WhiteRoseKillie

From rangers media (my new favourite comedy site): "What do these cnuts not understand????? SKY TV - Contract of £85m starting next season Clause: fixture list must contain 4 RANGERS V CELTIC MATCHES.. Ok, if we are docked 30 points next season then SKY will get their matches. But if we get relegated then oooops there goes interest and the TV contract and the money. You can just picture Liewell: "but Sky, we can give you 4 games of C*ltic v Livingston?" f**k off SPL, f**k off the other 11 "clubs", f**k off Thompson, f**k off Tainted FC and everything you's stand for (racism, bigotry, paranoia), f**k off SFA, f**k off HMRC, just everybody f**k the f**k off. The sooner we get into England or some form of British league or an Atlantic league or something, anything that doesn't involve this corrupt country and their corrupt governing bodies, the better." These fuds are superb - RM the site that just keeps on giving! KTID

Have a greenie, sir, and let's look forward to The Rise Of The Planet Of The Diddies... KTID

Not at all, we're picking up on the fact that Duff & Duffer are part and parcel of whatever dodgy deals are necessary to minimise the disruption for rangers to carry on as an SPL club with minimal impact to their status which, IMHO, is morally reprehensible. This is why HMRC didn't want them in place, and the Whyte Knight did. KTID

Since when was keeping the knuckledragging support happy one of an administrator's duties? Their job is to secure the company as a viable entity, and carrying on paying the likes of Broadface four figure sums on a weekly basis ain't doing that! This whole thing is beginning to stink so bad that I get the feeling that Strathclyde's finest, the SPL, the SFA, and (possibly) HMRC are just waiting for one of the others to tip this manky mob over the edge, so that THEIR organisation can say "we did what we could to keep the big hoose open." Surely HMRC (who didn't want Duff & Duffer in the first place) must soon apply to the Court of Session to have them replaced by administrators who have no previous involvement with this disgraceful bunch of cheating, thieving, lying, tax-dodging bigots. And for anyone who thinks that description's a bit harsh, all four adjectives and the noun are 100% factually accurate. KTID

:lol: Like Spinal Tap, it's funny because it's true.... KTID

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Rise above what? Everyone in Scotland knows what rangers stand for. To accept a job with them, you accept that you are working for a shameful organisation which would still practice apartheid recruitment policies if they could, which encourage sectarian hatred, and which bully those less powerful than themselves. And no, it's not a "minority". It's in the fabric of the organisation, from stands to boardroom. Prostitution would be a better moral choice, as at least the sex/money interchange is open and honest. KTID

Oh, yeah, the "My dad made me do it" defence. My old man was a celtic fan, and took me to celtic park for all the big European matches, back when they were a seriously good team (Lisbon Lions/Quality Street Gang). For a 5-8 year old, the impact of a huge ground packed with singing fans, quality football under bright lights, and the father/son bonding thing could only lead to one outcome - The joy of Div 2 football, the pain of relegation (again and again), the joy of beating A*r 6-1, scoring 8 against Meadowbank, WINNING THE CUP, being done out of another final by a "rangers-minded" ref(only reason I can think of for that goal being given in '94 replay). And the one time when I realised I may just be a well-balanced individual with sensible priorities: Drive five hours from Yorkshire with two of my kids in 2007. Watch Killie fall apart against Hibs while freezing me nuts off, look across the park at the celebrations and think "Fcuk it, they're the same as us, and it DOES feel great to win a trophy. Killie were awful, so enjoy your day, you deserve it"

No, the reason we all hate rangers and the other Sisters is that the clubs have actively attracted the type of people whose attitudes make decent fans ill. Findlay wasn't some Govan Stand ned, Neither was Goram. Gascoigne, ferchrissakes! Had it explained to him how some sensitive souls didn't appreciate the flute mime, so repeated it at the first opportunity! This whole "institution" was based on anti-catholic policies until the law made them pay lip-service to modernising their attitudes. I can't think of any other ground in Britain where players and fans are abused on the basis of which school they went to (apart from the obvious one across the city, that is). And no other ground where a player making the sign of the cross can be accused of "inciting" the crowd. This from idiots who profess to follow the same religion (that would be Christianity) The sorry fact is that, while the fans' attitude is disgusting, the club encourages them to get steeped in the "history" and "tradition" of a club which has existed for over 100 years as a representation of religious hatred. The scum aren't just in the stands, they're in the boardroom and on the payroll. Always have been, and always will be until Duff & Duffer get their act together and put this dinosaur out of its misery. KTID

