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  1. 1 minute ago, Shades75 said:

    The correct course that this exchange should take is that you take the assertions and provide evidence for them.  Not hearsay.

    Once you've done that the opposition should respond, so, you first.

    Shit-throwing is loaded and deliberately mis-leading.

    No sir / ma'am

     

    the first post was an assertion that the media are all out to stir up anti yes sentiment. The thread was asking people to then debunk the stories. I don't see much debunking going on, just some images then a lot of lemmings agreeing at the disgrace. What in the content is made up or wrong ?

  2. On 15 March 2017 at 11:23, Karl Fletcher said:

    As posted elsewhere the lunatic fringe of the Unionist Media are back with a bang.

    As it should be a sideshow to the wider debate around independence perhaps it's best to confine their drivel to one thread where it can be discussed and debunked.

    It's barely been two days since the announcement but here's what we're up against so far.

     

    express

     

    mail

     

    Telegraph front page

     

    Don't see much debunking going on. Just some pictures then a rant. What's inaccurate about the stories please ?

  3. 1 minute ago, Shades75 said:

    I hope that we can further this discussion about what has been forced upon the Scottish people without a "mandate".

    There is decades of material to work with.

    Go for it ? Is it the Scotland doesn't vote for a Tory govt argument ? We vote as the UK in general elections and had a free choice to stop doing that in 2014. We chose not to. 

  4. 3 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

    You're not very bright, nor are you fooling anyone other than yourself.

    Enlighten me then. No polls show desire for a second referendum, she doesn't have a majority so where does the mandate to hold one come from? Their manifesto stated that indy2 would happen after a material change (Brexit) but they didn't win a majority on that manifesto. 

  5. 4 hours ago, Łukasz said:

    Minter from orlandoblue.

    Whits a minter ?

    3 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

    orlandoblue is at the wind up.  You don't come onto this forum, a forum you hardly ever post on, and decide the most important issue is whether SNP MPs were right or wrong to applaud an outgoing Tory PM.

    You're right. I'd forgotten how easily people got uptight on here at the slightest hint of SNP criticism :lol:

     

    bring back the good old days of the forum, when things were simpler, kilt was a part of all debate and we could sit and watch SPLWWW and thunder monkey fight it out 

  6. 4 hours ago, kilbowie2002 said:

     


    Doctoring employment figures isnt an achievement, forcing people into unpaid work for benefits worth under the minimum wage isnt an achievement. Ive watched what the man had to say very clearly, hes talking utter shite.

     

    Surface scratched, nothing underneath. 

  7. 2 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said:


    They maintained a dignified silence, instead of boorish jeering. Thats what i want from my MP. If you genuinely think the tories havent fucked the country up then you live in a dream world.

    I didn't say if I thought one way or the other but I always like to scratch the surface with these things and see if people are just coming away with sound bites. 

     

    Go and watch what he said to Angus Robertson today about what he sees he's done for Scotland and tell me which parts he's wrong on. 

  8. 1 minute ago, kilbowie2002 said:

     


    Why should they be polite to the people who have utterly fucked this country up? Why should they play that game especially given that their constituents have been utterly shafted by this man?

     

    Because whether they've fucked the country up or not is a matter of opinion. That's how debate works and the SNP are doing a damn good job of convincing the people of Scotland that this is the case. That does not mean they need to portray themselves as angry little children. 

  9. 20 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said:


    Yes a politician should be defined by their politics, of fucking course he should, the man is a scum bag, just like his party he represents everything wrong with society. Why should SNP MP's engage with the politics of Westminster when they are the antithesis of it?????

    But they are Westminster politicians for the time being. It's not about engaging in politics but merely showing that they are mature polite human beings. What sort of example do they set by behaving like that?

  10. 2 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

    I would have preferred if Angus robbo had said heres a message from scotland "away n bile yer heid"

    f**k the pig shagging posh w**k

    Define posh, and why you see that as an insult?

  11. 1 minute ago, Cream Cheese said:

    Do you honestly think Corbyn genuinely felt what he was saying? It's all a load of pre scripted bollocks. I'm quite happy for the SNP to keep as far out of it as they possibly can.

    The point being he was able to rise above their political differences and act like a decent human being, not the I don't like you so I'll ignore you caper that the SNP went for. Where would we be if everyone in life acted like that ?

  12. 3 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

    Correct. Today it was the establishment parties leading it.

    Digby Jones currently spouting pish on BBC News, stating that Leadsom should be given a post because "she didn't do a Corbyn - not a top job because she's not experienced, but something...".

    You mean every party apart from the SNP?

  13. 3 minutes ago, strichener said:

    And one where tradition is not respected when the members clap. (c) John Bercow

    The circumstances for the rebuke for clapping and today are entirely different, but you know that. 

     

    Tony Blair received applause when he left too. 

  14. 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

    Human courtesy my arse.  I'm sure a subservient twat like you would have applauded, I'm glad our elected representatives had more principles.

    It is courtesy, which is important in all aspects of life. The location today was the seat of the democracy that everyone holds dear and the place that provides the SNP the platform to oppose everything the tories say and do. They should have known better as mature adults to behave accordingly. There's a time and place for everything but it's hard to get folks like you to understand or appreciate that. 

  15. 15 minutes ago, Mortar Bored said:

    I find myself in the strange position of agreeing with Orlandoblue.
    I'm an SNP fanboy & I had hoped that such a large delegation of SNP MPs would have changed the childish buffoonery that prevails in Westminster.
    I don't like Cameron, the only policy I can think of off the top of my head that we remotely agree on is same sex marriage. However, I would have applauded.
    Firstly, it's polite. Secondly, it does make the SNP look childish.

    We'd agree on a lot more things I'm sure. 

     

    Sadly the labels attached on here in recent history to "Sevco" fans or no voters mean it's largely a waste of time visiting :lol:

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