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  1. I think it was the David Elder Hospital Cup first. The Erskine Cup was played at the end of the season I seen Benburb win 2 nil against Clydebank in 1962 at Tinto Park in a final. Jim McDonald scored both goals. In the pre penalty shootout days the games were decided on corners if the teams were level.
  2. Remember 2003 well. The . Ben's did well to survive. Good luck for next season.
  3. I have felt for a very long time that Junior Football is several decades past its sell by date. It was good in its time but now a back stream to the real world of football. In respect to Benburb I would love them to join the pyramid outside the Junior Football. With Govan re-populating there is scope for decent standard non league teams to participate in meaningful fixtures. This could be achieved if they got them selves out of the Juniors and aspired to better things.
  4. It was black ash. From memory it had a white rail around the pitch. Two or three steps of terracing were on three sides which were overgrown. The clubhouse was behind the entrance which was at the end of a street. There was no cover. The Strathies had little support in an area that had several other teams nearby.
  5. St.Anthonys pitch was grass but with a bare patch down the middle due to over playing on it. This was true for many junior grounds. Dennistoun Waverley were a big club at Juvenile level and recruited many of their players from these teams. They had the only full time manager in junior football called Andy Moffatt. Strathclyde Juniors near Celtic Park had a black ash pitch within a decent sized ground at Springfield park. They had the distinction of the lowest crowd at a junior match of zero to see Blantyre Celtic.
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    Many congratulations to the Ben's on their promotion. Well done to the players and management. I seen them win against a good Arthurlie team at start of the season and thought they would do well. It has been a long journey back to the top league for Benburb. In 2003 their survival was in doubt and they tumbled down the league's. Good decision making by the committee then enabled them to survive. They deserve enormous credit for sticking with it and are now reaping some success. Many congratulations of course to Rutherglen Glencairn.
  7. Hope file can be seen. There are still a few of us around that remember the Kilsyth Rangers v Benburb game. I was not there but my family who supported the Bens talked about it a fair bit for several years afterwards. The teams at the top of their respective league's played off in a final. Two smashing teams with big supports and a crowd of 15,000 at Shawfield. An extract from my book 'A time in Govan' which I hope comes out.
  8. I made one of my not too frequent trips to Scotland and took in a match by my favourite team Benburb last week. They played Arthurlie who looked a well organised and capable side. The first half was open and both teams had chances. However the Bens left winger scored with a long shot which will probably be voted 'goal of the season' by the club. In the second half the lead was increased with an unfortunate own goal from a Lie defender. The Bens held on fairly comfortably for their first points of the season. All in all I was very pleased and proud of the way the team played. They were well organised and played some smashing stuff against a team who will I imagine be near the top. It has of course been a long way back for Benburb from the dark days of 15 years ago and their small committee, management and helpers deserve a lot of credit. The playing side looked good and definitely a very enthusiastic bench. On the performance they could well surprise a few more teams this season; so good luck to the 'chookie hens'.
  9. The lower down the pyramid the more local the games. If a team is promoted up a few league's then they are likely to do more travelling. However the laws of gravity kick in (usually money) and they play reasonably local. If the club has a decent fan base like say Clydebank then they may want to play among the better teams in higher divisions and that may involve a bit more travelling. However for the vast bulk of the teams they will be playing in leagues probably not too different from what they are in now. The more ambitious clubs are likely to want a better quality of football. The less ambitious will probably stay where they are. The Pyramid is a good way forward although not perfect. The alternative vision from the SJFA has never been provided to offer any comparison.
  10. Benburb football Club Named after a town in Northern Ireland.
  11. I would just like to say well done to Burnie man and many others for their perseverance on providing what I believe will be a better future for the football clubs that have moved over. It will not be perfect and there will be challenges to overcome. However at least the clubs will be able to find their level and improve standards. It is a great pity the club that I have followed all my life Benburb are not moving over with them. I sincerely hope they will review their position and move over next season.
  12. It may be 20 years too late but at least there are moves in a positive direction in my opinion. However a separate organisation which is not aligned to the SFA set up will not solve the problem. The thinking should always be that you are dealing with football clubs and should not give them labels (Senior or Junior). The good well run clubs like Auchinleck, Cumnock, Pollok, Clydebank etc should be allowed to compete on equal terms with other non league sides in the country. This would benefit the Scottish game as a whole I believe.
  13. By co-incidence I was at Tinto park on Saturday for the Govan derby. Well the New Tinto Park which again by co-incidence was the old Tinto Park before they moved into the new Tinto Park that you see in the picture. Hope that makes sense !!. I remember them putting that cover up as a kid in the mid 1950's. Looking at the picture the match was played in the last decade and my guess is Johnstone Burgh could be the opponents. I agree with the comment about not keeping grounds up to scratch and that is no reflection on the people involved with the clubs. The problem is; like the Bens, the committee's are too small for one reason or another and the work load for the people involved is considerable. Saturday was the first time I had been to New Tinto Park and was impressed. However it will need keeping up and hopefully the Bens will be able to get some folk on board to help their very small hard working crew. The Ants won 4-1 and I thought they deserved it. Bens were good in parts. Hopefully both Govan junior teams will go on to having a good season The big problem IMHO with the ground aspect of Junior 'fitba is that they do not set a minimum standard for grounds.
  14. I rate the Dreghorn post as excellent and agree entirely with Burnieman. A shake up is long overdue.
  15. I provided a programme for Benburb FC. My son provided them with a website from around 2003. the reason we got involved was because the club was in dire straights and to their credit the then committee set about a 'Mission Impossible' plan to save the club. To their enormous credit they succeeded. Producing a programme does take effort and the financial return at the gate is never going to offset the cost of producing them. However I have always believed that it is important to provide people coming to watch your club with a good match day experience and a programme can be a good part of that. . One of the first programmes we produced was against Clydebank soon after they reformed and sold over 100 at the game. Indirectly programmes can benefit. We asked Sir Alex Ferguson for help in saving the club and he responded big time in helping save the club he supported in his boyhood. He provided the odd article for the programme and even visited the club.one evening to meet the officials. There were a number of exile fans who also supported the club and efforts to save it. I got involved on a few occasions in selling the programmes at the gate when I was fortunate enough to see a match and calculated that 2 out of 3 supporters purchased. Going back to the Scone experience I would say Scone are probably typical of many Junior Clubs. Having watched Junior football in the 1950's and comparing it to now it is difficult to see any great progress except that the relative playing standards have gone backwards. So perhaps the thread title should be 'Back to the Future' !!.
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