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Pretty sure they voted with the government.

Thanks for that, never considered it. Presumably that scenario is dependent on the bold Corbyn negotiating your Customs Union compromise with the EU? We really are at the stage of choosing from different variations of shit show.

Nah, that's the Irish Direct democracy is a key point of Swiss politics. They do have referenda on a much more regular basis than we do.

Well let's look at their options (if meaningful vote fails): General Election- Doesn't really solve anything and fixed term parliament act means it needs 70% parliamentary support. Another deal- EU have said they won't budge, May has tried and failed since postponing the initial meaningful vote to renegotiate parts of her deal. Doesn't look good. No deal Brexit- There isn't the support for this in Parliament as shown by the vote yesterday, but it is a default if nothing else happens. I think Parliament would move hell and high water to avoid this scenario. and that leaves us with... 2nd EU Ref. This is far from not having obstacles or questions around it either but imo the most likely outcome.

It doesn’t make Mays deal more likely. It got voted through with a majority of 11, if anything it shows that the idea her deal will get through is pretty fanciful.

So the Gov now need to publish ‘Plan B’ within 3 sitting days (a week) rather than 4 weeks in the event of the Gov losing the meaningful vote. Government arses will be going like the clappers. I’ve been of the opinion for a while that we’re heading to a second EU Ref, but as ever it’s a fool who makes a prediction on these things. The questions with a 2nd EU ref start with, what’s on the ballot paper? How will the inevitable need to extend article 50 tie in with EU elections and the muddy waters that brings? Fun times

Snatties Excellent work Phillip.

The Corbynista here with a new, gentler kind of politics

All looking good on the McCormack front then. Good upgrade to start the window. Can I prematurely welcome him by pointing out that he’s a fat ride.

I saw Defoe play, in person, last season when Bournemouth visited Crystal Palace. He scored 2 (one an absolute screamer) and generally looked sharp as a tack. Even if he has degraded slightly from then he’s a fucking far superior player to most in this league...unfortunately.

At no point watching Joe Chalmers did I think he he had any kind of footballing ability whatsoever. I was amazed he’d made it to professional level. He was then given a Scot U’21 cap and I reasoned that either I didn’t have a clue about football or the world had gone mad.

H_B managing to talk shite on many different levels here. His obscure 10 year old article brought back some wonderful Anthony C Pick memories.

And I already replied to you the reason for it being brought forward. I disagree with it being proposed but it's not in doubt that is has been, which is what i have said. Only a VOC from the official opposition must be called. Any other is at the discretion of the Government.

Btw i'm aware literally no-one is talking about it but a vote of confidence against the Gov was submitted last night...

Mind all that Brexit stuff that time? That was a laugh wasn't it.

I have the same opinion of Labour as I do of the Tories. I have no idea what you are talking about. I never used the term "stupid people".

I've watched it loads and I still can't clearly make out what he says. For me it's far from conclusive. Also (i'm willing to be convinced on this btw) is that really that sexist? I mean, she is a woman and he thinks shes stupid, it's not as if he thinks shes stupid because shes a woman. My mum calls me a silly boy all the time, is she being sexist and ageist?

And with that it's back to post Brexit armageddon.

An apologist for sexism, get a grip. Its deflection tactics of the highest order and you’re a stupid man () if you can’t see that.

So am I an apologist or politically naive now? I’m not sure. You seem quite confused over this.

Ha if you look at my posts I am far from a apologist for Corbyn. I can’t stand the guy. I am willing to bet you didn’t watch the exchanges. The Tories were a disgrace

1. I’m not convinced he did say it. 2. Far worse gets said in Parliament on a daily basis. Its a farce and the way they have treated the speaker is pretty deplorable. To make complaints around respect and acceptable language by loudly jeering and haranguing someone who is trying to do their job is hypocritical beyond belief.

Parliament in melt down at the moment because Corbyn called May a ‘stupid woman’. The Tories really do have some brass neck.

Anyone see Paul Slane on Si Ferry’s Christmas opengoal thing? f**k...ing...hell

Keep an eye on things tomorrow. As I say it’s more about pushing Labour to back a 2nd Ref.