Rjc-1988
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40 minutes ago, qos_75 said:
The board downed tools years ago. Bad decision after bad decision. I am delighted they are going at the end of the season. It can’t come soon enough. All the shit they have left us in both on and off the park will be their legacy.
The first job of the incoming board will surely be to sack Bartley and his staff.
It is very difficult to know if McLindon is to be the main man or whether he will support others. No matter what the composition of ownership is the task is a huge one. First priority is to work out our status - PT,FT or hybrid. No matter the set up Bartley has to go asap. Have seldom seen such overall condemnation of any Manager’s tenure from the supporters.
As for the playing staff - very few I would keep. Stone and/or Botterill, Brydon, McLelland, Todd, Kennedy(should have been playing this season in my view), Reilly, Mimnaugh. Add in some of the more promising youngsters. No point in mentioning Lewis as his Dad will ensure that he moves out asap.
Some of the other “regulars” have had endless opportunities to prove their worth and continually fail to deliver so they have to go if we can move them on. If not we’re stuck with them.
Just hope new owners are presiding over a L1 outfit not a L2 outfit?
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8 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:
Think this is extremely harsh on Gibson. Had a look through their comparative stats:-
McKechnie - 19 starts, 1 assist, 2 goals.
Gibson - 10 starts, 7 assists, 2 goals.
I'll also add that Gibson has only had 3 starts in a row all season*. How on earth is an 18 year old supposed to get into a rhythm when he's barely given a run of games (yet shite like Ferguson continually start and don't improve at all...). Whatever way you want to look at it, Gibson is streets ahead of McKechnie with half the starts and should have been starting far more often than he has. Dress it up any way you want, the blame absolutely does lie at the feet of Bartley. Another useless piece of management from him.
* In the league certainly, never checked the cup games.
It is perhaps a bit harsh on Gibson but don't forget that Father Gibson also deployed him as a Wing Back when he was in charge. I could never understand the rationale behind that when it has been blatantly obvious that Lewis is a player that needs to be doing all his best work in opponents' final third.
I guess his stats are pretty decent when you put it that way and it does highlight just how poor Bartley's decision making has been throughout his tenure. McKechnie's stats confirm just how poor his contribution has been. Add to that he tends to shoot from anywhere even when at a terrible angle and on his very weak left peg. Ferguson's contribution needs no further elaboration - it has all been said.
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18 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:
Gibson clearly has talent and to be fair to him he’s not a wing back but I thought he was awful today.
The much maligned McKechnie offered more in his short period on.
It was a dreadful game of football and it says it all for me that a player I absolutely don’t rate (McKay) was probably our best player.While I think McKechnie has been very poor all season and has had a very generous amount of game time Gibson has not delivered either. He unquestionably has more to offer than McKechnie but when he moves on to pastures new at end of season he will have to seriously up his game. I have been willing him to do well but he has had a season to forget.
Easy to blame Bartley for that but this is L1 and playing against part timers predominantly. If he is the prospect that many predict he is - he should have been capable of a lot more than he has shown.
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It would have been nice to see us go all out for the win that we desperately needed but my sources tell me that it was yet another horrific display from us. Created virtually nothing and relied on the sad fact that Stirling are equally as piss poor as we are. Our Manager is incapable of rallying the troops even in a crisis of this scale.
i get the logical argument saying that we have possibly done enough to avoid ninth BUT I am certainly not counting Annan out of winning at Falkirk. We see crazy results every year at this time of the season and teams with nothing tangible to play suddenly become vulnerable. We have two chances of course to take care of business but it is way past the stage where I would ever pin my hopes on Bartley and his Bottlers. Falkirk may be our best bet but what a terrible admission.
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22 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
He hasn't been given the chance tbf. No one has progressed under Bartley. The guy is completely useless. If Gibson goes you can't blame him. This should have been a big season for his development but he's barely progressed as you say, and that lies firmly at the feet of Bartley IMO.
