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It must be absolutely dugshite being a Hibee.
Shame.
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Going to be shite getting boo-ed by both home supporters and Hearts fans for attending away games.
Looking forward to the leg room though.
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36 minutes ago, Yorky said:
Hearts will come straight back up, sadly many Hearts supporters on kickback want to see as many clubs as possible go to the wall and see maximum damage to the Scottish game, which will also effect them in the long run. There are no winners here and the longer it drags on the worse it’s going to be for every club, including Hearts. And who ends up suffering, the average supporter who had no part of any decisions that were made. Those on kickback seem to again think they are going to receive millions in compensation or still be a top level club next season along with suggesting wrongdoing by individuals. I honestly feel they are in for a shock.
I think this is where the problem lies where people are taking what is said on kickback or twitter as gospel for the whole Hearts support. Absolutely no chance are the vast majority of people on kickback and twitter seriously wanting clubs to go to the wall, it's all for a reaction. Going by this thread it does seem to have worked tbf.
I'll happily spraff off some shite on here about how we're going to win millions from the SPFL and how the rest of Scottish football can crumble for all I care, when in reality and I'm chatting to pals that support Hearts or whoever else, the majority just want football to be back regardless of which league we're in. Even all of this chat about boycotting away games etc, I'll be fairly surprised if it comes to fruition in any real scale, I'm hardly going to turn down a game on my doorstep in Dundee after 6 months of no football because of a Rangers-esque boycott. Still looking forward to a hostile reception though, absolutely would not have it any other way.
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11 minutes ago, Empty It said:32 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:At that stage in a player's career they need more recovery time.
The one time that Levein actually rested Berra was for the first trip to Paisley, but then Halkett got injured and he ended up playing most of that game anyway.
If both Halkett and Soutar had been available or if Levein had trusted Dikamona then he could have been given a lighter workload.Yeah I forgot he was actually carrying a knock that game he was subbed on, it also doesn't help when every time he touched the ball the whole stadium was giving him pelters.
He was shite before he started getting pelters and that's why fans started getting on his back.
For what it's worth, I think he was hung out to dry by Levein as the main tactic seemed to be fanny around the back until we were under enough pressure that Berra had to punt it long up the park, usually to the linesman and out of play.
If Souttar and Halkett stay then we shouldn't need Berra, I'd much rather see one of the prospects in the youth team come through if need be.
I don't think he was much of a captain on the pitch towards the last few months of his time here either before going on loan.
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Didn't see this coming at all. Sad to see Stendel leave as I was really hoping he was going to be given a chance to bring in more of his own players and get rid of the wasters we have in the squad, maybe he didn't want to stay anyway.
Considering we want to bounce straight back up it's hard to argue with this since he's proven to be successful in the championship and work with younger players which is what I imagine we'll be doing this season. It's also hard to forget how terrible his football was once we were back in the Premiership and his inability to win the big matches. I'm hoping much of the was down to Levein's influence once we were in the Premiership and given another chance he'll not make the same mistakes (if we go straight back up).
Nice to see confidence in our budgets regardless of the legal outcome if we're able to be dishing out compensation.
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1 hour ago, Aim Here said:
Hearts will have pretty much poisoned any goodwill they ever had in Scottish football
What does this even mean?
If people still had goodwill towards us after we stole a bunch of money off some pensioners and a poppy charity then I'm sure we'll be fine tbh.
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9 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said:
How about two leagues of 20?
Can we not go one step further? One big league of 44 next year, play each other once through random draw of home and away.
Revert back to current system in 2021-2022 with the top 12 playing the premiersip, the next 10 in the championship etc and bottom 2 back down to the lowland/highland leagues.
Unless Hearts finish below 12th, in which case rinse and repeat every year until we're guaranteed Premiership status.
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4 minutes ago, Bohemian said:
Its lucky for hearts thar Celtic have more than one vote and apparently Sky Sports has one now..
There's no chance there's any truth in it but let's not pretend that while they don't have a vote, Sky Sports absolutely has Scottish football by the balls and if they wanted something they would have the presence to force it through.
Anyway, Hail Hail.
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Disappointing we've been spending money on all of this legal advice when we could have found out we have no case by reading Pie and Bovril for free.
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24 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:
If you're wanting to reconstruct the entire league format just to save yourselves from relegation, then yes, you need to make it beneficial to more than just Hearts.
As it happens, you have not.
As I said, I don't agree with the way Ann Budge went about that, djchapsticks actually gets it spot on below, it's a halfway house where should have either nailed our colours to the mast and went the whole f**k you route or tried to be a bit more subtle in how we worked in a solution without making it all about us.
22 minutes ago, Sparticus said:You wont be surprised when this gets booted out and you have to play in the championship next season then?
