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Still in favour of this. It will excite Scottish Football
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Rangers and Celtic need to be rewarded for their continued success in the Scottish competition and to aid them to have better rest during their seasons a bye into the Last 16 would be an ideal reward, TV would be all for it i would imagine and it wouldn't change that much, I would have them seeded so they can't meet to at least the semi finals again for TV
R1 & R2- All 8 Qualified Non League sides in the draw with all L1 and L2 sides. 4 byes in R1 for League 1 clubs
R3 - 10 Championship, 10 Premier League sides join the 8 winners from the opening rounds for 14 ties
R4 - Rangers and Celtic will join the competition
This will provide an exciting (Replays will be back) and compact competition with a cut and throat Qualifying competition with another cut and throat opening competition to join the big 2 into the last 16. TV would love it, Fans would come back and Scottish Cup will be a lot more exciting again.
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On 12/02/2024 at 10:51, AyrshireTon said:
No to all of that.
Instead, have it begin earlier in the season and have absolutely EVERYONE in the country in the hat in the first round, juniors, amateurs, the lot.
And bring back replays and second replays at neutral venues.
That would be rubbish Celtic could draw an amateur side and be 15 nil up at half time
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I actually don't think the Scottish Cup in its present format is fit for purpose
I would bring back the Qualifying Cups so the Non-League sides have something to aim for in the opening months of the season
Also have Rangers and Celtic have byes to the last 16
What do you think
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And to the Albion Rovers fans who said he should have stayed.., Are you mental lol
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He will learn a lot more playing for Burnley U23/B Team than Albion Rovers
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Elgin need to go into the Highland League
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I spoke to an Elgin fan and he said its better for the club to play in the Highland League next season and relaunch the club in that league.
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Laughable. Elgin players are a disgrace and should never play for the club again. Jeanfield wasn't even that good.
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Nice annual game. Hopefully a link up between the clubs so that Clach can benefit from what ICT can offer with youngsters, Training and use of staff. ICT could get a defracto B team involved.
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Hibs 1-1 Aston Villa will be my prediction
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I'm going to concede that the B Teams involvement in this competition should end this season. And it be replaced by a proper B team League where they play a number of matches against each other & an added clause of matches vs sides knocked out of Scottish Cup early rounds in friendly/training matches.
Get the Challenge Cup back to what it was
30 clubs and the Highland/Lowland league champions. I personally want the League Cup back to a knock out format but for League Clubs only. Have the 1st round as 2 legs so that the "Lesser" Clubs will have another fixture.
I'm an advocate of a B Team format but this needs to work ALONGSIDE the existing format and more partnerships can happen between B Sides and Lower league clubs for loan players and first options etc. Scotland is improving but it needs to do a bit more with youth. Playing in early rounds of the Challenge Cup in front of a few 100 isn't that type of development it needs.
Over and out. I've got it wrong about the Challenge Cup
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10 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said:
It's a competition for lower league teams. If lower league fans turn our noses up at it then how is it possibly a good trophy to win?
It should either
- Be what it was for 30 clubs of the Championship to League 2
- All with B teams and Irish and Welsh Teams
Which would you choose. Either way some Lower League fans didn't give a toss about the Challenge Cup before the B Teams were involved. Now they are pining for it
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2 hours ago, peternapper said:
The whole competition has been turned into a farce, going by previous seasons East Kilbride could possibly field a youth team in such an important tie.
It's exciting and provides kids a good chance of playing Senior Football. I'm glad that this is continuing and will do so for a long time yet. No reason why it shouldn't really its a good trophy to win even if Lower League fans turn their nose up to it
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6 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:
I'm sure Ianis Hagi getting a few games against Queens Park B and Brora is going to propel Scotland to glory in the 2030 World Cup.
If only Beale had the authority to give these guys more minutes in the 1st team.
This is a strawman argument and forgetting the Young scottish players
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On 09/05/2023 at 09:43, kingbob1875 said:
There's no 'of course' about this, it's an unknown at best. Personally, I don't think many people who play in the Scottish 5th tier when they are aged 18-21 are on a pathway to elite development which helps the national team.
It's unknown but i want to give it a chance and the amount of "Dislikes" i've got for every post hasn't even changed my mind. I'm a massive fan of B teams and i see the benefit. It's understandable why people dislike them but for smaller countries its needed to ensure a better pathway for Footballers to develop better for the benefit of Scotland but has i say all this will take time to bed in
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Very interesting idea.
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On 05/05/2023 at 19:16, Bestsinceslicebread said:
This is the worst statement i have ever heard. This without doubt coming from someone who hasn't a clue about youth football. The effect on youth football players dreams will be damaged immensely, even the grassroots will be damaged where boys can come from entering to play for B teams. Young players dreams playing for their local teams will be harmed as those teams in tier 6,7 etc.. will realize not much chance of progression and thus wont be motivated enough to play or stay in football and this will now effect youngers players who have a chance of making senior teams to eventually B teams will find it tough and not much point
Youth Football is enhanced by B teams as they can have development under 21/22 as opposed to 18/19. It gives proper game time and allows progression is a good environment. If Rangers/Celtic release them it will be good for the teams around as they get ready players for progession of their own squads rather then 18/19 who might be inexperienced. All good and B Teams of course are a feeder to the main squad enable the same tactics, Training. Scotland will benefit from this but of course it will take a lot of time and effort to beat fruit
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4 minutes ago, Marten said:
You'd have been against it if the plan had a lot of support...
Nope. I'm a massive fan of B teams and ensuring Youth Development.
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Can't wait for this to start
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4 hours ago, amigan said:
As to the B teams, there are arguments on both side, ultimately the answers given will be filled anchored in bias one way or another rather than an actual reasoned debate.
This is the case. People are also frightened of change
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19 hours ago, Sparticus said:
The B team arguement seems to be that it’s good for Scottish football to give the old firm b team players a test against lowland league opposition.
Letting them into the pyramid basicallly demotes ambitous clubs below them.
What gives old firm b team players preference over other proper clubs players around the same level?
Scottish football isn’t built for this and has alot of fantastic smaller clubs who have there own great history.
Please put the b teams in there own b team/reserve league and focus on making the Pyramid the best it can be.
Smaller Clubs who will just sit around the Highland/Lowland level. Ambitious teams will get promoted anyway even if there are a number of B teams involved, So that's a bit of a cop out
I be honest. I want Rangers & Celtic to be more European Powerhouses and B teams is a step (However minor) towards that. I
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3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
21-22 year old with a 100 appearances at lower league level.
Sounds brilliant in a football bubble. What's his job experience like? I'd be more interested to know how he'll manage part time football with a full-time job.
This is where education will come into it.
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1 hour ago, CambieBud said:
Where to begin with this nonsense! Has to be a wind up?
I’ll take this at face value and give you the benefit of the doubt. Please explain what is to be gained by non Scottish youngsters playing against part time players in the 5th tier? I could understand if the B Teams were playing against full time professionals in the 2nd or 3rd tier, in that it might help with hardening them up. However, no self respecting club would voluntarily want this for numerous reasons. There is absolutely NO value to the pyramid with B Teams.
They are playing matches that matter Against players where it means more then its each age group or youth. B teams will produce youngsters for other clubs as well and works better in other countries then the flawed loan system.
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That's really sad news. What a shame