WhiteRoseKillie
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Well, this latest troll is even thicker than pepp, oaksoft and AWRA put together. I simply can't maintain a discussion with someone with this level of comprehension. Shame for the lad that Club Penguin is defunct, really.
He even quoted me, obviously believing that "should" = "is". A sad indictment of a once-great education system.
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3 hours ago, Zern said:
Your word of the day is; bonkeroony
Snow-nose Gove 2 : The Come-Down.
p.s. Add Madeley to the list of open-goal missers when they come out with the "big calls" bullshit even after the High Court has found them culpable for 20k+ excess deaths.
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2 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said:
I hate to disappoint, but there was no strawman.
My question to WhiteRose was based on his assertion that how a 'woman's body' is treated is up to her and only her.
It's not though. Restrictions exist are these are enshrined in law.
You know what I said about actually reading the posts of others? Now, show me where I said this. No rush. In your own time. When you're ready.
(You'll note that, unlike your erroneous accusation, my post which you obviously struggled to comprehend was not edited, so don't try that excuse)
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3 hours ago, Duries Air Freshener said:
My counter to that is that it's an unborn child we're talking about.. not a woman's body. Unless the mother has two sets of DNA, twenty fingers and twenty toes of course.
Also, there are already restrictions on abortions written into UK law. So, going by your logic, we'd allow abortion right up 'til birth? I mean, it's up to the mother how she copes with her pregnancy after all..
reductio ad absurdio is never a good look, laddie. In actual fact, if you'd think about what others posted, there can be occasions where decisions may well have to be made to save the mother's life when actually in labour*. Is that close enough to birth for you?
*The medical term for the period when the body prepares to give birth. Can be quite traumatic, as I can attest.
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Men are obviously allowed to care as much as women about abortion, just as women are allowed not to care.
What men should not be allowed to do is dictate how a woman copes with a pregnancy - be that the result of rape, the product of a loving and committed relationship, uncomplicated or threatening to the health of mother or child. How a woman's body is treated should be the preserve of that woman, and no-one else.
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2 hours ago, johnnydun said:
Yeah, they are sometimes known as Daniff's. But I'm not a fan of the mixed names that folk give to mixed breeds.
You and me both. Our two, apparently, are a Spanador (Cocker x Lab) and a Labradoodle (Lab x Poodle). Not to me they're not - acouple of mutts and none the worse for it.
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On 08/05/2022 at 20:25, welshbairn said:
Abortion is a complex moral issue and I really hope the American culture warriors don't export their binary positions to Europe, with willing internet participants over here eager to do their groundwork. Absolutist stuff from either side is stupid, you can't say that abortion is always right no more than you can say it's always wrong.
Jeepers, do you think P&B is ready for a reality where shades of grey apply rather than straight black or white.
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51 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:
The folk who read, and believe in that pish are stupid, servile c***s who deserve everything they get. We're talking about a government that binned a measly £20 a week Universal Credit uplift as soon as they could get away with it. Folk are quite literally going to freeze and/or starve to death this coming winter.
They absolutely do, and more. The problem is that these stupid, stupid people are dragging the rest down with them. I've always believed in universal suffrage as a base requirement for democracy, but the last decade has led me to wonder whether a wee quiz, á la Citizenship Test, should have to be passed before a vote is seen as valid.
Your last sentence is so, so true. Those who die, mind, should probably have just worked harder, eh? Or fallen out of a fanny dripping with unearned wealth, like our Lords and Masters. That's a good way to solve your Cost of Living Crisis, right there.
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14 hours ago, Granny Danger said:
Some will see it like that; others will see it as a clever, tactically sound move.
I see it as what you'd expect from someone who is working from the Bliar blueprint. He's no more a Labour leader than Umunna would have been.
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16 hours ago, scottsdad said:
Here's what I don't get. The media had the knives out for Corbyn in 2017. But people were enthused by his left-wing policies. In 2019 the press still had the knives out for him. He still had left-wing policies. So...what changed?
My thinking is that 2017 was just an oddity/outlier following the carnage of the referendum and 2019 was back to normal. Happy to be proven wrong though.
Three things for me:
1. May was gone and she was, as previously posted by many, probably the worst campaigner we'll ever see,
2. The engagement of a large portion of the electorate, the vision presented by the policies within that manifesto, and the resultant gains by Corbyn's Labour scared the living shite out of those who benefit greatly from the status quo, leading them to believe
3. It was time to unleash maverick, cheeky chappie, one-of-us-really
Waldo"Boris" and go full populist. The sustained personal attacks on Corbyn were also the most vicious (and fabricated) I've seen in my time on this earth.And it worked, God help us. I fucking despair at the state of this country and the refusal to face reality of the stupid bigoted racists who enable the slightly brighter bigoted racists to shred every last piece of freedom remaining to us.