That's your level based on sporting merit.
Yes, I expect us to be in the Championship next season.
No, I don't think it's based on sporting merit in a 38 game league. We probably would have gone down as we were horseshit, but we'll never know.
17 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:So if it's clearly about self-preservation, why the half-arsed 'we want this to be for everyone's survival' comments in the first place?
She should state her fucking case and move on. Don't hide behind some sort of faux-altruism over the sake of the Scottish game. I'd have more respect for her if she'd came out and went 'no f**k everyone else affected, you're shafting us....we want our place back and don't care how many small clubs we need to step over to get there' as at least then, she'd have actually proposed what she meant.
I agree, I'd actually have rather we just went the full 'f**k everyone else' route as although we're at the forefront of self preservation at the moment, let's not pretend for a second the every other club isn't doing exactly the same. Honestly find the holier than thou argument from both sides (whether it be about 'sporting integrity' or 'saving clubs from extinction') cringe as f**k.
16 minutes ago, theauldyin said:but in the end she only drawing up plans to save hearts, not to save Scottish football
Why should she draw up plans to save Scottish football? There's a group of people earning a good amount of money at the SPFL that should be doing exactly that.
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11 minutes ago, Sparticus said:
You can tell in what she says that she believes a 12 team top league is best for Scottish football, and it is.
Hearts couldnt care less about everyone else.Remember who they'd owed 26M to just six or seven years ago?
Why should we care about anyone else? Ann's document is clearly about self preservation (not the way I would have gone about it, would have tried to be more subtle about it) but in the end it shouldn't be our job to draw up plans to save other clubs, or indeed Scottish Football. That's the SPFL's job and this whole shambles has made it clear that's not going to happen.
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37 minutes ago, Zing. said:
“This is not the time to be expelling one of the League’s biggest and best resourced Clubs from the Premiership.“
“In short, the Premiership needs Hearts more than the Championship does.”
Ann Budge only deals in facts.
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https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-1-2-3-4-5-6-7
Disappointing Ann is still being taken along for a ride by the SPFL in regards to reconstruction which is unlikely to happen. Glad we've grown a bit more of a backbone and set out exactly what will happen if/when it's rejected.
Who would have thought it would be us, Heart of Midlothian Football Club, once thieves of Bosnian Pensions, that would save Scottish football.
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That was a cracking game, probably lucky to take a point after that second half performance but would have been happy with that before the game.
Honestly thought we'd win by 2 or 3 after the first half but fair play to St Johnstone for playing us at our own game in the second half, genuinely could have scored with every attack.
We were brutal at the back but Sean Clare has proven me wrong since Stendel came in, delighted that he got the equaliser today.
I still can't see us going down with the spirit we have, no chance were we taking anything from that game under Levein.
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6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
38 points is the target that usually sees teams finish 8th or above.
So you'll need 25 points from 17 games. 6 or 7 wins, and a couple of draws, in 17 games, in other words.
This is where the split becomes fairly crucial for us, if we can pick up form before we start playing St Mirren, Hamilton and Hibs again in April and May then I'd fancy us to be picking up 3 or 4 of these wins during that time alone.
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Forgot how it felt to come away feeling positive after a game. It's cruel we didn't win that game, even with 10 men we looked the better team. I thought Pereira was possibly at fault for the goal as he seemed to creep further away from his right post but apart from that it's hard to fault any of the players.
Didn't really believe how bad Aberdeen were until today, granted in the first game of the season they wey were poor but sitting 4th I thought they'd have more about them them. Bizarre McGinn doesn't start since he's by far the most creative player in the team (alongside Logan).
For others it might seem bizarre for Aberdeen fans to be calling for McInnes to go given their position but it's absolutely justified imo, that's 4th in a terrible, terrible league, they should be clear in 3rd place.
For us, I'm much more positive than I was 3 days ago, I'm glad the players (importantly Sean Clare who I've been screaming abuse at for 10 months) and the manager see what it means to the fans when the effort is put in. I don't think there was anyone I'd pick out as being poor.
For the first time in 2 months I'm hopeful we might actually survive this season.
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I thought Hibs played well for the first 45 minutes, played Stendel at his own game and closed us down at every opportunity. We probably edged the second half but I reckon part of that, similar to the Celtic game, is because Hibs realised we are never going to score so the game was over.
This is probably the worst it's been seeing Hearts in my lifetime, so many players that don't care about wearing maroon, the whole feeling at the club seems worringly similar to the Terry Butcher days at Hibs.
The only positive is that this was the best chance for Hibs to put 5 or 6 past us and they didn't bother turning up in the second half.
Interesting to see any Hearts fans defending the board after this.
