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8 hours ago, bravehearts dad said:
So another Scottish cup campaign starts today away at Sauchie. By my reckoning this is our 5th consecutive Scottish cup away draw, but that doesn’t matter it gives us fans a good day out. Look forward to my trip to Clackmannanshire and we can return with a much needed victory and be in the hat for the next round draw which is on Monday I believe.
C’mon The Rose
Well.
that didn’t quite go to plan.
I think it’s a turning point, and we might see a few changes. The change to “league” club has been a challenge, and we’re going to need to push forward or go backwards.
Off the pitch, the committee have done their part. On the pitch now needs to step up and do their part too.
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Saturday was a sore one, once upon a time we competed with the big teams in Fife like Kelty, now we’re getting beat by diddy teams like East Fife.
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11 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said:
So the indicative vote was in fact indicative of surrender. A travesty of a League where results can count or not count, where a team can finish fourth and be declared champions, a pyramid where other B teams ( Hibs, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Dundee United, Hamilton, Partick, Cove, Kelty ?) can have an application accepted after an "indicative" vote. A sham and a scam.
And two teams could be relegated despite not finishing in the bottom 3. Really, this is dreadful for the lowland league.
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12 hours ago, edinabear said:
Think Hibs b team will come in to balance the league
Not next season, hibs have a games programme for their development team next season.
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39 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
It's possible for 2023/24. I wouldn't get any hopes up.
- Threave Rovers join the WoSFL this summer
- Gretna 2008 maybe Dalbeattie Star try to change their relegation league.
- Some in the SoSFL consider applying to the WoSFL for 2023/24.
- The Lowland League swings in favour of opening up increased promotion/relegation to Tier 6.
There's a discussion to be had.
I wish I could foresee a set of circumstances that encouraged that?
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15 hours ago, Glenconner said:
Guessing the old ex Juniors from the West will end up bossing this cup.
I’m not sure they will.
the priority for the top clubs is winning the wosfl, and the lowland league. This cup despite its great entry doesn’t hold the same appeal (for now) that the junior cup once did.
Bit of a pity that, but, with so many clubs now competing in the big scottish that’s much more of a second priority.
Hopefully we get a rationalized single National cup for tier 5 or tier 6 down.
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9 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Not surprised. You would have been looking at 5000 or so for a junior cup final between these clubs in the not too distant past but giving a cup a south branding just doesn't resonate the same way. Hopefully the blazers knock the junior vs senior stuff on the head and get some sort of national nonleague cup sorted out soon as the flagship cup tournament for the nonleague portion of the pyramid.
Yes, I’d tend to agree with that - a junior final was a big deal but today was just another cup final - there was around 1500 Bonnyrigg fans at Cowdenbeath last week and probably a 1/5 of that number there today.
Not really for me to say, as my club won’t be part of it but hopefully the various leagues can come up with one national competition for ALL the clubs in tier 5 or 6 down.
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58 minutes ago, Glenconner said:
And the attendance was?
I’ve not seen one quoted, and didn’t hear one mentioned at the match. I’d guess about 700?
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5 hours ago, bravehearts dad said:
So the last match of this season this afternoon at the Falkirk stadium. Expect there to be a decent crowd rather than a big crowd. Who would have thought that 2 former Junior foes would have met in the final of this trophy, which is now the biggest cup competition in South Scotland. Would be great to finish the season with another trophy before we climb the staircase to level 4 next season. The Talbot may be using this as a warm up to the junior cup final. Hope the players have some energy left after their week of small celebrations and we can finish the season in style.
C’mon The Rose
Would have been nice to round off the season with a win in our final appearance in the South Cup, but the priority was achieved last week.
Some consolation for Talbot though after their season derailed in recent weeks.
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In other news darvel went ahead of Talbot raising possibility of south final being on May 22nd?
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The previous lowland league board trashed their reputation on old firm
entry. I just can’t see the current board wanting to do the same.
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22 hours ago, Burnieman said:
The SJFA have offered to run a national cup competition for tier 6 and below, with the same rules/flaws as have always been.
At a recent EoSFL meeting, that was about as popular as a dose of Covid in your squad.
I believe the HFL are not interested in any form of national non-league cup.
I think a National all in cup for tier 3 (or any starting point below) and below would be great. The highland clubs just don’t seem interested though, so the south challenge cup is a great alternative. I dare say the organizers might be open to including any teams north of the boundary that want to play in the south cup like maybe Brechin or lochee.
