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With the 26% share transfer Sports Direct now have 75% of Rangers Retail. Complete control...

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Fair points K. To be fair, I know quite a lot of Rangers supporters and none of them could be described as extreme right. A few a wee bit Orange, maybe a few a big bit Orange but none I know are extreme right. But, if I was extreme right and I was trying to choose a team to support, then Rangers would be high on the list to begin with. (God knows it wouldn't be Killie because it's just too much hard work....) I'd like to think I'd be hunted from Rangers but I'm not sure to be honest. It's perception.... I lived and worked in the north east for a good few years and I never once saw a BNP stall in Aberdeen - although I avoided the city if Aberdeen were at home to Rangers or Celtic so I may have missed it. To be frank though I don't see what's fine with being even a wee bit Orange. Not in Scotland. Not in 21st century.

Firstly, can I say that I'm only responding to the extract highlighted in bold above. Not on the rest of the post. If you infer it as "Rangers supporters are of the extreme right" then I agree it's idiotic. However, the wording is "those of extreme right preference in their politics choose to support Rangers". I think this POV can be supported in debate. Most, if not all of us on here, have supported our teams from a very early age. I know I have and I'm certain you have. We didn't really choose to support our teams. Supporting Killie is not a decision I have come to in adult life - it's been with me as long as I can remember because of my family. It's also the same for my kids. I have supported Killie since long before I had even the slightest interest in or opinion of politics. The idea of me now choosing to switch support to a different ream for political, religious or any other reason is absolutely ridiculous and I'm sure it's the same for you. The only certainties in life are death, taxes and supporting your team..... However, if I had been brought up with absolutely no footballing allegiances or even interest, then things may be different. What if I, as an adult, had been persuaded/conditioned/brainwashed, for whatever reason to have extreme right wing views (BNP, EDL, SDL, UKIP, etc.)? If I then decided that I needed to choose a team to support in Scotland, which team would it be? Which team would appear to give me the environment, background, anthems, call it what you will that I would want, feel at home in or think that I could exploit. Would it be Aberdeen? Celtic? I don't think so. The unfortunate thing is that Rangers, and Celtic, are about more than just football, and, whether you like it or not, will always attract "supporters" for completely the wrong reasons.

It was the reference to the game being played on foot I wasn't aware of. I had always assumed it was by foot....if that makes any sense.

Didn't know that!

Yes, we played both codes* from 1869 depending on what opposition was available We switched permanently to football in 73 on joining the SFA afaik. *or a completely different hybrid game of our own which we sometimes revert to even now.

Jim McColl has issued a statement to Press Association. Details very soon hopefully.

...off a ledge on its downwards journey.

....but Oldco disregarded them both all the same.

No way he's getting KFC! Maybe our pies right enough.....

No way he's getting KFC! Maybe our pies right enough.....

From henceforward he will always be remembered as..."Jerking Bennett".

Can't deny that - they usually do on a variety of subjects! What's your view KB? Are you renewing/buying? Do you not think there will be a strong demand because if only 20k STs are sold then they'll be in the shit again? (Or is this the objective - to force another collapse to allow a new bidder again?) I still think there will be a strong demand - but that's only me as an outsider who's knows about a dozen or so Rangers fans. Genuinely interested in your view.

Fair point! Time will tell though....

I'm hope you're right! I'm just going by what I'm hearing constantly around me. Every Sevco supporter I know who previously held a ST is doing so again - as soon as they are able. Bar none. I also know a few who are planning on buying for the first time. It's not just us diddies getting behind our teams.......

Yes, agree on point 2. The "only" was to make the comparison to the previously estimated £20m annual shortfall. FWIW, I do think it's possible that 45k STs will be sold. Like a lot of us diddy supporters getting behind our teams for this season, the same is happening with Sevco supporters. As soon as they have their licence they can start selling STs - the demand is there.

I've a colleague who has been trying to buy STs for weeks now - when eventually he does manage to get through on the phone line (lines are always busy) he is getting told (as recently as this morning) that they are unable to sell any until the SFA licence is granted. He asked why Brechin tickets have been sold (2,500) and was told that it was a mistake and the shouldn't really have done this! I don't doubt this is what was told, but I do doubt that he has been given the true answer. Is there still an issue with banking facilities?? So, I don't really think that there is a need to promote ST sales - I reckon that as soon as they are able to sell them then they will. I also think (but hope I'm wrong) that 45,000 at least will be sold. Guess we'll see when (if!) the licence is given....

I'm glad you're not an accountant cos coontin's no your strong suit either! (did you multiply 400k x 52 weeks instead of 100k x 52 weeks?) 20 players at average 5 grand a week is £5.2m plus burden = say £5.9m annually. Running costs = £12m annually (I'm assuming this includes all non-squad wages and overheads etc.) STs = £13.5m Before any other income from other ticket sales, sponsorship, t.v., etc. there is a shortfall of only £4.4m. As a shortfall, it's still larger than some SPl club's entire annual turnover! But it's nowhere near as bad as you suggested.

Owe you a greenyin for attempting to get the thread back on track....

On the brighter side, Sevco have been approached to be featured in the relaunch of that classic game, DOOM.

Statement reads that they will work with SFA and SFL to facilitate them taking their place in SFL3. Basically it means that the SPL2 option is dead.

Dundee confirmed and also Sevco in SFL3

Quality! What album's Shocking from?

Classic! Greenie tomorrow.....