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2 hours ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:
I disagree that 21 seats were lost because of the idea of indyref2,
It's right there in the 2017 manifesto. It's what we campaigned on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40091999
Hold a second independence referendum "at the end of the Brexit process"
Either way we weren't going to be able to push for an independence referendum because of how poorly we did that year.
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2 hours ago, Grant228 said:
It's odd that you've mentioned that it's infectious, but not said anything about how it's less dangerous.
It's odd that you've not addressed my point at all.
2 hours ago, Grant228 said:Odd that. Has the omicron variant killed 140,000? Because that's what you've made it sound like there.
Odd that. Because what I said was the pandemic has killed 140,000, not Omicron. Odd in fucking deed.
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1 minute ago, Grant228 said:
Is it? Surely science can only give you information, it's then upto the personal to interpret and decide what action is necessary?
Is it bollocks. You think Boris Johnson and Sajid Javid know what to do when faced with a 4x more infectious strain of disease in the middle of a pandemic that's killed 140,000 people so far? Do they f**k.
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44 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
If that's what you think chief.
That's the science, chief. Apart from viewers in England.
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1 hour ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:
In my opinion, the "we had to wait to be dragged out of the EU" argument is pure semantics.
I think a lot of people forget that Sturgeon had been touting the idea of an indy referendum because of the result of the EU referendum and we promptly lost 21 seats in 2017. That set us back through to 2018 and at least until the Brexit disaster started to be revealed under May. "We had to wait" isn't semantics it's the reality.
1 hour ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:I think nationalists are right to be asking at this point, what difference will that make, if those MPs have no intention of forming an independent government in Edinburgh? The same question can be posed for Holyrood.
The MPs won't be forming the government, it'll be the MSPs and if you don't think voting SNP is worthwhile, who is?
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Because there will always be arseholes who would ignore the rules and party like it's 1999 if the restrictions were brought in immediately. This way we get to have a reasonable Xmas and then a restricted new year.Because I think the measures are simply too heavy handed and excessive.
If the variant is so severe we need to be putting restrictions on then I don't get why we need to wait four? Days for the restrictions to be imposed either.0 -
Even though it's the right thing to do. Got it.Because its another policy/decision that I simply don't agree with.0 -
Why would a health measure designed to keep the public safe be a "straw that breaks the camel's back"?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-59748581?s=09
Brexit fishing deal: Kirkella owners 'devastated' by UK-Norway pact
Another great Brexit deal!0 -
End of SNP still not quite imminent.0 -
Wales orders rule of six in pubs from Boxing Day with just 30 people indoors at eventsWas there no other alternative like? Sturgeon couldn't have done anything else?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-wales-orders-rule-six-25763884?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
Indoor events of more than 30 people will be banned and outdoor events of more than 50 people will be banned.
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That's not an intelligent answer to a question about the current Covid restrictions, son.Maybe in the 6 years between the last referendum and COVID actually having a coherent strategy in place to gain independence.0 -
You appear to rely on the Daily Mail for your healthcare advice.Depending on who you speak to will depend on the severity of the restrictions, for some this will mean unemployment, for others it will effect there mental health. If its slightly inconvenient for you then fair, that won't be the case for everyone.
London has platued, cases have actually dropped over the past couple of days, as data suggested it would, which is precisely why these restrictions are a farce. If, as it looks that cases have platued, you'll have England sailing on through the next three weeks, meanwhile up here you'll have people with absolutely needless restrictions.
That's not a plateau:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nhsRegion%26areaName=London
As for mental health, the lockdown effect may be overstated: https://www.samaritans.org/scotland/about-samaritans/research-policy/coronavirus-and-suicide/one-year-on-data-on-covid-19/what-do-we-know-about-coronavirus-and-suicide-risk/
Sturgeon would get pelters if she ignored SAGE advice and it turned into yet another wave of record deaths. Better safe than dead or permanently impaired.
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2 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
Like not chucking us into a lockdown? She's been made to look ridiculous by Boris Johnson.
You have to be kidding. We're not in lockdown, we have to suffer some slightly inconvenient restrictions and Johnson is playing with fire, London alone is suffering tens of thousands of more new cases per day:
"In the most recent week of complete data (10 December 2021 - 16 December 2021) 131,061 new cases were identified in London, a rate of 1456 cases per 100,000 population. This compares with 52,029 cases and a rate of 578 for the previous week"
https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus--covid-19--cases
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12 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
Was there no other alternative like? Sturgeon couldn't have done anything else?
Like what?
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11 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
Did leaving the EU come as a surprise? Was there any prior warning to that happening?
The mandate is "being taken out of the EU against our will" not "going to be taken out of the EU against our will". There was always a slim chance a deal could be done as per the proposal to keep Scotland in the customs union and the single market.
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12 minutes ago, Grant228 said:
2-Those that are fans of Premier league clubs are aware the clubs have been put in the situation by Covid.
FTFY.
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2 hours ago, Grant228 said:
How big a number does it need to be for her popularity to be touched? All my football supporting pals who voted snp are done with her,
Shouldn't they be more pissed off at the club that blocked bringing forward the winter break?
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1 hour ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:
While it's understandable that for the past year the Scottish Government has devoted the majority of their efforts to the responding to the pandemic, what can be said about the other six years?
You can count out the years 2015, 2016, 2017 we were never going to have a referendum so soon after 2014. The first positive case of Covid in Scotland was 1st March 2020 and we've been playing catchup ever since so that's the last year and a half effectively ruled out. That leaves you 2018 and 2019 but we hadn't been dragged out of the EU by then, that happened on the 1st January 2020. SO that leaves you the first two months of 2020 when we could conceivably have had a referendum and the Scottish Government "failed their mandate".
1 hour ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:A particular low point for me was the bizarre "Save The UK from Brexit" escapade, which we got instead of indy.
It was a UK election, sport. The mandate for Indy lies in Holyrood.
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UK vaccine manufacturing centre which received more than £200m in Government funding is put up for sale
Because of course it fucking is.
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1 hour ago, Ayrshire Analytica said:
I get the feeling that this paragraph could have been written at any time over the past seven years, yet all there's been is, successive, squandered mandates.
That's not all there's been, there was that pandemic thingy that killed 6,000 Scots too.
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Cold War Steve.
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1 hour ago, jakedee said:
Good to see the priorities are sorted.
Pray for the NHS in England and Wales.
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4 hours ago, Kenneth840 said:
You have turned my opinion into something totally different to what i was meaning.
Of course people born and raised here will be Scots. That should surely go without saying.
Then we're not going to be a minority then, are we?
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When will indyref2 happen?
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Now, do you think Boris Johnson and Sajid Javid know what to do when faced with a 4x more infectious strain of disease in the middle of a pandemic that's killed 140,000 people so far?
Address the point or f**k off.