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Think that page said it was a 6:30 start with 5pm doors if I remember right. But no idea what "start" means in this sense and what they tape at a Smackdown these days. Could just be a pre-show, then the main starts at 7. Imagine it'll
It's the worry with them combining the tickets. On one hand, they get to pocket the money for people desperate to go to the PPV, even if they don't intend to go to Smackdown, but it'll be a bad look for them if they've chosen that over making sure every seat is filled. I don't doubt there's 13000 people who would rather go see WWE instead of watching the football, but there are going to be a lot of people - myself included - who would rather watch the game.
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I forgot you had that waiting room thing and left it unrefreshed until a few minutes before, would've been further up too.
Imagine you're right about the price. I'm fully expecting to baulk at it and not buy any, so maybe a fair few in that position too.
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I don't want to say the process is besieged by bots and scalpers, but...
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Ha! 13373 ahead of me in the queue. Hydro capacity? 12-14000. Lol.
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That's the presale codes out, 26 minutes to go. The guy I'd usually go with likely won't make it, think I'll unfortunately give it a miss unless the prices are significantly lower than I think they'll be.
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I thought early on in the match, Danielson looked like he was a good step slower than Ospreay. Obviously, that's no slight as Ospreay often looks like he's going at a million miles an hour, but fair to say he caught up, and that was incredible. Slight nitpick, but I never like Danielson going full Danielson on his selling given his history. Just fills me with that little bit of existential dread.
Another good show to go along with all the others, hard to point to a match that was anything less than good. Although - and it seems like I say this every time - they still feel like they have an issue with pacing and letting things breathe. Not quite as egregious as other times, but Danielson is lying in the ring, supposedly paralysed and on the brink of death, and you cut to your short video package for the next match, then 45 seconds later the next guys are coming out, and they're hurriedly telling you that it's fine, he left on his feet (probably because he fucking had to given the time schedule). I give them credit for keeping their shows to a set 4 hours every single time, and I'm not suggesting they go to the new WWE thing of having 3 hours of adverts a show to split things up, but pushing one match to a pre-show, or even just trimming matches slightly to give you more breathing room would make a bit of a difference. Probably just me though.
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My wee one's gotten to the age where he's seen a lot of his pals with their swanky new tops, and wants a top with his name on it to really rinse out all those pennies. I assumed I'd have the sad task of getting some Premier League oil/blood money stained shirt.
Unfortunately it's worse, I had to get the Scotland home top. It's really not very nice.
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Bucks are one (or two I guess) of those wrestlers that you can't really say you don't like without getting a disproportionate reaction in "wrestling circles" (so basically r/squaredcircle). They are clearly incredibly talented, and their approach to how they worked their indies and marketed themselves deserves absolutely massive credit. But I just can't take to them either, and the constant mugging to the camera and shouts during matches often come off as grating. Their EVP stuff makes it slightly better, as if you seem like a wee arsehole, playing a wee arsehole on screen is usually more palatable, but still just not for me.
Similar to Logan Paul in a way. I've seen a similar reaction creep in that as soon as you point out that he's clearly a c**t's c**t of the highest order, you get all kinds of people jumping back at you about how good he is at wresting. Of course he is. He's still a massive c**t though.
1 hour ago, DA Baracus said:Mercedes comes across a massive heel. Her look, her words and how she says them; all heel as f**k.
Yet she's portrayed as a huge face. Hmmmm.
Also, as I've said before, get her 'CEO' chant so far to f**k. Despise it.
I'd say it seems like a baffling decision she went to AEW, but I suspect they're giving her more freedom than WWE would, even under HHH's leadership. And that has proven to be a terrible idea, as pretty much everything since the moment the first notes of that awful theme hit has been absolute guff. She comes across like she's trying to cut a 90s WWE promo from someone stuck in an awful gimmick, with their only direction being "mention your gimmick a million times". Like Terry Taylor slicking his hair up and going out to talk about barnyards and shit. Every tortured CEO reference is horrible. The Boss worked, but it was never as blatant as this. I know they can't use that, so maybe, I don't know, find something different and reinvent yourself. She's very good in the ring, and she's a tremendous heel. I remember her dancing around Full Sail having just torn up a kids sign during that Iron Woman match she had with Bailey. You've got a red-hot face in Willow and a ready-made story there, I expect they'll get there and it'll be fine, but until...it's just fucking shite.
