Arthur Stramash

Pars fans, ignore the taunting of the petty, small-minded, bitter quintessential fools who now follow one of the Sevco's (though nobody actually one knows which Sevco) after their club's demise and liquidation. Fight the good fight, keep hope alive.

Great posts Paquis and Cliche Guevara regarding the blog piece. Enjoyed reading your views and the spirit in which you expressed them. The blog was fascinating for me because of the way the writer agreed with the legal result even though he is in principle opposed to the outcome. But also the way he pointed out how unusal it was for a dissenting opinion to fill more than half of the judgement. There is probably is a lot more to come and, as someone pointed out, if these are are now judged to have been genuine loans then they can perhaps be recalled. That would put upward of £40m in the pot for the creditors of oldco and may just see the debts paid. I expect most Rangers fans would like to see that happen. I believe Murray got £6m and someone like Campbell Ogilvie £90,000. Neither of these two gents are short of a bob or two so what a terrific gesture it would be for them to set an example and pay back their loans. They might start the ball rolling. If these loans were paid back voluntarily by the recipients - and not litigated back via BDO - it would be an act almost worthy of 5 stars on the royal blue jersey.

I think he's a retired legal type who understands the language that the judgement is written in. He's made some very perceptive contributions to various blogs. Stuart Cosgrove mentioned him once on Off the Ball. I doubt if anyone in the press could pen a piece as thoughtful and nuanced as this. Yes, not all is as it seems at first glance.

Very interesting piece on the tax case decision: http://broganrogantrevinoandhogan.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/the-hoover-the-runaways-and-a-judicial-nod-is-as-good-as-a-wink-on-the-rangers-tax-case/

Wow, it's like that match was played in Switzerland. Home crowd booing Murray? No wonder he wanted out of there. Okay, Federer did good. Bravo Roger. Murray's second tournament indoors this year certainly didn't go well, hasn't served all week. But home support?

Finally, a journalist who dares tell it like it is. Bravo.

I believe that is exactly what happened, although for limbo I would use the term non-existence. Otherwise Rangers would have transferred to Rangers which, as someone as pointed out, is simply not possible. The only hope for the original club and its history (that I can see) is if the liquidators nullify the administration and sale by Duff & Phelps. On the face of it there appears to have been enough dodgy dealing for this to happen. The whole argument of the Blue Knights towards the end was that unless the CVA route was open then the historical continuity would be lost. It was the only chance to save the club. To get around this Duff & Phelps appear to have convinced Green that they've sold him Rangers' history - well, minus the historic debt. But perhaps Green did not need much convincing. He'd been sniffing around for a long time, there's also rumours that he was somehow in league with Whyte. He certainly had an easier time doing a £1 (or was it £2?) deal with Whyte than the Knights. It appears Charlie was Whyte's chosen as were Duff & Phelps. But that must all be totally co-incidental, surely? The rule-bending by the SFA to accomodate Green's Sevco company and pretend that it's still Rangers is muddying the waters. It may also backfire on Charles Green if he is accused of merely phoenixing Rangers, along with others, as a tax dodge. To be honest, to the man in the street, it looks very much to be exactly that. But if this stands, and the liquidators cannot or will not do anything to recompense creditors, then there is nothing to stop any debt-ridden club in the UK going into administration, hiring helpful administrators - who do not necessarily put creditors first - and when an impossible CVA is rejected, have someone ready to buy the assets + history at an unusually-low knock-down price, and Bob's your uncle. After which, of course, the admins pay themselves a large chunk of dosh, courtesy of the creditors. Nice work, if you can get it (and avoid jail).

Did they actually tell you that they had not been appointed as the forthcoming liquidators? I understood that the prize money was actually withheld because of old Rangers outstandng debts to several Scottish clubs. And that seems to have put the cat among the European pigeons as Rapid want their outstanding Jelavic cash. And there's the creditors pot which seems rather empty. You'd have thought D&P could have got a fair few quid for the players who ended up out of contract. Davis, McGregor, Naismith, and the others could have brought in at least £5m to the pot. I reckon D&P may have some serious questions to answer.

This was reported on June 13 regarding those non-appointed liquidators for old Rangers:

Chardy played great. Shortened the points, was aggressive and it worked. He played very well the previous match too. Murray was spraying shots and looked less than up for it. Looked windy on the fast court. But if he'd got to 5-5 it may have tipped back in his favour. Probably better losing to Chardy now than to one of the other top seeds later.

Otherwise the app TuneIn Radio is good. Usually works fine and the pay version lets you record programmes. At the moment only some BBC stations stream without the guy with the annoyng voice. Must be Olympic broadcast rights or something that blocks foreign IPs.

This shouting all began as the Olympics started. Hopefully the BBC will stream again after.

A lot of us are waiting for the answer to that. The massive tax dodge and the stiffing of creditors associated with the dumping of the old and the creation of new Rangers looks criminal. Very little to be proud of if you've ever followed the club. Who knows, the thing might fold by Christmas or the liquidators take some drastic action? After all, Green and Duff & Phelps look to have walked off with the valuables that could have been sold to pay outstanding debts.

The point was about Gers fans apparently enjoying Dundee United's difficult draw. Something which is kind of pathetic on their part. Every Scots team that loses in Europe lessens other club's chances of European football. Those fans who enjoy seeing a loss for DU, Well, Saints, or Celtic this season should realise that those losses affect all of Scottish football. Countries like Scotland can lose automatic entry into Euro cups.

It's the way most us feel I reckon, apart from the few who get greater pleasure from seeing others lose than their own team winning If that's true about the ex-Gers forums they will only alienate proper football fans from their cause even more, if that's possible.