Durnford

Okay - frankly I am outraged about what went on on Sunday; how they got permission from the club to carry out such a display and that's even ignoring the pyrotechnics. The club really should be called on to explain their stance on the matter; and I mean from the top; not one of the poor women in reception who have been receiving all the flack. It was embarrassing enough anyway; but allowed to stand whilst SKY were doing their live broadcast and beaming it around the world? If they paid us £100k to be allowed to make that live demonstration then leastways that would be some sort of a reason, albeit morally questionable, but to pander to them on a whim raises some serious questions. EDIT - Sorry for the rant; still haven't calmed down.

I'm still trying to work out what a mega banner about the Irish Easter rising has to do with a football match in Scotland but, more particularly, why they were given permission by the club. If they want to do that at their home grand then that's their prerogative but that seemed deliberately inflammatory. How would they like it if every team that visited their ground had huge banner listing the names of all the people murdered by the IRA?

Have to agree; Anderson is still a very good player. His confidence but be at about zero level with Martindale's use of him. Anderson was never an impact sub; he wears defenses down by chasing the ball and closing down players all of the time; then the gaps start to appear - you cant do that for the last ten minutes of a game.

If the only requirement for being a defender is that you need to be over 6 foot then Sean Kelly qualifies as a defender. Unfortunately it isn't.

I actually left seven minutes before the end of the game today. only the second time its happened in half a century of watching football.

In hindsight I wonder if some of his demeanor on the night might be because he was worried about the reception seeing as how poorly the team are doing. Fair play to him for standing up there in the first place.

No-one was on crutches if that helps. Mikey Devlin mumbling at the floor about how bad its been for the club and him personally. It was great as a sales evening TBH. Not criticising the guy for how he feels per se but the rest of the team were listening to him and hardly getting energized by it. Yes; its been a very poor season but there are always positives. But, even if there weren't, there is a a way of dressing things up so that they don't sound so damn awful. Talk about the battle back to fitness; the determination to improve; players supporting each other etc. etc.

Was at the sponsors meeting tonight at the stadium. Joel Nouble was a perfect gentleman; plenty of time for the young supporters and chatting with supporters. TBH most of the other players put in the effort also. The interview with David Black and Mikey Devlin virtually had me opening my wrists. FFS we all know we're in a bad position but we don't want to hear how bad its been. I appreciate they're down but try and put a bit of spin on it. All the players put in an appearance including Aphelele Teto and Miles Welch-Hayes. As far as I know the only player missing was Morgan Boyes which is perhaps understandable.

Always though scrapping the youth team had more to do with throwing our toys out of the pram following Malky Mackay's Project Brave debacle rather than true financial decisions. A few years back one of my sons volunteered as a coach on the youth teams. This meant that he could get his various badges and the club got his services for free; he wasn't the only one either. Yes; you need to pay out for kit etc. but a lot of that used to be covered by periodic bucket collections. Some of the communications coming out at the time seemed to try and blame the SFA/SPFL/Brave for the need to curtail the youth system perhaps in the hope that they would change their mind. What actually happened was that various people expressed "regret" and then it all disappeared under the carpet. Project Brave made no sense, or at least the way it was delivered, but our management hardly covered themselves in glory either. Project Brave

With all the uncertainty obviously we worry for peoples' jobs etc. but I also wonder about the ladies team and the academy. Both seem to be doing pretty well but have virtually no spectators. Funds are needed to keep these going; leastways with the academy there is the ability to fill some seats on the bench with "prospects" thus hopefully meaning we can have a smaller first team; but that doesn't apply for the woman's football. Most of us are guilty, in as much as we haven't been along to watch them on their Sunday games, even though we get in free with our season tickets. I do, however, feel its important to have a senior woman's team in the area to encourage those developing into the game; the fact that they are doing well is a bonus. It would be a real shame if these machinations put all that at risk.

Yes - not only have the posts been removed but all quotes from other people posts have also been removed. Somebody obviously spent a couple of hours sorting that mess out.

Actually I already pointed that out....

Actually I heard one of the red-brick universities funded a two year research project to clarify if excessive consumption of alcohol impacted chances of getting good exam results. FFS - I did that research fifty years ago and didn't even get paid for it. SPOILER ALERT - the answer was YES

Sorry to interrupt this with football but.... Some how I doubt this is good news for Livingston; With all the "victimization" statements going on will Robertson be keen to prove he's not anti Celtic?

As far as I'm aware most of the posters on this forum do not particularly like either Ward or Martindale. The bogus account trio, though, seem to be in the camp of replace at all costs and bring in their saviour on a metaphorical white charger. The majority of posters on there seem to think that would be worse than what we have already; as shite as that may be. The level of anger etc. displayed by the bogus poster does display a kind of "if you're not with us you're against us" sort of mentality - where have we come across that before? Speaking personally I would like to see Ward and co. replaced with a professional experienced board; ideally with funds to spend. Also ideally not some fly-by-night spiv and his cronies. Everything else is irrelevant; court cases etc. personally I couldn't give a stuff. What does worry me is the way that this is being broadcast as some sort of trump card without any details which does seem to display some fairly worrying trends in the mental state of the poster. I'm not trying to be offensive here but it does seem there's a lot more going on than first appears.

