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how many of the protesters will get lifted at their demo, we should open a book. i had a look at the sun this morning( i know, i know. i made sure i washed my hands afterwards) and after reading what that clown Andy Goram was saying, fat Sally's comments and just the general feel of what the fans are thinking about boycotts etc. it can now be confirmed that this shower believe they have a sense of entitlement. most of the shite that they come out with is not really about saving their club, it is an attempt by them to ensure that any sanction is light enough that they can get back quickly to dominate football here, a very large section of their support only follow Rangers for the glory. the SFA with these sanctions have taken the prospects of glory away for a few years at least. so what will an Ayrshire/Lanarkshire/Aberdeenshire/highland/Borders etc etc Rangers fan do when their lives become empty and "ra people" become just people. rangers fans, unable to take the rough with the smooth

the BBC are notoriously bad for bias, im sure they have been reported to ofcom on various occasions in regards to other matters, outwith football of course. but i agree with what you are saying about the review, they need to undertake a mass cull and start again, they have shown no impartiality throughout this whole saga. chick young should be the first shot out of a big canon over the clyde.

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this thread is massive now, i'm told that if we lay all the posts out next to each other they would circumnavigate the world three times, is this true? how big do we reckon the "rangers liquidated" thread can go.

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Christ, every time i follow a link on here to rangers media i am astounded, these clowns actually believe that Scottish football owes them something. i can't wait to see what they propose when rangers are liquidated. lets hope half of them are so upset they decide to boycott life itself

what about fans of the team that will be relegated this season, hibs/dunfermline. how will you guys feel if rangers go out the game, your club are relegated and a new rangers are fast tracked straight back in. i'd be livid.

i don't know if rangers are getting special treatment, i suspect that most people would say they were getting exactly what they are due, i say this with absolutely no malice. there are hundreds of companies that go to the wall every year and are not afforded the luxury of reforming under a near identical name, with the same staff and the same premises that the previous company had. what make rangers so special. what about the debt that is owed to a trail of clubs that spans the continent, who do you think should service that? the newco or should it be written off?

so you believe that a newco should not be hit with sanctions of a financial nature. you say that if transfer embargoes etc were implemented the game would be over, do you mean for you or scottish football? in the bit about you putting thousands in to the scottish game,and the economy each year. so do most people who follow football full time, but that does not mean that the team they support should be given special treatment because someone volunteers to spend their money on a hobby, does it?

this is genuinely scary, i bet that thousands of them hoover shit like this up, society will pay a heavy price if rangers go under. a war??? FFS

i'd be interested to hear if Rangers fans believe that these proposals are adequate, would you support a New club straight off the bat, would you feel embarrassed that the new club bypassed all the other clubs in the 2nd,3rd and 4th tier of Scottish football for a place in the top league? or do you believe that a b*****dized Rangers in what ever form deserves and is due a place at the top?

yeah, sorry your right. with my point on the OF i was looking to say that i think if it were also Celtic in this position then i think the SPL would bend over backwards to accommodate them too. but your right it is unfair to lump Celtic into this argument.

i haven't bothered looking through this but i presume most of us are talking about the proposals that the SPL are looking to introduce regarding clubs that go under. so here is my two bob's worth these new proposals are designed in an attempt to be as lenient as possible on any newco rangers, if any other club outwith the OF were in this mess these new rules wouldn't even be proposed, we would simply be told " liquidation is it? don't let the door hit your arse on the way under" this league is a sham, if these proposals are voted in the league is sending a message to every other member that they can get into a tonne of debt and when they can't or won't pay, can wrap up the football club and come straight back as a newco with same squad, same stadium and same status. we keep getting told by the weegie media that to lose rangers will destroy our game, i think a newco rangers being let straight into the top tier will signal the death of our game in a way that pumping them out could never. and i also wonder why we would all continue to watch football in this country knowing full well that the league is there only to protect the interests of the OF

not sure if it classifies as a "gig" but i'm taking the wife to Cirque du Soleil- Algeria at the SECC next Sunday. anyone been to Cirque du Soleil before, i'm told that it is amazing. it best be at £50 a ticket

i think that it is down to preference to be honest, the experts are probably right but i don't like ice or water in whisky.

that's the spirit, get into it. have a couple i like mine neat.

quite right everyone will have different pallets too so that will impact on taste someone mention Ardbeg, you can buy a 4 and a half litre of the 10 yo iv'e put a picture of this goliath here, size of it!!!!

i think alot of distilleries are going through a stage where they are trying to appeal to a broader market, i think that is alright so long as they don't tinker to much with it. i mentioned before that i tried the Dalomre Cigar malt, it was something different and i would love a bottle of it and sit there smoking a huge cigar while drinking it. i'd look the part

Laphroaig is alright, i never have my whisky anything other than straight, water and ice take away from the experience imo i think that the marketed one are just the most accessible, in pubs/supermarkets etc. but your right there are some gems to be found. especially from the independent distilleries, i had a bottle of 12yo Inchmurrin from the loch lomond distillery in the house not that long ago and i would recommend that to anyone. your lucky that you have one of the best whisky regions on your doorstep, so it would be a travesty if pubs round your way didn't take advantage of that. living in the central belt there is only a couple of pubs that i would say were decent whisky pubs and both those are in Glasgow.

Robbie's dram in Ayr is a fine shop, been a while since iv'e been in though. Highland Park is a good whisky, have you seen the highland park thor, it is the first of a range of special editions dedicated to norse gods. i don't know what it will taste like, i think its a 16yo but the presentation of the case is fantastic. have you tried the Dalmore Cigar malt, iv'e never tasted a malt quite like it, very different to anything iv'e ever tried. and they do the rivers collection now too, they are meant to be good.

working in a distillery would be a great job, iv'e only tried the 12 year old Glendronach once and it was a couple of years ago so don't remember to much about it TBH finding unexpected bottles in a cupboard would be nice, nothing like that ever happens to me, as a day to day, the balvenie is a good choice, it is always quite easy to come across, i think most supermarkets sell it which is handy, nothing worse if your regular bottle is only available through a specialist or online