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Wednesday Nine. Should have been a full house, but screwed up on the last one.
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Eight for Tuesday. Halogen and mountain.
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Nine for Monday. I draw the line at that.
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12 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
I think you mean the Executive. And the nationalists can't form it on their own.
It will be a very bad look if they don't. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't, all the same.
Yeah, didn't express that well. Am I right, though, that increased nationalist power makes the prospect of a referendum likelier? What form would it take and what's the time-scale for setting it up?
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11 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
If Burgon is amongst the best that the Labour left have to offer then they are fucked.
He's not the best public speaker, but he seems (on anecdotal evidence) to be a pretty good constituency MP and has maintained his stance while on the back benches. He's more of a long-term asset to the Party than LBC Look-at-me Lammy, that's for sure.
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8 minutes ago, 101 said:
Labour need 2 leaders, 1 for the left wing for the non metropolitan areas and 1 centrist to win the cities.
Yeah, 'cos splitting into factions has served the Left so well in the past..
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39 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
I completely agree with that but if I lived in England like WRK I would be very frustrated by the reality.
Frustrated doesn't even come close..
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36 minutes ago, scottsdad said:
For England/the UK, I would say a Labour government is essential. Even a minority one, or coalition, or whatever. The Tories are so utterly abysmal that they need to go. And the only way England will go that way is with a Blair/Starmer type at the helm.
Yep. Long game. Get into power, then bring in some policies which actually benefit the people of the country, not the non-dom cúnts who are happily raping it atm. And get RLB, John Trickett, and Richerd Burgon back on the FB, while finding a safe seat for Laura Pidcock
. Actually, Laura will probably get her Durham seat back at the next GE.
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39 minutes ago, scottsdad said:
Never change, WRK. Never change.
's just the way I am, innit?
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45 minutes ago, 101 said:
Tbf I think the NI count is yet to declare anything hopefully the coverage increases during the day.
To be honest, Scotland, Red Wall and Westminster/Wandsworth will pale into insignificance if SF and other Nationalists form the Assembly. The GFA agreement allows for a border referendum..
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2 hours ago, Michael W said:
Surprised they didn't try and deflect on Ukraine.
They've also been very fortunate that the weird local authority system in England didn't land for them on a bad year. A lot of councils don't have elections at all as they are on "all out" elections and it isn't their turn, whilst many only have a handful of seats up for grabs because you end up voting three years out of four or some nonsense. Labour were actually defending a lot more seats than the Tories.
This is a point which has been glossed over, especially in the context of "the tories are doing well up north". Eh, no they fucking aren't, and it's glorious to see. The minute you saw Dowden squirming on Burley's sofa this morning you knew what they know - Operation Save Big Dog has become Operation Save Our Own Skins. The problem they have with the less-engaged majority of the electorate is that Johnson was their "Waldo" - a character whose lies and poor performance would be excused by it being "just Boris". None of their potential next leaders have anything like the image needed to prevent collapse at the next GE. From misanthropic verging on actively evil (Patel) to demonstrably thick (Truss, Dorries and Raaaaab) to simply criminal (Hancock, Jenrick) or fraudulent (Javid, Sunak), none of them will appeal to Mr and Mrs Floating Voter. Without a leader who has that "cheeky chappie, what is he/she like"* appeal, they're fucked.
The good news is that Labour are probably going to need the SNP to form a robust Government. I wonder what the price for that deal would be?
*Which I have never, ever understood. How many cheeky chappies leave their wives while they're undergoing cancer treatment or arrange for journalists to be beaten? Or get sacked twice for lying to their employer(s)? All these happened well before he absofuckinglutely did not get Brexit done.
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2 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:
Dashboard, Shirley?
Prince Fuggin' Philip, I was told..
(Cont. P.94)
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4 hours ago, Day of the Lords said:4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:In private they will be disappointed about how they are doing in the North of England and the Midlands.
It seems to be the Greens and the Lib Dems who are doing well there - Labour still have an issue with Brexit-voting working class voters.If Labour can't make massive gains with this most open of goals, Starmer needs binned.
Of course Starmer needs binned. Or he could cross the floor to where his ideas of corporate-funded Party Politics would be more welcome. Unfortunately, a Blair Tribute Act is the best we can hope for in the next Government. I suppose it'll be a (small) step in the right direction.
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Seven for Friday. Meh.
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I'd have suggested he ask his Biology teacher, but not sure he's got to that advanced stage yet.