His father is still a terrific player and is a huge factor in Annan’s resurgence.
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Ironically it is two players who have been shunned by Bartley in recent weeks (in Gibson’s case for most of the season) that dug him and the Club out of a huge hole. We are still in a huge mess but failing to win today would have been disastrous.
Don't get me wrong I don’t think young Gibson has progressed this season the way he should have BUT constantly being overlooked in favour of under-performers like McKechnie is hardly a confidence booster. Also his persistent deployment as a wing back is simply incompetent decision making.
We have a make or break game today where we desperately need to create chances and score goals - he picks McKechnie ahead of Gibson.
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This Comedian has had so many chances to deliver and repeated fails spectacularly.
Sincerely hope the dreaded sucker punch is not about to be delivered.
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McKechnie ahead of Gibson - it really is mistifying but not in the least surprising.
have to hope that they are really poor otherwise we know how this will play out.
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32 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:
Well the day has finally dawned.
I can't believe the moment has actually arrived when Bartley finally gets to pit his managerial wits against the big boys from the capital.
In Bartley's first full season, I think it's fair to say that he's surprised us all with the quality he's brought in, and the performances his young side is capable of delivering.
Today should give us a clear indication of just how successful this season will prove to be for us. It remains to be seen whether we get our just reward for all the ability and application that our team has displayed.
I, and literally dozens of others, can't wait to find out.
It’s frightening that effectively it all comes down to this. Failure to win will be calamitous in the extreme as we anticipate that our play off rivals will see off Edinburgh when they play them.
Having the future of the Club in the hands of Bartley and his Bottlers in a “must win HOME game” gives us all the shakes. Can only hope they deliver for once.
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27 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:
Yes it’s a crucial match. The importance of the match will mean McKay will do even more pointing than usual but little or no actual defending of course.
Yes he’s very good at cajoling others but the basics of defending our box sadly are beyond him. Ambrose is a far better defender than McKay but Manager seems to be singling him out for previous mis-demeanours. Let’s be honest if we were apportioning blame for the predicament we find ourselves in Ambrose would hardly be near the top of the queue compared to some others.
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Very sad to say but the match on Sat is probably the most significant and important in many years. Lose it and I think we finish 9th. Win it and it is a massive step towards safety. A draw is a mini disaster as well.
With the hapless Bartley at the helm, a squad packed full of mediocrity and an in built losing mentality there is no way that we can be confident. Of course we should be seeing off a detached Edinburgh side with nothing to play for but we couldn’t beat them in the last away fixture. In the home match before that we struggled badly and only a brilliant Gibson strike turned the tide in our favour.
Our embarrassing home record tells you all you need to know about the Manager and his squad but we have to hope that for once they deliver when the “chips are really down”.
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3 hours ago, Otis Blue said:
Agree - I think a competent manager/good coach could get a decent tune out of Cochrane, Church and McKechnie. That forward line though, dearie me ...
McKechnie is one of the reasons that we continue to underperform week after week. He gets so much game time that is unfathomable. A wide player who has decent pace but poor touch, no tricks for a winger, no left peg and continually picks the wrong option in the final third. His delivery is so erratic.He wouldn’t be anywhere near my starting 11.
Don’t even start me on Hutchinson…….
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There literally can’t be any one connected with Queens who could conceivably want Bartley to be at our club one minute longer but we are somehow stuck with him. That home record for a FT club in L1 is an unmitigated disaster and an utter embarrassment to all concerned.
The first half today was virtually impossible to do anything other than try and get a 0-0 and wait for the wind advantage. At 0-1 we should have been capable of at least winning the second half but failed miserably - created virtually nothing and having got back to 1-1 conceded a truly dreadful goal following a brilliant save from Stone.
