Theyellowbox

Had totally forgotten this guy even existed. Joins the list of players like Mark Campbell, John Henry and Neil Janczyk that I know played for us, but I have zero recollection of.

Yes, 3 times in last decade, but aside from my own side, the ones that stand out are the '91 final as it had everything, pre during and post match. The Utd '94 win as it was massive for them and against a very very good rangers side and the Killie win v Falkirk at it was so refreshing to see 2 provincial clubs fight it out and not being at Hampden added to it. I think having won both the league and Scottish cups has given a feeling that we can/will do it again, obviously, but seeing ICT, County and Livi doing it too should give every club hope, even the smaller ones like Morton, QOS and Dundee.

For me, it's good management. He knows both players probably most of any in the squad, so will know what kind of boot they need. Neither for me, especially Max, can gave any arguments about not starting. Some others need calling out to be fair, but slightly different situations as these two are still (for now) here for next season, whereas you call out others who will soon be out of contract, they might down tools and we need all of them for the run it. Players need to step up and realise the club is in a massive risk of going down and do they (especially the Scottish ones,) want to be the ones to break the long streak we have been on in top flight? For what it's worth, I don't think we go down even if we finish 11th (I don't think we'll finish 11th) as I think Utd will win the championship and we'd take Raith in the same way we beat ICT reasonably comfortably.

100% this. Don't want hark back to the Wright days, as in some ways player v player comparisons are clouded by rose tinted specs a bit, but, what Wright was able to do was only focus on either direct replacements or upgrades in a few areas, not the mammoth overturn we have had of late. That allowed him to focus better on what was needed. He knew he had a core of players he could build a team around and what would work well with the players he already had.

Not having Phillips contribute much in terms of goals and assists would be fine if he was the midfield disrupter and others were getting the goals and assist, but we have all our current midfielders not contributing enough to goals. Phillips, Max and Smith, (could even throw in Crawford and MacPherson) are all decent technical footballers, but offer way way to little in terms or real offensive contributions. Possibly unfair on Philips as he breaks things up and Smith does try to get the ball forward, but generally, the are not contributing enough. I'll be proved wrong with stats I'm sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if our midfield have net backwards and sideways passes vs forward and if it is positive to the forward, it won't be by much.....

Phillips will be a miss only if the squad stays as crap as it is. Decent player looking better as he is surrounded by utter dross. Think he'd be a good signing for Hearts/Aberdeen/Hibs to be fair. Probably only leaves 3/4 players left in current squad that I'd be bothered if we lost.

Probably not his place to comment on how good or bad the squad is either way. However, have to keep in mind that we have new owners waiting to come in and he will be wanting to make sure there is not too much negativity around the current squad. The more the silence goes on re the new owners, the more I think that they seem genuinely interested, but also more or less confirms to me thst any sale is dependent on us staying in the top flight.

Pretty much where I am too. I cannot identify with any of the players. Just seems no heart or fight in any of them. Not something you'd ever have been able to say for the last 15 years. Unless the new owners come in shake things up on and off the pitch, then even if we do stay up, fans will just not bother.

Personally, as a non Dundee fan, I really want to see this built. Obviously still would want Dundee to lose on the pitch, but I'd rather see all of our clubs thriving off it and much better for home and away fans going to a properly configured modern stadium. Yes, there will be loses from dens in terms of history and character, but for me, far outweighed by the benefits it would bring. Not an expert on planning in Dundee, but I cannot see that there should be any massive barriers there to it bring build. Not really near houses and if a new access of the Kingsway is made, bar for an hour or so every other Saturday it will not have a massive impact surely. I do have some scepticism as to whether the thing actually materialises any time soon. Not because I don't think the owners want it or anything, but its been mooted for such a long time, like other stadiums (Aberdeen being the big comparison), that until there is spades in the ground folk will be cautious.

I think when you saw his face and body language after his couple of mistakes vs Livi, he knows he is done and I'd be amazed if he isn't retired or drops divisions in the summer.

