Mr. Bojangles

I think he said he'd run for leadership, though.

I'm going to assume that must be a fake account, but it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't.

That's what I thought. That was where the surge began. The poll after that was the first time it looked very close.

Really? I could be wrong. When did it open, then? EDIT: I remember my parents saying they had just sent theirs off as soon as it had arrived. I remember us talking about one of the polls showing a massive surge towards yes.

The postal vote opened a day or two after the surge.

What's the rumour? Went back a couple of pages and didn't see anything (though I am prone to selective blindness).

Yeah, it was an American author who named his book that.

I recorded and just started watching the BBC News thing between Danny Alexander and Humza Yousef (with young people). Danny Alexander just flashed a new one pound coin that he said is coming out in 2017 and he didn't want to be the only Scot to ever hold it as legal tender. How do they come up with this shit? It's incredible.

That would make more sense.

Really? Higher odds, and there's apparently been more put on yes than no according to oddschecker. (Actually just checked and it's the popularity of the bets rather than the £'s)

They'll be paying out a lot if it's a yes. Pretending it's already over to get people disheartened wouldn't be a terrible strategy.

Well....part of the yougov poll asked if I'd ever used illegal drugs, who my dealer was, how often I use them etc. I could completely understand being a shy yes in that circumstance. But for the referendum in an online poll? Nah. Doesn't make sense.

Don't know when it'll be out, but I just did a new Yougov poll.

I have to apologise. I didn't believe you so I went to check. Unbelievable.

Which, ironically, was one of the main causes of the Great Depression.

Why are people even replying to that loon? He's turning this into a discussion about the effect of the media instead of the neck and neck poll that was released.

It's probably just as well there is a poll with no in the lead. Things were getting a bit too congratulatory amongst us and in the media (well, they were acting like yes had already won).

It includes responses from yesterday? I can't imagine they would be ready to release it at 10:30am. I know most of the calculation is done by computer, but they'll still need to check it over.

Yeah, that doesn't seem to add up to what I've seen. Then again, I haven't seen much other than the area around Inverness and Thurso.

I know people who have switched from undecided to yes, no to undecided and no all the way to yes. Pretty much the entire spectrum, so it probably is a little simplistic. Still don't know anyone who has switched in the opposite direction, though. Which come to think of it is pretty bizarre. Still do know plenty of no's though.

I can't remember. I had a discussion about this a long while ago. It makes little difference in a binary question which way you go (0.5% swing in the most outlandish political poll circumstances).

I was about to say that I didn't believe the poster is real, but then I remembered them equating Yes voters with terrorism/terrorist sympathisers.

Excluding don't knows just means you subtract them from the poll because you can't be sure which way they'll go. It's pretty standard, and was the basis of the Yougov poll from Sunday. He was wondering how many had decided on each side (unless I've completely missed his point).

Just watching Alexander talking on BBC News. I've never seen such a lot of shite in all my days. Labour believe their proposals will be well accepted by the other parties, and they'll all agree, so there's no need to worry about what we're actually offering. Because it's what people want. We'll tell them what they want, and they'll think it's great.

For example it could be 40 yes, 40 no, 20 DK.