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where do the clubs get the money if no crowds no shop no hospitality? i accept some clubs have money in the bank [not many] but even these clubs would struggle after a few weeks of no income. if no supporters are allowed the only teams surviving will be be the two or three with "sugar daddies" or the bottom clubs run on a basically amateur status. would you accept this scenario or prefer to wait until it is possible to return to something like normal and allow clubs to survive.

no i wouldn,t do it but where does the money to pay him come from?

is it still the intention to begin non league on 11th october or is it put back three weeks like everything else. i would like other posters opinion but really want something official.

completely agree, until crowds are allowed non league should be postponed . even cost of training let alone covid prevention puts clubs in deep trouble

has this idea been made official or is it still gossip

with regard to players turning up ready, going home after the game i dont think this is feasible. a lot of glasgow based players are with ayrshire teams and a forty mile drive home after playing in a downpour is just not going to happen. also as a/lie1981 says some teams may not be able to keep to the guidelines for whatever reason so how would a league work if a quarter or so of the teams cannot play .i fear it wil have to be all or none

i agree some clubs could manage to cope with restrictions but some wont. how can you have a league competition when some of your opponents will not be able to play. it has to be all or none

i believe there is a zoom meeting at the end of next week to install office bearers etc. when formed the new committee can then proceed to sort out any problems or rule breaches.

as i have said before letting supporters in is not the problem at this level. social distancing in changing rooms , hospitality and refreshments are . without the last two it is impossible to keep clubs solvent as gate receipts are not enough to cover outlay.

if it is by with then the new wosl is dead in the water. they would have lost all credibility and any team could do what they want and use "the darvel" defence

one problem playing outstanding scot cup ties is player registration. players may have moved teams and are inelligible . if your team had signed a player from one of the semi-finalists would they let him return to his former club to play a game or maybe two and risk injury. only way out is to cancel this years cup .

i hate to burst scotty d,s bubble but if you read the rules clubs are responsible for the actions of their supporters

i only asked as the 20 team league came about because three teams were declared champions etc. of the championship and with no relegation it was felt unfair they did not get promoted but if the season was declared null and void they would not be due promotion therefor a 17 team league.

i may have missed it but what happened to the investigation into the null and void decision of the west region and would that have any impact on the 20 team league situation

pretty sure glenafton have retained SJFA membership

ban from west region wont last long. just over three weeks I think

when the leagues were decided on PPG the SFA reluctantly agreed to accept the 20 team league as darvel and Blantyre were being denied promotion, many felt unfairly,. if leagues are null and void they did not win promotion which would allow SFA to return to their preferred 16 team league[plus bonneyton]

I don't know the workings of the furlough scheme but wonder if it applies to part-time workers?

while reading the rantings of the keyboard warriors has been quite amusing and passed some time in these unusual times I think people should calm down and realise that all the shouting in the world wont change the thinking of the SFA or any other body . the real problem is not the make-up of the leagues but that the prospect of any football at all before new year is very unlikely so leagues of 20,17.14 or anything else is irrelevant

maybe the clubs who didn't express an opinion don't care one way or another

how can clubs hold meetings when gatherings are restricted to 10 people

i agree with the post about suspending the decision until after this coronavirus thing is over. as clubs will not be able to hold AGMs.although large meetings are banned the PWG could continue in some way so that when we resume a final agreement could be ready for clubs to then decide

with regard to fines , the player gets fined. some clubs pay the fines some take it of the player. hence my earlier query about amateurs. the membership fee for the sjfa is £35.00 the region around £80.00 also I think the west meeting was to reveal the p w g outcome

the office bearers of the west league will be elected by the members of the league ,if they decide to re-elect anyone it is their decision. on another topic mentioned in this thread, I have long wondered about the legal position of imposing a fine on amateur player who plays for nothing

from a west point of view. the SJFA had a mandate to get all teams into the pyramid, they failed. west region still wanted to join so called a meeting to decide future moves. the west reps. managed to arrange a PWG [partial] meeting where a measure of agreement was reached. if discussions go well the west will join no matter what TJ thinks. after joining talks can be held to clear up any outstanding issues to be decide by majority vote at future meetings, any team that wants can leave and join an organisation of their choice. what is wrong with any of this? I believed the ambition was to have a west league at tier 6 this delivers that ambition.