To be fair, he can't really say much else. He cannot really come out and slam the quality of the squad when they are still in a relegation battle. Also, with prospective owners in the wings, wouldn't look great if current CEO basically says we are sh!te. I'd be amazed if some of the current squad get new contract offers. Provided we are, as soon as we are mathematically safe, contracts will get offered and I'm pretty sure the new owner(s) will be confirmed. Whether the like of Phillips will sign is another matter, but nothing will happen pre that. Little risk as there isn't many you'd be gutted to lose tbh.

Have we not got growing lamps too. If nothing else, the goalmouth should be getting them used on them.

Saints were the usual pish. Midweek clearly a blip. I suppose the only positive is that we have enough battle to get a draw out of that game. Livi, ooft. Game was there for the taking, but in a way, the antics to break the game up worked against them. Livi fans seem decent folk, but I doubt anyone will miss the club from the top flight. Bit surprised after Saints equalised Livi didn't go looking for a win. A point does nothing much for Livi tbh. That pitch though! Don't think we use it for youth games etc, so how does it get so much worse week to week?

As much as Galloway is a total cretin, more people elected him MP for Rochdale than elected Sunek as PM. I suspect no one really buys this whole moderate let's all be friends bolox from Sunek. Believable if he hadn't been leading a party which is full of racists and bigots. Tonight was just another piece of the whole culture wars rhetorical BS that some clever spad will be dreaming up as the tories only way to avoid a total wipeout at the GE.

Ditto. The mental thing is that a competent Lib Dem should be absolutely cleaning up in this GE, but they are just so meh and offer nothing in the way of alternatives. If someone could do a Macron and create a real centralise party that doesn't have the baggage of others, they'd clean up.

Whilst this result is notable in its own right, there is an element of folk using it as a massive protest vote, safe in the knowledge there a GE coming soon. However, it might also point to something a bit new in UK politics. In some seats, you will have this shift to 'far left?' Or however you want to define Galloway and in others, you will get a shift to the far right. Will all be local and locational. For all the current Tory part are touring the far right and Corbyns Labour courted the far left, neither party really want the extremes to gain momentum. Probably makes the case for proportional representation stronger. People will still feel they can vote for parties that are smaller and marginal and that their voices are heard (however much we might not want to hear some) and you wouldn't get extreme results like last night.

Saints had a gameplan, applied it well and had fight. That will see you right in most games. Polar opposite for Aberdeen. Looks to me that Aberdeen players don't realise they are in a relegation battle. Maybe not straight down, but playoffs real possibility. If nothing else, other teams seeing what Beji can do when he gets in behind defences means they have to react and sit deeper, which gives us more space.

Yes, he will start to go defensive, which would be a mistake. Our best defence tonight is to attack. Convinced we will conceed, so need to get a 2nd before we go defensive.

The line up doesn't exactly clear it up. Could by Kjeltens or could be Jayiesemi..... probably Clark then.

I'm sure there is plenty of clues around to who it is, but I haven't heard any names at all!

I know we've not be great for maybe four seasons, but....

It's been a while since the news on potential new owners. Anyone done some sleuthing to get names etc? Lot of Lawyers in states, so that doesn't narrow it down much.

Not that I want to be that guy, but you do have to look at Leveins losses in context. Bar the disaster vs Airdrie, all have been vs top 6 sides (Rangers x2, Hearts x2, Celtic, Killie, St Mirren and Dundee). With those Killie, St Mirren and Dundee games being away from home. It's not great, but if you want to be losing against sides, better that than those around you.

I can accept that we have a pretty poor squad compared to where we have been, but I cannot accept the total lack of fight in that team. There is no one out there who seems aggressive or passionate enough. Right now, I'd happily see the back of the lot of them. There is no one in there with any degree of creativity. So many times we get up the park and rather than be offensive turn back and eventually it ends up back with Mitov and the ball is booted up the park and lost.