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Can't believe this is such a big deal when AEW already have a dinosaur competing against human beings. Khan must condemn.
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Say what you like about WWE, but they know how to squeeze the money out. Bit of a shiter if they're sticking to the combo tickets, but kind of understandable. I wondered if they'd just done the big WWE thing of doing something without checking before, but maybe they know full well that Smackdown might be a relative ghost town because of the game. They can move crowds around and still pocket the money by forcing people into buying if they want to go the next night.
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MJF for options 1, 2 and 3.
Malakai Black is probably a safe bet. Not really doing a whole lot in AEW, and I'd imagine he'd come over with at least Buddy Matthews given Rhea and Zelina are already there. If they could persuade Brody King too, that's a whole stable you can do a lot with in the new brand WWE. Julia Hart could come too, but I think she's probably best placed to stand on her own, and might get lost in the shuffle in a women's division that a company actually cares about.
I think ultimately though, it's probably an easier question to answer on who probably wouldn't make the switch. It's flipped now Vince has gone, in that WWE is probably a pretty attractive place to go for guys at all levels. Even NXT is probably an attractive proposition for those mid-card guys who don't have much of a chance of being used in AEW.
I doubt we'll see WWE go on the sort of spree AEW did in picking up huge numbers of people, imagine it'll be more looking for those individual names that can come in and be stars. Seems like they thought Ospreay was one (although I still can't see it for some reason in a WWE ring), MJF would almost certainly be one. I don't think they could resist Moxley coming back
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Omega does seem like he'd be a thoroughly decent chap generally. Sometimes you just get the feeling even through someone playing a character what they might be like in real life, and I get the feeling the Bucks would be arseholes. Omega just seems like a harmless geek though. I wouldn't be surprised if he went on a similar journey to Tony Khan through Brawl Out. Starting a wrestling company sounded like a brilliant idea, what could be better? Now suddenly there's a bleeding CM Punk verbally emasculating/actively fighting you, and everything seems a bit real. Bucks maybe feel a bit more comfortable in that life, but Omega just fancies wrestling. Can't imagine diverticulitis helps either.
Still can't see him going to WWE though. He's in that small group of people that I just can't imagine them using well enough to attract them. I've no idea what Ospreay would be like with them, for example, or the Bucks. Omega would be better where he is, maybe with less responsibility if that's what's eating at him. Just let him get healthy and do what he does best.
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If there's a truck full of sawdust spare, get Rikishi back.
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Fantasy booking, of course, but with his links to Cody, it would be quite the introduction if he's still red hot when MJF finally comes available, and he debuts by going proper heel against the company's biggest babyface.
He'll be back in AEW in the coming months though. He'll finish off the stuff with Cole, but after that...who knows.
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9 minutes ago, untitled00 said:
I said before they aired that I wasn’t sure how smart it would be to show it and I cant see how this is going to help AEW at all.
I doubt millions will have tuned in to see it and even if some did, I’m not sure there was much on the show that would convince non AEW fans to stay for future shows or buy PPV’s - which should kinda be the whole point….Another decent point. If they'd allied this curious decision to one of those episodes of Dynamite that seem like a mini-PPV in its quality, yeah, I can maybe see a net benefit. But they allied it to probably one of the worst episodes they've managed to put together since I started watching. If any new eyes were on the product to watch that footage, they aren't coming back.
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Is it useful publicity though if that is leading to people actively criticising the choice or outright laughing at it?
In the run-up, people were suggesting it was done for Jack Perry's benefit to heat him up ahead of him presumably returning to AEW. If that was the plan, big ooft, because he just ends up looking like a bewildered wee boy.
So was it to somehow get the last word in on Punk? If so, fucked it again, because it essentially corroborates what he said. Sure, Punk seems like an arsehole but then he always has. He's openly admitted what happened, and now has footage to prove it. He's already on instagram taking the piss. He's fine.
Was it to hype up Bucks/FTR? Now this holds a bit more weight, but if it was the case, they kind of didn't land it. They seemed to make an attempt to, but got stuck kind of halfway between it being just to take a shot at Punk and bring FTR into it. And with the Bucks as heels, are the audience now supposed to cheer Punk as the opposite face? The guy who isn't with the company anymore? Mission accomplished, as Punk would say, because there were CM Punk chants against the Bucks and Okada. Good job.