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What’s happening next season with Rangers and Celtic?
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23 hours ago, LeodhasXD said:
I mentioned in commentary that I was using Bonnyrigg as a yardstick for the Lowland League because our previous clash against rangers B was a glorified friendly.
I've often been suspicious about the lack of depth in the league but we were playing like a Harlem Globetrotters' exhibition match at times. Barring a shaky opening from kick-off that was crying out for a finish and a Bonnyrigg opener Hutton never had a save to make.
Niang and Henderson were the stand outs, but they’re not Alloa players.
probably something we will have to bite the bullet on when we’re bringing players in, but it’s much harder to bring in loans to the lowland league than league 1.
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2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Worth bearing in mind prorege is a Cowdenbeath fan, who may not be heartbroken at the thought of Club 42 playoffs not happening due to a technicality. Some of the stuff he posted about the last set of playoffs certainly appeared consistent with that.
Even without the grass banking, Bonnyrigg would have a decent enough capacity for League Two. One side and one end has hard standing with plenty of cover.
He is also conviently ignoring the recent Official Catchup podcast tweet about the LL being forced to accept a boundary rule change that points to the colts team rule angle having been resolved.
Ah, that explains the churlish comments about Bonnyriggs lack of style.
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See if(when) BSC Glasgow Alloa Broomhill get relegated, do they drop into the EOS or WOS?
EOS? So what happens if(when) they get a ground in Glasgow?
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Interesting chat on LL2.
I think it’s a really hard sell to particularly the wosfl after the arse the LL board has made of things recently.
and let’s not forget the wosfl tier 6 conference fiasco.
another interesting aspect is how wosfl clubs view the ceiling being removed. For most of them for recent years, promotion to a higher level wasn’t something possible.
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Just now, Marshmallo said:
Stenny do not have any players on loan from Hibs this season as far as I'm aware.
That’s strange. They have a strategic partnership with them for that very purpose. As do civil service strollers. I wonder what’s holding up their arrival?
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Everyone in the eosfl does have a route to the Scottish cup directly or through the Alex Jack?
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35 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Nothing like a 4-1 gubbing off a recent former junior club from a wee ex-mining town to bring home the reality that their SPFL status is in dead man walking territory now given there are plenty of other wee ex-mining town clubs potentially following the same trajectory.
And that’s with getting hibs youngsters in
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I think RG maybe has a point, and more understanding that maybe isn’t immediately apparent due to his knowledge of the American market.
For me there’s a pretty neat split between the full time clubs - around 24 - the most pro part time clubs - around 40 - and the rest of the pyramid.
I think abroath and Falkirk show you don’t want to make movement between full time and part time impossible but I think looking again at the structure underneath the top two leagues could be meaningfully reviewed.
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4 hours ago, It's Me said:
I was told that 12 clubs voted against the new proposal and 2 clubs voted for it.
Any word on when the board members will be replaced, and who will be standing to replace them?
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32 minutes ago, GordonS said:
Technically, if new rules haven't been approved they're playing under the old rules, which don't include the B teams. But the SFA must have sanctioned those matches in some way - they provided referees, after all.
This could get very murky. It's hard to see how the SFA could withhold approval, but that still leaves the issue of the wording in the play-off rules.
The SFA would be the ultimate arbiter?
To see this logically, even if a lowland league team was excluded for not "winning" the championship....what would be the next step?
A play off between say Buckie Thistle and Stranraer, and a situation where the Stranraer if they lost would go into the lowland league. I can't see that situation happening. Well, I can, but I really don't think it will.
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42 minutes ago, Kirk St Moritz said:
According to what I was told last week, East Kilbride were strongly against it, and wanted the Tay boundary to remain No idea who voted in favour, but pretty conclusive against, if what is quoted above is accurate.
Fair enough, that would be good news.
On reflection, I'm not convinced of the need for a hard border - I think @craigkillie articulated the different options well.
However, unfortunately, the fiasco around Brechin has entrenched people's views so I don't think we can look forward to a progressive solution anytime soon. I suppose I'm thinking of regional leagues at tier 7 instead of conferences....but to be honest I've not really watched what the opinion is for future and if there is any desire for regionalization within eosfl/wosfl due to their much bigger numbers of team.
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Bonnyrigg Rose: the where do I get parked thread
in Scottish League 2 General Chatter
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the likelihood of key players missing seems directly proportional to the distance to away games.