We didnae want to ditch yes for loads of money - at least no' once the english saw what we did to Manchester and F*cked us right off. So gaunie let us back into the league we've been cheating for years, and carry on rapin' a' the young talent fae your teams? Gaunie, pleeeaassee.... :lol: :lol: Nobody on this board would welcome the death of another SCOTTISH football team, but that's not what rangers are about, is it, now? Ulster, Union flags, GSTQ... There isn't a decent Scot, let alone a decent Scots football fan, that won't be glad to see the back of at least on of the monolithic temples of bigotry that taint our country - because then we can start thinking about how to get rid of "the other cheek" - assuming they don't get all confused having no-one to hate and just wither away. In summary, hell mend ye - rangers have been a vile stench in the nostrils of decent people for too long - Big fish in a weegie pond - unfortunately they failed to cover their tracks, and HMRC are a much bigger, and hungrier, fish. KTID

Am I missing something here? Didn't Ticketus deal with Whyte (not rangers) through one of his other companies, and then he used the money to pay Lloyd's? By which I mean Ticketus never actually dealt with rangers as such, but with some dodgy "parent" company set up by Whyte purely for this deal. Sorry, chaps and chapesses, but it's all rolling around the inside of my napper now and messing with me synapses Still think the longer Duff & Duffer keep schtum, the worse the news will be for rangers when an announcement finally comes - which means all the better for the rest of us! If the popcorn, jelly and icecream consumption continues like this, a few more clubs will have to make XXXXXL replica shirts! KTID

When you think of all the overtime Strathclyde's finest must earn policing rangers' matches, they won't be in a hurry to give up their holidays and new cars by rocking the boat. Mind you, if there's no OF derbies or European nights, that income stream would disappear, so maybe it's time to start using all those new religious/race/sectarian hate laws... KTID

I can think of one "goal" in a semi in 1994 which should never have been given. Even McMoist didn't claim it had crossed the line, but the ref and linesman made sure rangers got value for money. Just because it might actually have been their money for a change doesn't make it right.... KTID

2 cups? Pah! We can start printing the 3IAR shirts from our titles in 63,64 and 65! Oh, and the Cup in 1898 and 1932, please... KTID

Greenie for you. they just don't get it, do they? Club's on it's arse, so we'll wheel out all the old favourite songs one last time. Then, if we come out of this mess, we'll get docked a shedload more points, and have a season finale at Easter Road. On the bright side, there might be something riding on the result! KTID (Submarine Sunday, anyone?)

1172 User(s) are reading this topic 2 members, 1170 guests, 0 anonymous users Even the forumites are leaving before the end! And the rest of us just go to gloat - petty and twisted we may be, but tell me this isn't the greatest time you've had in football since May 1997 (or whenever your sides last trophy was). They've been lording it over us for decades (in my case), so a couple of weeks payback seems more than fair. KTID

According to the Beeb's article, one of the companies has already gone tits up due to irregularities - wonder how healthy the other two are? OOOPS, nearly forgot, three if you include the unsinkable Govan giants. KTID

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17047957 OK, I didn't make myself clear. What I should have said was that without rangers, or more specifically 4 live hatefests, the new TV deal won't go ahead. Moving on, hows about we stop the cheap sniping and try thinking about how this sorry situation can be turned to the advantage of Scottish football and. indeed, Scotland? When outsiders think our game is all about hate and bigotry, it doesn't make for a great image. I hoped maybe some users might come up with other ideas, or an expansion of mine - this could be an incredible opportunity for change. KTID p.s. Communist? Not really, but look where capitalism's got us....

Simply pointing out that the SPL have more options than just maintaining status quo and kowtowing to the same old same old. The workers control the means of production, and to each according to his worth. That sort of thing. Sorry if I went on a bit, and REALLY sorry if you're dim enough to think the post is about rangers. It's about the possible future for the rest of us. KTID