This - combined with the constant shooting towards WWE on the show - has to go down as an absolutely enormous own goal. Khan has always been a questionable boss with the way he let CM Punk walk all over him multiple times, but that was admittedly a difficult situation. It is not difficult, however, especially with the roster AEW have, to just ignore what's going on and concentrate on putting on a great show. They've usually managed that. Last night they spectacularly failed.
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1 minute ago, djchapsticks said:
Again, it was neither an active jab at Ospreay nor was it on WWE TV, it was on McAfee's ESPN show.
The comments were basically HHH being asked to assess who might be a good fit for WWE and said 'If you're at the point in your career where you're still pretty young and would rather pick the reduced dates and easier schedule than the grind when you are fit, healthy and able to do so, then this probably isn't the company for you and it's probably for the best we didn't hire you'.
The fact that Ospreay in particular has reacted without being named suggests that there's an element of truth there (in fact, didn't Omega once call out his work ethic as well in this regard?) but personally I saw it more as a broad swipe at anyone WWE might have been interested in such as Jay White, Mercedes Mone, Ospreay, maybe not so much Okada as he's now firmly in the 'veteran' categor,y but the fact that Ospreay of all people has taken such umbrage to it despite not even being close to getting named is quite telling to be honest.
Cheers for that, hadn't seen exactly what was said but that seems...tame, to say the least. And he's right too. If you sign with WWE, unless you're up in the sort of Brock or Reigns category, you are almost certainly signing up to do a quite punishing schedule. You can be the most talented wrestler there has ever been, you might still fall foul of that schedule. And that's fine! It's perfectly fine if you look at WWE and think "nah". Which is pretty much what Ospreay did, isn't it? He prioritised being more with his growing family than moving to the US and spending 400 days a year on the road. In that case it is "best we didn't hire you" for all parties.
But no, go out there and talk about how HHH pumped his way to the top, like he gives a shit. He's essentially running the biggest wrestling company on the planet. I don't think he gives a shit. He's the equivalent of Scott Brown pointing at the scoreboard and laughing.
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Honestly, when that Shield music hit, although I knew it wasn't going to happen, in that brief moment Moxley was definitely coming out in the Shield gear.
Khan should have asked if he could have Punk for the evening so the Bucks could pants him or something.
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I'm actually surprised it was the footage they were hinting at, as I assumed they were pulling some kind of bait-and-switch despite vaguely saying they weren't. But...why? If this was in the couple of weeks after All In, I could see there being more of a point, but now it just seems so pointless, even with them trying to tie it in with FTR for "but they're pals" reasons.
AEW have a real problem with just running their own race, and it's only getting worse. They're absolutely incapable of just letting their product stand on its own, despite being absolutely capable of doing so. They've got an incredible roster, and can put on terrific shows. Why bother with this pish? WWE probably even benefit from this, as McIntyre is almost certainly going to get some mileage out of it. It doesn't make Punk look any worse, seems to just corroborate his story. Then they have FTR come out with a ra-ra speech, and STILL they can't help but take a shot at WWE. And not just any shot, but one that probably holds little weight given that if they were still in WWE, they almost certainly would have been featured very prominently as HHH fucking loved them. As for Ospreay, I didn't see the comments HHH gave that prompted it, but even if he felt like hitting back...just don't. What do you have to gain? You're Will Fucking Ospreay and you're about to tear the house down with Danielson.
End of the day, after Punk came across like an absolutely massive c**t for most of his time in AEW, they've actually managed to make him seem better with how they've acted. Punk's just featured - while injured - in a prominent angle in front of 70000 people and has at least one massive feud ahead of him once he returns, and AEW are airing 8 month old footage and - playing while I post - having Chris Jericho continue to try and steal heat from anyone he can.
3 hours ago, Lukovic said:I'm pretty sure the Tony incident was something completely different.
Would Tony not be around the corner you can't see on the video? After they're separated Punk seems to lunge in that direction and say something across some monitors, which would kind of track with the story told. Of course, there's nothing in there to suggest that Punk was going to end him like Khan was making out.
