DavidVillaNo1

Fair enough. I just find his matches especially against Undertaker are vastly over-rated. Great wrestler, one of the best of his era, but nowhere near as consistent and perfect as made out.

Continue with the theme? Some of the stuff already mentioned by previous posters I fully agree with. Probably be the most controversial as it normally is with this guy. HBK was over-rated.

I know this, that card was what I would have at mania. Good shout.

Apparently the rumours about Sting signing were nearly 100% true. Either a slight delay in the contract signing between the two parties before the Rumble or Vince did not want Sting in the Rumble because they had Nash and Booker. That was the main reason HHH never made the return. If Sting has not signed(or does not) I'm sure WWE will have back up plans, more so with Undertaker. I would love for them to go with the match I had as what I would like to have seen at Mania. Sting vs Booker T vs Kevin Nash vs Big Show - wCw reunion match. My WM card was this. Miley Cyrus singing the US National Anthem IC Title Match: Kofi Kingston vs Jack Swagger Continued feud wCw Match: Sting vs Booker T vs Kevin Nash vs Big Show Makes sense with the wCw HOF plans. US Title Match: David Hart Smith vs Tyson Kidd Tyson Kidd defeats Bryan with the help of the Bella Twins Divas Title Match - Over The Top Rope: Every Diva involved, Daniel Bryan as guest Ref. Awesome Kong wins. Money In The Bank: Cody Rhodes vs Dolph Ziggler vs Rey Mysterio vs Drew McIntyre vs Ted Dibiase vs Randy Orton vs John Cena vz Zack Ryder King of Kings Match Sheamus vs HHH Corre / Nexus Elimination match, Falls count anywhere, NoDQ: Wade Barrett, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Ezekiel Jackson,Skip Sheffied vs. CM Punk, David Otunga, Micheal McGillicutty, Husky Harris,Mason Ryan Streak vs Brand match Undertaker vs Kane Loser must go to Raw. WWE Title Match: Miz vs John Morrison Morrison wins at Elimination Chamber World Heavyweight Title Match: Edge vs Christian vs Del Rio

Totally agree. On my wrestling site I have that match down for WM. Edge using the unprettier a clue? Although I would possibly prefer Christian making a surprise return as the final MITB entrant(if they have it at mania) winning the briefcase and then cashing in that night after the Edge vs Del Rio match, Del Rio wins the title and then Christian cashes in to win the World Title. Although knowing Vince lack in Christian that is very unlikely and possible Christian could be the first to cash in and not win the title. Spot on. As for the Royal Rumble PPV the first match was excellent and nothing lived up to near that standard. Rumble bored me at spells with the whole Nexus and Hornswoggle parts. There was a real lack of major surprises this season, no HHH, Christian or Kong. At-least Del Rio won.

Sounds good to me. I ran a WWE/TNA prediction league on my wrestling site the last few years and have yet to be beat. Give you a few details of our scoring system. I used to just right down the match for example RVD vs Mystery guest and everyone just picked who they thought would win.

I marked out that night, Edge was the hero. Never been a fan of RVD. Fair enough. I actually don't blame you. In the last couple of years I have hardly watched Raw or Smackdown and skip the PPVs. Mainly due to Cena, Rey, Batista and Undertaker. I actually had an ongoing collection of every Raw/Smackdown/Vintage Collection/WWE Specials/TNA Impact, both PPVs for about 5 years but decided to stop recording them as was not interested anymore. I knew it was something about him not jobbing at one point.

That's one thing that annoys me the criticism Bret gets about his charisma and promos. I thought at times he was fantastic on the mic.

I enjoyed his match with HBK at mania, but hated the '60 minute' match. I'm not even going to get started on Lashley or RVD but his match with Lashley was one the poorest matches I have witnessed. I actually quite enjoyed his first match with Batista Rest were lame. I thought his Samoan drop was excellent, haha. Mankind had some excellent matches, I miss the attitude era Remember Austin vs Bret Submission match at mania 13?

