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  1. Strip Clubs are places where young women use their sexual power to milk men of their money - I'm fine with that. By way of contrast, Scottish Councils not only license but also on occasion promote boxing events featuring half naked men trying to inflict brain damage on each other for the public's entertainment. That is apparently to be encouraged but strip clubs are to be closed. It's a strange World.
  2. There was a genuine rivalry between the clubs dating back to the promotion race in 1974/75 which then lasted through the wilderness years for both clubs in the 80's up to another promotion battle in 1991/92. I remember Thistle Fans chanting for years of hatred for the legendary "Killie Fat Boy" but as already mentioned Thistle don't have real rivals - the Old Firm don't care about us and we have never bothered much about Clyde...maybe if Queens Park continue to progress we could develop a rivalry to be Glasgow's most sophisticated football supporters. Despite Kilmarnock being a considerably more successful club over recent years, Thistle still have a clear lead in head-to-head matches. There have been some strange sequences of results between the sides. Thistle went 16 games undefeated at Rugby Park between 1972 and 1984 including five successive 1-0 wins. Thistle have not beaten Kilmarnock at Firhill in 12 games since 2002 - this will include several games under Alan Archibald when we typically completely outplayed the opposition before conceding very late penalties or own goals. I don't mind Killie but don't really care for Tommy Wright's tedious but effective brand of football.
  3. This Saturday is the 50th Anniversary of the most sensational result in Scottish Football History - Alan Rough played a part in newly promoted Thistle's 4-1 League Cup Final over Jock Stein's Celtic featuring several Lisbon Lions and Dalglish, Lou Macari, David Hay and George Connolly. He won two Championship Winners Medals for Thistle teams which absolutely strolled the Second Tier. Alan Hansen and Mo Johnston also played for Thistle in the second tier when they were youngsters - like Roughie, they were clearly light years above this level...and all three are way better than just about every player named in this thread. Alan Rough won 53 Scottish Caps, played in two World Cups, saved Scotland from a drubbing in the Maracana and nutmegged Kevin Keegan at Hampden. It's a bit bizarre that the suggestion that he might improve our current squad is being queried by someone who has nominated players who were not even household names in their own homes.
  4. Thistle had to have a 10,000 SPL compliant Stadium by 31 March of their promotion season - they had to make the investment on the Stadium in advance as they were specifically told they would otherwise not be promoted. Inverness were not willing or able to make the required investment on their Stadium and it was generally expected that they would not be promoted. It took two votes and then simply disregarding the Stadium rule for the Cartel's Agenda to succeed. As now, Thistle had been the author of their own misfortune in finishing bottom by appointing a hopeless Manager in Gerry Collins. They also were at a disadvantage as in addition to Stadium costs they ran a balanced budget and couldn't compete for players with the other Clubs, six of whom went into Administration.
  5. So the Cowdenbeath & Elgin Boards sat down and thought - we have no chance of catching Cove, Edinburgh City are much better than us, Queens Park are just behind us and we might not make even make the play-offs but we will turn down immediate cash in the Bank and take the chance that we might fluke an unlikely promotion. I suspect that the Boards of these Clubs took a pragmatic view and understood about a realistic chance of getting promoted even if you don't.
  6. Cowdenbeath & Elgin were 27 & 25 points respectively behind Cove, 15 & 13 points behind Edinburgh City and were just ahead of Queens Park- that's hardly clubs with a realistic chance of going up - getting guaranteed money in the bank wqs a much better option.
  7. In the initial vote, the SPFL presented the clubs with the chance to end the season and receive money - this was a huge advantage to some clubs (Hamilton, Ross County, St Mirren, QoS, Alloa, Raith Rovers, Brechin,) and for most of the others they got cash in the Bank. Why would they vote against this? Would they have accepted 14-10-10 -10 if they had been presented with this as the only option at the time? i'm not aware of any clubs with realistic play-off promotion prospects who voted to accept the original proposal other than Dundee (who also voted against) and Ayr (whose Chairmen suggested that they had been blackmailed). I've heard Neil McCann, Chris Sutton, Stuart Cosgrave, Tam Cowan, Chick Young and the Chief Executives of Aberdeen and Hamilton comment on the extreme unfairness of Thistle being relegated - none of them have any bias. The bigger picture is that none of the other clubs care because it doesn't affect them.
  8. Hearts are being given the opportunity to play their remaining games if possible...their League position is therefore not final...Hamilton, St Mirren or Ross County could finish in the automatic relegation spot or escape the risk of a play-off game...on what basis is the prize money being paid out?