Actually I don't think Livi has actually claimed that he knows anything about the court case; it was Numpty Dumpty. I'm actually reasonably convinced that Livi is one person with one account. Although perhaps not a prolific poster over the years he has been fairly consistent. The other three bogus accounts on this thread however are pretty definitely one person.

Note to all - anyone wanting an argument I'm your man at the moment. Earlier I was looking at my phone which had a cracked screen and had managed to get a very small amount of water ingress. The screen was like someone had done a Jackson Pollock on it with black streaks all over the place. it also registered some bogus key-strokes. I started to think I heard some off clicks coming from the phone followed by some fizzing. Suddenly it got very hot and a flame; yes flame, appeared perpendicularly almost as if it came from a blow torch. Then the whole battery caught fire; heat was intense as I removed it from the house and threw it into the garden. With the smoke alarm going wild the fire burnt itself out fairly quickly considering the degree of heat it generated. The smoke was reduced far quicker than my blood pressure. On my second large whisky already - anyone wanting a towlsin?

Its funny; on Sunday I was waiting at West Calder railway station and a brown coloured van with Braidwood Motor Company in gold writing drove in to the carpark and parked half on the disabled parking space and half in front of the platform exit. This was in spite of there being plenty of proper parking spaces less than 20 feet away. The van sat there for 10 minutes with its engine running until another car chose to park right behind him. This seemed to irritate him and he did a ten point manoeuvre until he was able to drive straight out of the station carpark (I assume either his passenger had got out or he'd given up waiting). Whereas not actually a motoring offence it did seem to represent total disregard for anyone else and basic common decency. Isn't Braidwood Motor company connected to someone in all this?

With so many different camp; pro and anti trust; Pro and anti ward; pro and anti RHS etc there's only one way an old fossil like me can respond.....

I'd love all the waring factions to be able to step away and someone fresh to come in. Unfortunately though we've experienced that a couple of times before in our short history and its not always what it seems. With regard to the trust I'm not sure "resurgence" is the right word. They've always been there but like the fire service (or the AA) you never hear about them until you need them. Actually that's probably not the best example seeing as how all the investigation that are ongoing into bullying and misogyny in the Fire Service. I suspect you are not allowed to see a list of members for any organisation but you should be entitles to know the board members particularly if you're a member of the trust. After all you'd probably be needed to vote for them at the AGM/EGM. I am not a member of the trust myself; I'm not sure if its an annual or lifetime subscription but suspect they've got extremely limited funds. Unfortunately they're really caught in the middle and sitting on the fence (as legally they should do) is unlikely to win many friends on either side.

Just checked - there appear to be 71 John Ward's in central Scotland; about three quarters can be discounted immediately because of age group. One is a barrister (currently inactive); another a school teacher, a third works for a government department (unspecified). No doubt whoever posted this carried out due diligence?

Read the thread on the Trust Facebook page. What a sad state of affairs and totally avoidable in my opinion. The statement should have been thoroughly check and verified before being put out. It reads like one person's opinion rather than an organised update fro the trust board. I am particularly unhappy to see Rose McAulay accused of lying when all I suspect she was trying to do was to help clarify the matter. She didn't write the article but was attempting to respond. I believe I know Rose from numerous trips on the supporters bus; is it is the same person, and I firmly believe it is, then I have always found her friendly and helpful and thoroughly trustworthy. Unfortunately I'm not sure Duncan Bennett's response, although perhaps understandable was the best way to respond given that they are looking to encourage new members. The entire board is made up of volunteers who will have daytime jobs etc. so its understandable that they might not have much available time but they still need to ensure they do things properly. One post being sent out unchecked caused a whole barrel load of trouble for pretty much the entire board and their helpers.

Agreed Actually the 4 points at the split is pretty achievable as presumably both the St Johnstone and Ross County games should be at home. win both those and they're guaranteed to drop points when they play each other BUT We would need to win five of our remaining eight games at least - not bad considering we've only managed that three time for the entire season. And I particularly agree with this " I think even if we were to stay up it would be despite him rather than thanks to him"

Anyway hypothetical question (actually highly hypothetical but there you go) If we were to beat Celtic and Aberdeen and get a point against Hearts; would that change people's opinion about him needing to leave? Personally I think his position became pretty much untenable after Motherwell defeat at home from one goal up

If that really the way of it maybe you should both be on each other's ignore lists. As much as I can be irritated about LIVI's dog with a bone attitude; I also know that he was right about Massone when he was warning us all about him which was, I think a couple of years before Rankin even looked at Livingston FC.