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6 hours ago, Muzza81 said:
Okay cool, we will build the team around him and Cochrane if that is all it takes. Smashing.
Cochrane is shite now, it's all about Andy Irving, who without wanting to talk him up too much is the Scottish equivalent of Tony Kroos.
7 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:
You think Kenny miller watches him every week?No, but is Kenny Miller the only pundit in Scottish football who rates Hickey?
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14 minutes ago, Muzza81 said:
Funny that a deflected late goal has now turned an decent enough performance from Hickey (nothing exceptional) into him being the right back solution for Scotland. Hearts fans love a sweeping exaggeration.
He played well in one of our biggest games of the season and he's only 17 years old, I think that alone is pretty fucking impressive.
1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said:
Kenny Miller was saying last night ‘yet again we’ve produced an exceptional left back, how do we get him into the Scotland team’.
I’m no expert but the only time I’ve seen him he basically chucked the game for hearts at Pittodrie.
Hopefully he is as good as they say but I doubt anyone can say with much confidence.I'm not away to say he's going to be the next Andy Robertson as has been pointed out before we have a great knack for ruining young players, however I feel like if pundits and fans that are watching him every week are saying he looks an excellent prospect, with some confidence, it's a better indicator than the one game you've watched him in.
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That was carnage.
Honestly feel sorry for people that don't like football, imagine living without moments like that.
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38 minutes ago, Muzza81 said:
Hearts fans should be more concerned with the utter vermin in their support than a statement or two.
To be fair, the two are fairly intertwined at the moment. I agree with Ann Budge's hardline stance against the idiots and bigots in the support but the more she disillusions herself with the support the more vocal the idiots seem to become.
Sadly it's partly down to their own rebel against Ann Budge and partly because they actually quite like winding up other Hearts fans.
If Ann Budge goes I think we'll see the fans back united and this sort of thing will be more self policed.
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35 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:
Unless Eckauskas has an awful lot more friends than we might reasonably assume she’ll have been bought out by that point
By next year she’ll be gone anyway. The lunatic’s who would otherwise be howling in her garden will probably still congratulate themselves on “getting rid of the daft cow”
Arguing about whether Budge is a stupid old bitch who’s killing the club or a heroine that saved it is a pretty moot point as the clock is running down on the Budge era no matter how desirable or otherwise you think that prospect is.
It’s been obvious for a while that not being happy with Levein was entirely sensible yet Levein’s most furious critics are fucking morons. This is a confusing paradox until you consider what’s really driving the fury
Oscar Wilde once observed that all literary criticism is essentially autobiography. And I’d suggest that this wave of criticism is essentially the same. When people post angry posts or chant angry chants they’re not really talking about Levein or Budge or any of our black players. They’re talking about themselves and shouting about how much of a real Jambo they are. The fury directed at “happy clappers” and “apologists” is an attempt to claim status relative to others.
One could of course read this post as a piece of criticism that lives up to Oscar’s adage at least as far as those it addresses and says more about me than the “Proper Hearts Men” that I’ve disparaged . You may be in the process of mentally preparing an ad hominem attack on me as a pretentious, over educated, intellectually snobbish tosser. In which case I’d like to plead in mitigation that at least I have some self awareness in that regard unlike some utter cretins out there and I’d also reassure you that if you’ve followed my line of reasoning this far then I don’t think that you personally are a fucking moron. I should also point out that I’ve had a few beers so I hope you can forgive any typos
Good try, but this is still only the second worst thing I've read today.
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10 minutes ago, JamieThomas said:
The problem with that being it means the patronising arsehole owns us even longer.
Yep, I actually think the best thing to do would do be try and fundraise whatever the gap is now to try and buy out Ann Budge sooner rather than later. Without knowing how much it is, it would seem much more pro-active to encourage disillusioned supporters to up their direct debit rather than risk losing them. As before though it all depends on what direction the FOH are taking with this.
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That statement is an absolute shocker, the disconnect between Ann Budge and the fans paying money week in, week out is horrific.
Starting off with 'all genuine Hearts supporters' was bad enough but to continue with that pish for the rest of the statement is quite an achievement. There's no way things can carry on now without some serious changes at the top, starting with Ann Budge.
If the Foundation of Hearts agree with this then they're going to see a pretty significant drop in the the number of subscriptions in the near future.
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Motherwell vs Hearts 18/9/22
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Posted · Edited by GorgieRoad
Absolutely no idea how that ended up 3-0, bizarrely deserved it for taking our chances but also couldn't really have complained if it was 1-0 Motherwell if it was one of those days. Unlike us to be so clinical but shows the difference that our signings have made in Shankland and Forrest.
Massive win for us going in to the international break.