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I didn't really notice because they fucked up the camera angles on him actually appearing before Reigns took him down, but Rollins really committed to his Shield bit not just by having a full costume change after his own match, but dying the blonde streak back into his hair. Commitment to the bit.
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One thing that really stood out over the weekend and carried on into Monday was just how incredibly good WWE are on presentation. They've always been the absolute kings of the video package (something AEW still don't really get right), and put out some absolute classics over the weekend. The Usos one was as good as the match was bad, and Cody's Rise Up one from RAW was the first one I remember of making a wrestler actively cry in the ring, so kudos for that. But where Kevin Dunn had the whole live presentation lagging behind with his weird style, I think they've now near enough caught up in quality. A much more slick visual style with some really great choices made. On RAW when Liv Morgan attacked Rhea, you had a full unbroken shot from the start of that little promo with Dom, through the attack, then Dom literally pushes the cameraman into the next shot as they disappear out into the arena to start the next match. They looked like they were using a kind of cinema presentation at points with a softer framerate, particularly in the tag main event on Saturday. Just lovely stuff.
And it kind of goes along with the above, as I think HHH specifically called out the guy who replaced Kevin Dunn for his work so far, but really nice to see them specifically calling out Samantha Irvin too for her calls. The entire product is firing on all cylinders. Your ring announcer is adding value and really selling the emotion. Your colour commentator (acquired taste as he is) is adding great comedic notes, your play-by-play guy looks like he's 30 years younger with how much he's absolutely loving his job. All the wrestlers seem to be loving it too. Just brilliant to see.
Off to Saudi soon though. Sigh.
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I thought that was quite a good RAW After WrestleMania considering some of the shite we've been served up with in recent years. They've got a few weeks to have people move between brands and pivot towards new feuds ahead of the draft, and I think they covered a lot of bases to continue the new generation stuff. IC title feud presumably set up with Gable potentially turning heel, Priest's first challenger set, Punk and McIntyre ratcheted up a bit, and a good load of new blood introduced. Bit of an odd decision to have that new blood be both NXT Champions who presumably aren't ready to come up just yet, but the first match of the "new season" being Dragunov and Nakamura kicking shit out of each other was a welcome change.
I would have liked Cody's next few months to be set out a bit clearer, and that segment didn't really do that. We're getting Cody/Rock at some point, but if you're not going to say when, I'd probably have preferred they just held off on the whole segment to be honest. Let someone else come out as a true first opponent, do that feud, then if Rock's ready for Summerslam, or Royal Rumble, or even WM41, start it out then. All we got was a chance for Rock to appear again and make the segment about half an hour longer than it should have been (seriously, those fucking pauses were getting ridiculous). Having said that though, the delivery from Rock did raise some interest. He was truly fucking creepy at times.
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Another thing that will likely be glossed over because the product is extremely hot is just how egregious their commercial approach is now. I'd be interested to know over the 11 hours or so of programming between NXT and the two nights of WM just how much actual wrestling there was. Even if you included entrances, I imagine the amount of time they spent on adverts and actively shilling products was just sent into overdrive. That's something you'll likely get away with if you're running a show people are enjoying, but no-one is going to able to have the kind of hit rate HHH is having forever. Now that the Rhodes stuff is pretty much done, and we're likely into at least the epilogue of the Bloodline, they're going to need to keep telling these great stories, or all those little unpalatable things that WWE are doing are going to start to matter a lot more.
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Probably a more reasoned post tomorrow once I'm less fucking exhausted and find out what day it really is, but what I'll say now is that it's absolutely amazing the difference that a good ending makes to a WM. I think from memory WM was pretty good last year, but they absolutely fucked it by having Reigns go over. At the time at least, because having him hold another year and slowly build this story led to just how amazing that final moment was. You go back a decade, and you've just watched probably one of the greatest endings in WM history with Bryan winning, at the end of a candidate for the best show ever. If someone suddenly appeared from the future and told you everything that would happen in the next ten years, and how it would culminate with Stardust not only winning the big one, but having done so by the entire fanbase rejecting the Rock of all people, you'd almost certainly imagine they were on something.
Michael Cole summed it up at the end. Genuinely tearful, unscripted, "I love Professional Wrestling". Me too, Cole. Me too.
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