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Not sure if you can categorise it as wasted; he's gotten several major outcomes right, and he's garnering a small mint from his colegially obsessed disciples. He is a fairly irritating twerp, mind. Probably a case of the right bloke for the job.

Me next: How very humble of you Dave but, let's face it, you did want Rangers to be promoted as a businessman as you would so enjoy the extra revenue from those high-grossing bigotfests you enjoy with your other cheek. Oh ma f*cking sides. So much wrong here, sad to say that the majority of this deluded support will lap this up in pints. Well, with that much I agree, except he doesn't go far enough. This must be the last season they spend in existence, I would hope. Too much else of breathtaking dishonesty to mention, but it seems as though the Bears are waking up and realising the guy is a world-class bullshit artist. From "I'll invest GBP30m" to "We're raising season ticket prices despite being utterly shung" could be a bridge too far even for the GASL.

^^^ Quite honestly, if I found out my club had been stitched up right and royally to this extent, I would be beelin' as well. But, that said, had I been warned about such a possibility well in advance and not listened to said warning, thusly not galvanising a militant and committed support in order to protect the club I loved, and had instead blindly clung to a pre-supposed future of domination consistent with a past of financial doping and generally corrupt behaviour, I would really only have myself and my fellow idiots to blame.

I never knew the rhyming intent of 'Greenyin'. How characteristically mature.

Of course there is. It's because they're psychologically almost identical to your lot.

Temper, temper.

I wouldn't be surprised if somehow King manages to scrape the dough together or the outcome provides a clarified repayment structure. What it all really hinges on is how much Ashley wants to tighten the screws. It has been suggested elsewhere that he's not overjoyed at his boys being put off the board, but he's not known for any great sentimentality when it comes to business but more for using his ample resources to shift prevailing circumstances entirely into his favour. I think therefore a winding up order would be fairly unlikely, given that he could be going for the cash grab instead. Then again, if he succeeds, regaining his £5m doesn't represent a great win for him either, more meaning that he gets out without any great loss. Fascinating stuff really; the next 48 hours are likely to be very interesting indeed and will expose Big Mike's motives along with a lot of what GASL has been/not been up to.

If you don't reckon an almighty stramash is going to break out unless Mike gets his 5 million, you are one-hundred and thirty per cent kidding yourself.

Ah yes, neither you did. However, it is still untrue as I endorse no-one at all, really. Pedantic but I stand corrected.

Untrue. There are many here who detest both of your vile clubs, the only real loss from the situation being that Celtic are not suffering to the same extent.

You'll never learn so I don't know why we all try, but just as you jump on Dave's big fantasy train of make-believe, just consider this. What other club has under-utilised such an impressive piece of developmental infrastructure as Murray Park, and continues to do so year on year while spending dead money on some truly appalling players? And what support simply neglects this blatant fact, so desperate are they to see the big names on the team sheet week in, week out? And what club tries so desperately to hold on to such underutilised infrastructure? If this was my club - not just now, but for a decade or more - I would be infuriated that it has produced so few players of note. That is where the investment should be going if The Rangers want to be sustainable; but we all know it never will.

Lot of angry berrz on there. At least there is the sign of a pulse in their support, weak and discordant as it is, that this latest iteration of the tribute act is likely to implode shortly. That 'Sound of Silence' discussion from elsewhere has continued overnight: As has been the case in the past, by the time the Bears wake up and realise what's going on, it will already be far, far too late. If there is even a grain of truth in the above, there are more fun times ahead.

All of this is most reasonable except for one major issue. This Rangers has won no European fixtures as it has never featured in Europe. I really hope MoshiniBellend's scenario comes true. It would be most excellent if it did, more so if Celtic consequently imploded shortly afterwards.

My expectation would be that he can claim the company is in default in one way or another, then claim the assets upon which the loan is secured. This doesn't include Ibrox of course, but it does include the permission to use Ibrox as security in the event of another loan being required which I always felt was the most interesting of the conditions.

And they say Celtic have no shame. I can't think that these roasters are significantly reflective of the The Rangers support in general or my faith in general humanity would be in question. The imperialist delusion evident in that 'article' suggests a serious mental illness or general incapacity at play. The best thing that Rangers fans in the main could possibly do is band together to remove this borderline psychotic element from the club; they cannot move forward as a culture until that has happened and in doing so they desperately need to modernise their thinking. Similar to the 'Derry's Walls debate' on SevcoMeeja linked from elsewhere, even the fringe elements of their support demonstrate amply why The Rangers, their forebears and cohorts are universally reviled by everyone else in Scotland. It's not their 'successes' as a club, it's the intimidation, born to rule sanctimony and sectarian loathing evident in their support that well and truly rips my knitting.

Bloody oath.

Yours really is a vile club with a most sanctimonious support, entirely characteristically similar to the Ibrox side you so readily detest. Nothing personal.

To do so would be equally pointless though, especially in the framework you've designed. By deeming certain songs 'distasteful', you have introduced an objective test with which I cannot agree. I find any song or social activity connected with the celebration of terrorism, and indeed the slaughter of a religious group, steeped in such symbolism more than distasteful; I consider it disgusting, facile, and furthermore those people who defend such behaviour in any respect as doing as much to further such culture as if they were joining in themselves. For your reference though, although both are adjectival, I don't consider sectarian and distasteful to be synonymous in the least. One is strictly subjective, the other objective in my eyes. So to save wasting more time on the subject, I respectfully decline your invitation.

Cariacature is right. Also, snug stereotype would also seem appropriate.

It is entirely reasonable to poll posters on the same board, but it's also reasonably pointless to suggest that these posters are representative of the support as a whole. As imprecise as it is, using anecdotal experiences of Rangers fans collected over the years is fairly strong evidence to present in favour of Monkey's argument. As an analogy, for example; several Rangers fans post on here, yet few if any will admit to having sung sectarian songs in the past week. However, recent footage at Easter Road, Palmerston Park and Ibrox demonstrates large chunks of your support doing so. Therefore, it would be a long bow to draw to say that, on the evidence of posters on this board, Rangers fans don't sing sectarian songs, wouldn't it?

Sensational stuff. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Ah, I see. I thought you meant "he doesn't have the dough" which, essentially, it seems that he doesn't. Although some days he does. But then the next day he might not. Then one day he's going to invest it. Then the next he never said anything like that in the first place. Then the next he's invested it already, but then the next it was somebody else. To think he's been called mendacious, glib, shameless, and a liar. This new era of transparency beggars belief really, doesn't it? In any respect, even if it isn't the most lucrative income stream (and, depending on season ticket renewals should The Rangers remain in the Championship), they guy still has The Rangers by the haw maws. King's arrogance and efforts to belittle Ashley might just rattle the cage; many here certainly hope it will.

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Just one of the many things in that article that tickled me. My jaw hit the floor when I read that on the BBC website. The hubris of the man is almost unreal. He's obviously trying to diminish the appearance of Fat Mike's influence at Ibrox but the fact remains that he controls the most lucrative income stream at the place for the next ten years, he has options on most of their infrastructure and he has well and truly got the shits with King et al. To pay him off for $5m would be cheap compared to just chucking $20m at the club, even if he did have that dough at his disposal. 'The shareholders cannot tell the board how to behave'? Why then did he call his own EGM?! How thick does he reckon people (outside the The Rangers fans) are? More fun ahead, no doubt!

I'm really rather enjoying this breast-beating from the Rangers fans at the minute. It's just like when: Craig Whyte took over, then Charles Green took over, then The Easdales took over, then Mike Ashley took over I'm sure it will all work out this time; with a corporate record like this, what could go wrong?