Bartley’s tactics are truly pathetic. He goes with a back 3 in second half and deploys McKechnie as a LWB despite him being “all right foot” and totally out of touch. I thought my day couldn’t get any worse until the Announcer names Kieran McKechnie as MOM. Honestly, you couldn’t make it up………………Todd was the only player who genuinely tried to make things happen for us but got little or no support. Bartley inexplicably shuns players who could actually give us a decent chance of getting out of this self inflicted nightmare - Ambrose, Reilly, Gibson and to a lesser extent McGuffie. Kilsby has been dreadful since joining us- he should have been hooked at HT but the fact that he was our only left footed defender saved him.
We continue to “sleep walk” towards L2 - Manager and players should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
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On 31/03/2024 at 09:08, bod said:
That was a game of the two worst managers.
Bartley didn't learn much from the last game at NDP as once again in the first half Tumilty and Smith had the freedom of your right side as Logan struggled as he played out of position. Thankfully for use Rankin somehow thought it right to remove Smith. Yes Accies had injuries but your subs definitely weakened you in the second half.
As for us we'd definitely have taken a point before ko but the game was there for the taking but Bartley was terrified to change anything incase he lost what he had.
Baffling by both managers.
The deployment of Logan at LWB was baffling to say the least. All the "tell tale" signs were in evidence in the first half - player dis-orientated, drifting to his right, wanting to tackle with his right foot which invariably put him off balance, and ball watching rather than picking up the dangerous Smith: Tumulty combination. All the danger came from our weak left side in the first half and we were fortunate not to lose a couple of goals in that period. Haven't seen the disallowed goal back but I was astounded when it was chalked off but if linesman got that call right it was a brilliant observation.
It was surprising to hear in Bartley's post match interview that Brydon had only trained for a day before the match. When McLelland got injured we had a fully fit Ambrose ready to go on. It doesn't make sense to me to risk Brydon when he is barely fit to play after yet another long term injury. Risk of a re-occurrence must be high in these circumstances, Different if he had been the only possible choice at CB. Personally, I am not getting the problem with Ambrose at all. Manager got away with it on this occasion but for me strange decision making.
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Very sad news about Ches. Was a permanent fixture in the Queens side for almost 20 years. That takes some doing in itself but his goal scoring record is incredible for a defender. 79 goals I think which equates to almost one goal in every 8 games. I recall him being the penalty taker for a while but he also packed a decent shot when he strode forward from his defensive duties. He occasionally played up front.
In the 60s/70s we had four local mainstays in the team - Ballie, Ches, Jimmy Kerr and Billy Collings. All great servants.
RIP - Ches.
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7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
Aye, wing back is a very difficult position to play effectively. Probably the most tiring job on the park so I don't want to be too hard on McKechnie but he was getting a lot of space to play in in the second half and was very wasteful. Can't help but think if Bartley put Gibson on he'd have delivered a couple of decent balls into the box; also thought it was criminal he took Connelly off and kept Doherty on. In a similar vein, he has to start McGuffie ahead of Ferguson surely? McGuffie hasn't an ounce of pace but he holds onto the ball well and usually finds a pass.
If you were picking a team on “ability” McGuffie would be one of first names on team sheet. When he came on last two games you are scratching your head wondering how on earth he doesn’t start……………..then you remember the other games when he is totally anonymous. That said, compared to some of the others he has something to offer.
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Can't remember the last time we left NDP with a point so have to be grateful for that. Accies looked like a team who had nothing to play for today and are waiting for play offs. Game was there to be won and while we had plenty of possession we failed to create any really good chances. Manager's tactical set up certainly handicapped us with Logan mysteriously deployed at LWB and the wasteful McKechnie at RWB. Plenty of endeavour though and our three CBs coped pretty well with the Accies attack. Stone was again very solid and did well particularly in first half when they looked quite dangerous.
Overall, a decent point but with a little more guile we could easily have taken all 3.
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4 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:
Certainly not "the worst footballer I've ever seen" that we were promised. We've had far worse than him. His finishing needs a lot of work and his decision making. He seems set on scoring a worldie rather than look for a pass.
He looks pretty strong and harried the Alloa defence in the first half yesterday. I think it's clear to see he's not 100% fit though. For once I thought Bartley made the right call subbing him (sadly replacing him with the wrong person).