  9. That's a harsh assessment. In fairness, Italy started poorly, qualifying from their group with 3 draws & 2 goals but they stepped up their game from there. With a world class display of defensive thuggery, Gentile only needed 23 fouls to subdue Maradona as Italy sorted out Argentina. They then beat Brazil 3-2 in the second most dramatic game I have ever watched to qualify from a very tough group. They triumphed in the Final over perhaps the most despicable International Side ever- a very dour West German side who fixed their game with Austria so they both qualified and then brutalised the brilliant French side in the semi final - the most dramatic game I have ever watched - with Schumacher's assault on Battiston a real lowlight. A squad with Zoff, Baresi , Bergomi, Antognoni & Rossi can hardly be classified as ordinary...and Marco Tardelli's goal celebration in the Final was quite definitely World Class. I wouldn't disagree with your view on the 2006 side.
  10. Perhaps Jim Traynor or someone else from Sevco could appear on Sportsound to defend their banning a journalist from their Stadium for reporting that Rangers Supporters had been arrested for alleged sectarian chants. They have not shown any interest in taking up the opportunity to respond since 2016.
  11. I think Thistle went something like 63 successive games in the Premiership without being awarded a penalty...nobody knew who our designated penalty taker was...astonishingly the sequence was ended by a soft penalty award against Celtic!
  12. Most Thistle fans have a realistic assessment of Alan Archibald's time as Manager - he did well but lost the plot latterly. To compare him adversely with Lambie is bizarre:- Loyalty - Lambie left Thistle twice, once for Hamilton then Falkirk. League Position - the two lowest League finishes in the Club's History were in 1998/99 & 1999/2000 - 8th then 5th in the Second Division - Lambie was the manager, albeit in the first of those seasons he took over late on. Cup Record - Thistle have been awful in all Cups since Bertie Auld was in charge - apart from one Cup Semi-Final, Lambie record was very poor with a home defeat against a Cowdenbeath side which hardly won a game that season a particular low point. Signings - Higgy, Cerny, Erskine, Taylor,Osman & Barton(first season) were very good signings....Lambie's strength was getting great performances from journeymen professionals...none of them had transfer re-sale values....Henry, Lindsay & Fitzpatrick were sold for decent transfer fees whereas Lambie barely had a young player who was a first time regular Archie was sent off for head-butting Dougie Imrie ( a gentleman footballer but not a youth player) and I understand that Lawless indicated that he would not re-sign for the Club . But apart from that Mr Jacker is spot on.
  13. It's only fair to highlight Motherwell's Stellar role in that fiasco - they were in Administration the previous season, finished bottom of the League but were saved from relegation by the operation of the 10,000 seat Stadium Rule. Their Administrator was nonetheless able to offer better deals to two of Thistle's best players (Steven Craigan & Alex Burns)...we also lost Alan Archibald, Scott Paterson and Martin Hardie because our Board, exclusively in that League, tried to operate a balanced budget. We didn't help our cause by appointing the hapless Gerry Collins as manager. In their promotion season, Thistle had to have a compliant stadium by March - they wouldn't have been promoted if the Building work hadn't been completed by that deadline. Good luck to Inverness but these rules were waived for them. It suited Aberdeen, Hearts & Hibs to abandon the Stadium Rule - Thistle unlike Motherwell were not part of the Cartel and could readily be sacrificed. Shameless Motherwell voted to relegate us. With regard to Saturday's Game, well I was sure that Kris Doolan would score on his return to Firhill with Ayr and was quietly pleased when he did...I am almost as certain that Myles Storey will score at least one but I won't be applauding...in fairness Storey always tried and never hid but he was the most frustrating player I have ever seen for Thistle.
  14. The border did run across the park at Shawfield though I don't think it was on the halfway line...my old Dad used to tell me the story of the player who hit a shot from Rutherglen and scored in Glasgow. Another myth is that Clyde's home attendances slumped when they moved from Shawfield to Cumbernauld...I believe there was no great difference in the average attendances for the years immediately before and after.
  15. I took a short detour to visit the truly unremarkable little town of Glasgow, Virginia. Spookily, the song playing on the car radio as I drove past the town sign was Simple Minds "Don't you forget about me" There was also a Historic Marker Sign denoting the site of the first recorded skirmish between New World Settlers and Native American Indians...probably started by "What are you looking at?"
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