is so wrong to have such a strange rule that strangely enough suited the SPFL , apparently there is not a yes no option , it’s agree or abstain! which could render the vote void. if as I’ve read it’s a for the motion or abstain then why did clubs vote yes and no ? The whole thing is amateurish and an embarrassment to anyone connected with Scottish football , we must have a detailed enquiry to sort out this mess , funny how so many seem happy just to let this debacle go unchallenged. Doncaster’s latest comments are not that of someone happy for the truth to be made available via an enquiry ...

See my previous post re Ayr wishing to chance vote , will you now open your eyes and ears and take in what is being said about the shambles of the way vote was rushed through with the bride of financial payment ..... have you read Doncaster’s latest statement it’s terrible and looks like they have lots to fear ,,,

Was their vote a fair vote or a stitch up like ours , more and more info coming out that that must result in a full enquiry

Your example looks a bit weak now following Ayr chairman stating that he asked to change their vote from a Yes to a No but told not allowed , how on earth can we have a governing body that have rules that say you can change a vote from no to yes but not the other way ......any club that doesn’t back an external enquiry should hang their heads in shame .....

You f*ck off ya clown ..... as previously stated what if it’s found that the vote has been compromised....

Great idea , but if your going to include playing games to decide , then other games should be played too , Raith v Falkirk for example , and games teams have in hand ...

Okay , I apologise....

They don’t , three leagues have teams at the top but NOT champions just as the leagues have teams at the bottom but NOT relegated.

Null and void will be the final outcome ......

Surely football means more than wishing a club relegated just because we are not close to the central belt , Stranraer are the 3 rd oldest club in Scotland and we work with the lowest budget in the league , we have to contend with the huge difficulties in being a rural club and with not a huge support yet we have been a very successful club thanks to the amazing work of our Chairman , committee , players and fans , we have survived in league 1 for many years , with some great spells .... and achievements, surviving in league 1 is a huge achievement in its own ..... we are also a very friendly club that always make our rivals most welcome , we have strong links to with community and do some wonderful work with schools and disadvantaged kids . Such a pity you have the views you have from your lofty position and I’m just glad I don’t share them ......

I love it , all of a sudden Clyde fans are paying attention , you were one of the untouched teams not caring about relegating teams before playing all games but now it’s a totally different scenario....... I’m fed up saying that all league 1 teams need to stick together and help each other’s case , we are stronger together and vote together until we get a decent resolution for us all

It’s funny how teams are happy to end the league early and relegate the bottom team even if they had a chance of avoiding the drop, BUT when all of a sudden they might be affected it’s toys out the prom and shouts of “it’s no fair “

What a terrible way to view things , Stranraer going down anyway is nonsense, so many things were happening with our team that avoiding bottom spot was a real possibility( players coming back from injury , game in hand , majority of remaining games at home , Games against the teams around us ) Your view and the rest of the Raith supporters is a prime example of how things will never get sorted fairly , you would have the complete opposite view if you were in our position , it’s such a shame that so many football fans act and think like morons and their hatred for some clubs just shows football in a poor light ...

I haven’t mentioned reconstruction or suggested what the best way forward is , but for a start it is essential for every club to vote for a full investigation into the way the SPFL have handled things , our SPFL are a laughing stock they have no credibility and absolutely no trust , they are the reason we are in this situation by steam rolling their plan through instead of taking time and considering every option or waiting to see how long the lockdown lasts.

I don’t think I said that I agreed with Hearts involvement in fact it shows my distrust in the way things are being run ( just bribe anyone that stands against your proposals ) and why there must be a proper investigation. It’s sad that enough clubs can’t stand together and oppose any plan that disadvantages any club due to calling an end to the season early ..

I know , I just feel like many do that something rotten and underhanded went on with the vote and I think it should be fully scrutinised and the internal investigation just amplifies my feelings . How can people say all is okay and Deloitte found nothing wrong when we know that the SPFL used a financial incentive to vote the way they wanted , lost a crucial vote , announced how clubs had voted before vote was closed ...it stinks .... but because some hate Rangers they are prepared to stick their heads in the sand

I don’t agree , the league has been finished early and as such final placings are not fair on anyone , it’s not reconstruction just to save hearts it’s to prevent teams from being unfairly disadvantaged.

Rangers have said they will release their evidence to other clubs prior to any further meetings so I see no issue with that , no one would put on public display their case for the other side to see and give them the chance to cover up or remove any traces of wrong doing , reading between the lines I feel you are more against the fact it’s Rangers that’s standing up for a proper investigation than the reasons for it , if you can’t rise above your dislike or hatred for certain clubs then we are lost as a footballing family , what if your club were calling for this investigation I guess you might have a different view .

There already has been an independent investigation by Deloitte which didn't find anything that broke the SPFL rules. It was an internal investigation NOT and external one ,

Taking your own self interest out of this , which appears not to be possible , Every club should be backing Rangers in having an external independent enquiry into how our SPFL have handled the vote , then we can move on . Surely we must have clarity on the way the vote was set out , we know that a financial incentive was attached if clubs voted the way the SPFL wanted ( which is wrong ) we know conversations were made between the SPFL and Dundee even after Dundee voted against the plan , we are told the NO was lost which I find difficult to believe for such a important issue , when Dundee said they had sent their vote surely the SPFL had someone capable of checking their email/WhatsApp files .. Further it is not acceptable for the SPFL to release how clubs had voted while the vote was still in progress , so we have to ask if all the above has been accepted as fact what else has gone on that we don’t know about ....Scottish Football Clubs must put their own interests aside and have a proper enquiry , I read that Rangers already have enough support to have and EGM held where clubs will vote for a proper investigation, why would any club not support this ...... Fairness , Integrity and honesty must prevail , I can’t understand how Doncaster and others are still in position with what we know and if clubs don’t stand together it will be swept under the carpet and they will claim their huge salaries and manipulate things to suit themselves,