From the the one or two(!) threads relating to the possible demise of one of our "institutions", I get the general feeling that we are all missing an important question here. Never mind can we survive without the OF, what about the Jumbo in the lounge - are we totally reliant on SKY and other broadcasters? In the short term, a new TV deal would obviously be much reduced without the 4 OF games every season. BUT the remaining clubs have the chance to share the cash out more equitably, so the Buddies, Arabs, Killie, etc. wouldn't take too much of a hit. As other posters have mentioned, attendances would improve as well if we didn't start every August just praying for survival. I believe if the rest of the SPL grew a pair that a OF-less SPL would be better for all concerned. celtic would just have to live with it - imagine going to parkhead just for the football.... Looking further ahead, we are in the 21st century now. We are continually told that we should be watching our TV online and that the internet is the future of entertainment. So why doesn't each club set up their OWN online broadcasting service, so that any revenue goes directly to those clubs? I couldn't make the semi against A*r through work commitments, but I found a live stream online. Arabic (!) commentary, mind, but the feed was there. In actual fact, we don't need commentary (we've all watched the occasional match before, so could probably work out what's happening), just the video with crowd noise would be fine. I have to make a 500 mile round trip to see Killie, so my attendance at TTOP is severely limited. If the club offered a live stream of matches for say £80 per season (my diesel bill for one home game) or a fiver for a one-off, I'd definitely be interested. Obviously Killie's fanbase is smaller than some other SPL clubs, but I'm sure this could be a profitable income stream. As there's no segregation online, away fans could buy their matches at RP on a one-off basis. If all the SPL clubs used this model, the potential income could in fact far outweigh the droppings from Murdoch's table that we've been begging for up til now. While the "smaller" clubs' fanbases may be smaller, they are widespread. I'm in regular contact with Killie fans in Germany, USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, Italy, and other countries. Like the whisky, it appears that a large percentage of Scots are destined for export. Many expats are desperate to maintain links with home, and that often includes their football team. I reckon there's a real possibility the potential income could well outweigh what, TBH, has become a pittance from SKY and the rest. Recent headlines have been on the lines of "TV deal requires OF matches" and "Scottish Football will die without the OF". As with a lot of cack we're being fed by the media, SAYS WHO? Those interested in maintaining the status quo, that's who. Say Killie are playing the Pars away. Last week this fixture drew 2300 fans. Pitiful, I know. But given the midweek timing and the weather, it would have been a serious effort to get from Ayrshire to Fife and back before getting up for work next day. If our normal home support had paid to watch online, there could easily be a sizeable five figure sum generated right there. And herein lies the beauty of this plan. Any Killie fans paying to watch the match at East End Park are paying DUNFERMLINE FC for the privilege. The reverse would apply for the fixture at RP. If Killie were at home to celtic, any thims wanting to watch online (and god knows they can't be bothered with a thirty mile trip for an away match) would be paying Killie for the privilege. No middle men, no SKY, just plain cash straight to the host club. As the Sisters always tell us, they bring revenue to our grounds. We know they don't, due to increased policing costs, but hey ho... This way, every club benefits in a much fairer way. Other benefits would include any advertising revenue going directly to the clubs and a fostering of a better fan community with far-flung Hibees, Jambos and Dons feeling more connected with their club. The TV deal finishes this season, and the broadcasters are already bullying the SPL into what they want. Come on, Scotland, it's time to declare real independence and start putting TV money where it belongs, not in SKY's pockets! For the last thirty years, we've been fed this "Scotland needs the OF more than they need Scotland" nonsense. Now we fans, our clubs, and the Scottish nation have the chance to show these bigoted bullies that enough is enough. There's a new age dawning for Scotland, let's drag Scottish football with it.

Can we please put the whole "diddies need the OF to visit 'cos of the money" nonsense to bed? Only once in the last five years have EITHER of the Ugly Sisters pushed attendance at TTOP over the 10k mark (while the one game we played against A*r, which was midweek and on TV, pulled in 11k+). The majority of their fans don't travel, and ours don't want to be in the same ground as those that do. Policing costs go through the roof, though, because Strathclyde's Finest know what they're capable of especially when they're out of their own middens. Let one die, and watch the other wither. Happy days, and a clean league at whatever level. It's not like ANY Scots team is going to trouble Europe anytime soon, so vote the cheats out and let their counterparts wonder where the "fans" went. The rest of us can start August with bigger ambitions than mere survival on the drippings from their slavering chops. KTID

You've obviously given this matter some thought, Sir. Well done - I like the cut of your jib! KTID

So Scottish football's shite and your mob cheated and connived your way to second place BEFORE you got caught? OF idiocy - the affliction that welcomes all faiths. Phud. KTID

Absolute class - like the way you've caught the XXXXXL magnificence of a young currant in his prime!

History tells us that these creatures will wiggle out of their situation with help from their "establishment" cronies. Fortunately, things are a WEE bit more transparent nowadays and HMRC will happily make an example of a so-called "big" club (who are actually minnows compared to the taxdodgers in the EPL) - it's the Poll Tax all over again. As for them dropping into Div 3 - who says they should get an automatic place in ANY Scots league? Haven't the Laptop Loyal been banging on long enough with their "clubs who can't manage their money should disappear" and "Scotland has too many clubs to go round"? Well, if there's one less, maybe the currants can go and watch their local sides. Would mean a decent boost to gates all over Scotland - oh no, I forgot, the glory-hunting scum can't even be arsed going to away games as it is. (or home games if the blue-seat extravaganza last week is anything to go by). Hell mend them, and let's see how the other Sisters get on when they've no-one to hate - can't see many top players thinking 30-odd training games a season (according to the **** fans) will enhance their reputation. Praying hard, but this could be the start of Scottish football regaining some credibility, competition and freedom from bigotry. You may say I'm a dreamer.... KTID