I'm probably right in the middle with him. I don't think he's shite but I also don't think he's as good as some of the opinions on him. I'd say he's ok. Wouldn't be overjoyed if we got him next season and similarly wouldn't be as upset as I was when we got him this season.
To be fair Doherty did really well when he came on yesterday as did McGuffie. Usually Bartley’s changes seriously weaken us but not yesterday - we finished the game quite strongly.
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25 minutes ago, HighlandQueen said:
Thought he was excellent yesterday and we will miss him against Hamilton
Too right we will miss him. Thought we looked a different team when we have a big strong pacy striker who not only held the ball up well but actually pressurised opposition defenders into mistakes. Seemed to chase every loose ball yesterday and his link up play was very decent.
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A much improved performance- for once we attacked, created chances and generally looked dangerous. Mumbongo was excellent and gave us the attacking outlet that has been lacking all season. He chased everything and showed some lovely touches linking the play and holding the ball up. Took his goal well.
Given results elsewhere that was a win we desperately needed but we thoroughly deserved it today. No failures and subs Doherty and McGuffie pepped us up when they appeared. Great finish by McGuffie incidentally.
Hopefully, we can build on that performance but Hamilton away is hardly our ideal fixture. Much better though.
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It would at least be re-assuring to think that our beleaguered Manager might finally set us up to , press the ball competitively when we don’t have it, be on the front foot from the start and get players ahead of the ball and in the opposition penalty box at Alloa. In summary attack from the off signifying our intention to secure an away win that we desperately need.None of the foregoing guarantees anything but it would at least be a belated step in the right direction. The problem, of course, is that while we all know that our Manager is beleaguered and basically completely out of his depth Marvin continues to think that he is in control of things and that this week’s game plan will finally come good. If we can just cut out these defensive lapses………………….” our quality will shine through”!!!!!!
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14 hours ago, Otis Blue said:
Absolutely ... but why does Bartley think he'll be sacked? The bloody board have walked out first. There's nobody left to sack him. What ... a ... bloody ... total ... omnishambles ... of a mess ... L2 is a freakin dead certainty.
Bartley's got an excuse, he's totally out of his depth (although he doesn't know it), but our bloody board ... honestly, the timing of their departure announcement beggers bloody belief ... exactly what did they think would transpire?
In a nutshell he is out of his depth but he doesn’t have the self awareness to realise it.
In management speak - unconscious incompetence. The worst of all traits because if you are consciously incompetent you can at least work round your shortcomings and delegate to others or simply find another job that fits your skill set.
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19 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:
That ship has well and truly sailed. Surely no one who watches this side regularly believes we're finishing higher than 9th?
As I've said, I fully expect the Egomaniac to leave before the playoffs.
That's a peach from the sand dancer tbf!
It hasn’t sailed and there is absolutely no way that the BOD can sit back, watch this all unfold and do absolutely nothing about it. That is a dereliction of duty given the dire consequences that face the club were it to become reality.
He has to be removed or put on immediate “gardening leave”. His removal guarantees nothing in terms of L1 survival but it would give us a much better chance. Make no mistake the future of the club is at stake here .
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Just now, AGPar said:
Is Lee Connelly out of contract in the summer by chance? Just wondering.
Please be careful - he has been relegated with every Scottish team he has played for and this season could be another to add to the cv.
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The Queen of the South thread
in Scottish League 1 General Chatter
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I obviously realise that Stone and McLelland are loanees but it is surely not certain that either will have a future at their respective clubs. If they do and they want to stay as bit part players then that is their call. My point was that we could at least express an interest in them and see if they bite. Probably unlikely but it depends on how positive the parent clubs are about their future prospects.
On the ownership front let’s be honest the only assets are the ground/land and arena. The club in L1 /L2 will leak cash like there’s no tomorrow. The big question is who, if anybody, will prop it up as and when any cash that we still have gets burned?