I agree with all this bar the first part, I remember laughing at the ending to that match, pathetic it was. I can't think of many good Cena matches, the main ones have been in stipulation type matches like LMS vs Edge. I think it's a case of Edge/HBK carrying him to a good match than his own ability personally. I will give John his due that he works hard in the ring and is an athlete, however his coordination looks off at times and his moves look more fake than normal(faker than fake ) Both looked better in the ring though and their submission type moves/punches/signature moves were superior to Cena's. I actually think Austin is slightly over-rated and The Rock(wrestling wise) is under-rated. Dwayne had so many good matches on a consistent basis. Just seen they had 5 matches in the short feud in 2009. Still stand by that 2 of them were not that bad due to differing factors, one very good. Each to their own though. Fair enough that is your opinion. I enjoyed it, you disliked it, people on Youtube thought it was a great ppv match, others probably though it was shit. Opinions eh? Put it this way if they were given 5-6 minute matches on Raw/Smackdown I would not expect it to be very good, if they are given enough time to produce a real good match I think they could get it done.

Cheers, I'm up for a decent debate. Possibly, more so he became that type of wrestler in his latter years with WWE. Still think he was far more technically gifted than Hogan. Mysterio is another superhero type in WWE and does the same set of moves. He was much better in wCw. Did you see the TNA World Cup 10 man elimination match? For me that is what you call real cruiserweight style wrestling, real fast paced action. IMHO Rey is not of that standard. Many of Rey's moves are just slight variations of the same move. Edge, Angle, Benoit, Eddie G, Bret, Jericho, Mr Perfect are the 'technical' type wrestlers I was talking about, I don't class Cena's shoulder block or Rey's cross body as actual technical wrestling moves. Do you understand were I am coming from in that regard? Their first match IIRC was a six minute match on SD, it was ok for the small time and some decent moves. I enjoyed their IC Title match at Hell in a Cell 09, arguably match of the PPV. I'm sure the 2/3 falls match was decent enough aswell. That was my original point the story of the match had fans emotionally involved and was the main factor in why it got MOTY. Pure wrestling wise I don't think it was as good as Bryan vs Ziggler. Infact HBK vs Taker 2 was not as good as the previous encounter IMO. Fair enough, I personally think if they are given 15-20 minutes to do as they wish on the big stage like HIAC 09 they can produce a good match. Both are more experienced and arguably better now. You are exactly correct. It's like Edge always brings the best out of Cena. I still maintain that those two could have a very good feud if both continue to rise in the WWE as real credible main eventers. I predicted Edge coming back at last years RR on my wrestling site. My best shout was RVD back in 2009. I never predicted Cena returning though, that was a major shock to me. Khali is set to be in this year's rumble as far as I'm aware. Sheffield is still some time away from being back, Tarver is fit again but unsure if he will be still be with the company for much longer. Goldust is a good bit away I believe, 3 months? I'd love Christian to come back and win the rumble and face Edge at mania, but he will probably be up against Del Rio at mania(if fit)

It was meant to be a serious match but Hogan refused to job that night so HBK rightly or wrongly took it into his own hands to over-sell Hogan's moves as a payback. The match was the longest of the night as it was the main event, so WWE had banked on this as the big fight. Sadly it was rotten. Cena best in the business? Really Batista is a strange one as his MMA career has never really worked and apparently he made noises to return. I think Awesome Kong, HHH and one other superstar will atleast be in this 40 man RR. Not sure about Taker I suppose he could make his return on Smackdown at any time.

What is up with Ziggler and Morrison? Feel free to state which wrestlers you think are currently the best in WWE and which ones have potential.

Did you see the Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler match at Bragging Rights? Many people believe it was match of the year, but when it's HBK vs Taker at WM that wins hands down for the emotional part rather than technical wrestling match. Ziggler has produced some excellent matches over the last couple of years and if he was given time he would be able to put on excellent matches with the likes of Edge, Christian and so on. Hogan vs HBK occurred at Summerslam 2005 and was awful. There is a youtube video showing HBK over-selling the whole match. My point was not that HBK is a poor wrestler it's the fact many fans get emotionally involved in big draw matches and will make it out to be amazing even if the wrestling on show is not top drawer. Prime example was HBK vs Undertaker this year, but I'm not even going to get started on the matches between those both.