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Not defending him, but surely you can switch that about If you are diving then you'll put your hands out knowing your gonna hit the deck, if you are fouled you wont have time to throw your arms out to brace your fall

So he wasn't certain it was a foul, being "confident" isn't the same as certain And again, by awarding the free kick before the penalty pretty much ruled out any chance of the penalty being awarded because VAR would never see his free kick award as a clear and obvious error

So why not just blow right away, its certainly not going to come under the clear and obvious error category Imo it just makes the system look worse than it is, the only time the play should continue like that did is if the ref isnt sure

What @RandomGuy.Is saying i think is that Robertson should have awarded the penalty but asked for a check on the free kick at the same time (would have happened anyway) By awarding the free kick, there was absolutely no chance it was being overturned as it wouldnt come close to a clear and obvious error so VAR would just go with refs initial decision

Thats what I was trying to say last night, The foul on johnston is debatable, but Robertson clearly didn't think so hence the immediate award of the free kick when hoilett went down, He chose not to blow straight away but instead give the free kick when aberdeen wanted the penalty, and that sequence of events just makes it look way worse If Robertson had any doubts in his mind about the foul, he rightly plays on but surely he awards the penalty and not the free kick and then asks VAR to check the potential free kick

So you believe when robertson awarded the free kick, VAR checked back to the free kick incident and in a split second checked all the angles and agreed with him? Your last paragraph is correct, only issue is robertson didn't award the game changing event decision, what should have happened is Robertson sees potential foul on johnston, but allows play to continue Robertson sees vickers foul hoilett, awards penalty but indicates to VAR that johnston might have been foul (VAR will check back anyway as per its procedure) Free kick is spotted after a VAR delay and robertson indicates celtic free kick But he never once awarded the penalty

VAR wont have checked for any foul as robertson gave the free kick, the minute he blew hos whistle and awarded the free kick VAR became redundant in that situation As for the last paragraph, if the ref believed it was a penalty so awarded the original free kick, why let play go on, just award the free kick as it happened

But we are now at the point where refs wont blow for fouls they clearly see, its not a potential slight contact, ref might not have the best angle etc The aberdeen boy jumped, missed the ball along with johnston, but jumped into him, some refs give that some wont, robertson obviously does so just fucking blow the whistle And he didnt do the procedure correctly either, when hoilett went down he immediately gave the free kick, if he's delaying then what for, its not like he allowed VAR to check for a foul in the build up, hoilett went down and he immediately gave the foul on johnston

As much as i hate saying it, i dont think it should be a penalty anyway, vickers is in the act of clearing the ball and hoilett plants his foot in front of vickers before playing the ball, theres a strong argument that he is impeding vickers from playing the ball Switch the roles around, say the ball is rolling along the 6 yard line, striker has an empty net to tap it into, as he goes to strike the ball a defender plants a leg in front of him, not touching the ball and stopping the strikers leg from making contact with the ball and the chance is missed, imo thats a penalty as the striker is impeded while attempting to play the ball

Celtic fans claimed ref bias against them against livi for exactly the same thing when kyogo done it

Didn't the celtic fans want a penalty away to livi when kyogo did the same?

Sorry somehow doesn't feel enough when we lose a pet, they form such a massive part of you Hope you and the family are doing as well as can be

Decided to binge this last few days, might seem daft but I wanted long enough between playing the game and watching this so i didnt automatically nit pick at changes made for the show (i took ages before i went to play TLOU game) It was fucking fantastic viewing, normally im quite easily tuned out by the slow moments, but even in this you watched every minute, it just kept you hooked Sam's death (which I remembered obviously) still hit like a truck, just an unbelievably set out scene, all the way to ellies message to him on his trace pad Onto fallout now

That would be the same BBC who Rangers have been at loggerheads with for years over its journalists reporting of us Yup defo a rangers fanzine

These shows know that listeners wont tune in to someone phoning about the current issues with grassroot football across the country, and how sport needs to move with the times blah blah blah They want absolute rockets phoning up complaining about f**k all and making a scene from nothing so everyone talks about it And thats any phone in across the UK no doubt

They do vet them, and they do want the absolute moonhowlers on it because one leads to another 50 trying to counter the point or agree with the point and has people talking about said moonhowlers and posting links to the moonhowlers segments

Nothing beats the comfort of knowing your pal absolutely loves sleeping right up next to you, the minute i get home from work he's like my shadow, and i fucking love every minute of it, my last dog was like this as a puppy too

You think? Mind he's a teacher, all they do is drink and smoke weed

You think the lodge would make it that difficult?

The goldson handball was as minimal as they come and it was a deflection up onto him very very close by But unfortunately for us thats the rules now, and unfortunately for celtic the rules are johnston made contact with silva, theatrics or not All 3 VAR decisions today were soft but correct

That i can understand, the interception is clearly obvious, you see the ball moving differently, theres no debate on that The debate on the contact is likely why it's slowed down, the ref has to be sure there's contact or not, and using slow motion is obviously better for that The only time slow motion really distorts VAR is when a ref is asked about a tackle possibly being a straight red card id say

It has happened yes but today it didn't and in fact out of the 5 VAR decisions at Ibrox in OF games this season imo all 5 were eventually the correct calls As for the ref coming to the wrong decision after looking at VAR, then the bigger concern is that two refs not one, have came to the wrong decision So, after the revelation that celtic have had 80% of the VAR decisions at ibrox in OF games go their way, do you still not have faith in it?

Nope i believe the 4 against my team weren't clear and obvious errors, and that we have been shafted in OF games this season (isnt that the answer im supposed to give) Its hard to describe, everyone has a different opinion on C&OE but there's an argument that if a team concedes a goal or is denied a goal/penalty because the ref misses a foul then while its not 100% clear and obvious (all 3 decisions today for example) they are still reasons enough for VAR to get involved If VAR wasn't used today and celtic never won and the goldson handball was spotted post match, would you sit back and say "ach well its a tough one to spot"

I find it fucking tremendous how you dont have faith in VAR when literally twice at ibrox now VAR has ruled out 3 Rangers goals that were given by the onfield officials and gave celtic a penalty that the onfield officials missed VAR has been used 5 times in Ibrox OF games this season, 4 times to the benefit of celtic, Yet you don't have faith in it, fucking hell And even better, the one decision you funnily enough think VAR made a poor call on is the only one that went against celtic

Simply wondering why one decision isnt clear and obvious while the other is, when both times the onfield ref never seen the foul