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  1. Missed this from Jim McMahon over the weekend.

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    A MESSAGE FROM OUR CHAIRMAN, JIM MCMAHON

    Saturday 04 April 2020

    I wanted to follow up on the recent statement by the Well Society which was so well received by our community and outline where we are as a club.

    The position we find ourselves in is unprecedented. The combined effects of the Covid-19 outbreak and the consequential economic disruption is an unpredictable event with potentially severe consequences. It hasn’t happened before. There is no map which shows the way out. There are no set of instructions we can follow.

    We go into this in a relatively strong position. For our club to thrive, it needs all the component parts: the board, executive management, coaching staff, players, fans and our owners, the Well Society, to work harmoniously. And since the move to fan ownership that has happened, everyone has a common purpose and all those different groups have pursued the good of the club without partiality or self-interest.

    That said, the threat to the club is real and we have no handrails to guide us safely through. But we do have each other and the community we are from.

    We will ensure that continues and we will be guided by a few key principles in the months ahead:

    1) The safety of all our people is our absolute priority. We were ahead of the curve in taking action to protect the health of our community. We will enact all that has been asked of us by government. We will not try to ‘game the system’ for short-term advantage.

    2) After that is guaranteed, as much as it can be in this situation, then the survival and long-term health of our club is the next key task. We are not in an immediate liquidity (cash) crisis. We have managed our resources diligently. But this is not a short-term problem in our view and we are looking at all possible funding packages to build up our cash reserves. We will update you regularly on this and can I thank all of you who are donating to the Well Society in these extremely difficult financial times.

    3) We will act decently in ensuring our future. Decently to our employees, players and fans and in particular we will continue to support the Community Trust, whose role is even more important in this situation.

    What we need most just now is clarity from the football authorities. With some certainty about how this and next season will look, we can plan and take the necessary actions.

    When you go into our CEO Alan Burrows’ office at Fir Park, the first thing you see is a quote on his wall which says “I shall either find a way or make one.”

    There is no clear and obvious way at present. But we all have so much of ourselves invested in the club we love that we will make one. We will come through this. Whatever has to happen, we will make happen with the long-term future of our community in mind and our club at its heart.

    Thank you all for your support.

    Jim McMahon
    Chairman

     


  2. Very "business as usual" chat in the press today - which feels a bit weird.

    Gallagher saying he's open to extending his deal (it's in The Sun - f**k the Sun but Viva Motherwell has the quote).

    Robinson saying we're actively discussing contracts and speaking to players in The Record.

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    Robinson said: “It’s probably possible to work from home as a manager in more ways than you might think, particularly at a club the size of ours.

    “We’re constantly working with budgets and there are certain things you can do on the phone that you’d be doing from your office anyway.

    “We’re still actively speaking to players, discussing contracts and looking at the finances. There are a lot of players out of contract at the end of this season who haven’t yet agreed deals.

    “We are also having ongoing talks with the players we’ve identified and are trying to sign. We have kept all of that going.

    “We have a lot of boys out of contract.

    “Some of them are in a precarious position but there’s no point in speaking to them right now because the current season might start up again.

    “A lot of our recruitment is online where we can watch every single game. That doesn’t stop, we are still constantly looking.

    “The players we’ve already spoken to elsewhere will continue to be spoken to. We’d already made decisions on players that we’d go for.

    There's a bunch of other stuff in the interview in terms of the strength and conditioning programs Andy Boles has put in place and how we're remotely monitoring them (in between Gallagher and Watt playing FIFA clearly) and the work Davie Henderson's been doing.


  3. 13 hours ago, Swello said:

    Interesting. Obviously the best thing about fan ownership is that we can tell random shysters to f**k off - but it doesn't appear that we were asked :)

     

    6 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

    Given we knocked back their Turnbull offer in summer, I'd be interested to know what they were offering for the entire club.

    Tbf, the original story (re: Hearts) was Stephen McGowan's and ran in the Scottish Daily Mail. I'll not link to it because...f**k the Daily Mail but looking at the spiel below it seems like they're generally just looking for opportunity and want to sit down and get facetime with prospective clubs who might be interested in their investment, they were the mob who were in for Thistle prior to the Weir fan ownership shambles - they also sound like absolute worst c***s tbh.

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    Speaking to Sportsmail from Florida he said: 'We want to take this opportunity in the current environment to say to clubs in Scotland, we are open for business.'

    'We are hearing there might be more flexibility with regard to dual ownership, which might be a good thing during this difficult period for clubs.

    'We can move fast for the right opportunity in the Scottish league and we are open to creative deals.'

    'We would look to bring the same methods we employ with our other clubs such as Barnsley - which is a young team, data-led, balancing a budget sensibly. We would look to run a club as a proper business.

    'To that end we have told the SFA and the league to feel free to get the word out that we are open to conversations with Scottish clubs.'

    Speaking to Sportsmail from Florida he said: 'We want to take this opportunity in the current environment to say to clubs in Scotland, we are open for business.'

    'We are hearing there might be more flexibility with regard to dual ownership, which might be a good thing during this difficult period for clubs.

    'We can move fast for the right opportunity in the Scottish league and we are open to creative deals.'

    'We would look to bring the same methods we employ with our other clubs such as Barnsley - which is a young team, data-led, balancing a budget sensibly. We would look to run a club as a proper business.

    'To that end we have told the SFA and the league to feel free to get the word out that we are open to conversations with Scottish clubs.'

    'We spent a lot of time on Partick Thistle and it was disappointing it didn't come off,' Conway admits.

    'I was in Glasgow four times and I had a vision for the club.

    'Unfortunately since then their backer has passed away and the club has passed to fan ownership.

    'The issue then was that a lack of SFA flexibility with regard to dual ownership and then there was a side issue with the owners trying to sell real estate around the stadium that we really weren't interested in.

    'But we are already in England and think we can make a Scottish club younger, more competitive and self sustaining. If the right opportunity comes up we would be happy to do so.'

    'Unfortunately since then their backer has passed away and the club has passed to fan ownership.

    'The issue then was that a lack of SFA flexibility with regard to dual ownership and then there was a side issue with the owners trying to sell real estate around the stadium that we really weren't interested in.

    'But we are already in England and think we can make a Scottish club younger, more competitive and self sustaining. If the right opportunity comes up we would be happy to do so.'

    Our name appeared in the follow up story that ran yesterday in the Mail with Budge confirming there had been an approach to Hearts that had been kb'd and the article saying that we were the other club they'd "made contact" with and were "poised to reject" an approach to sit down with them. The BBC article saying we'd also told them to f**k off ran far later in the day.

    Tbf if their model is "we can make a Scottish club younger, more competitive and self sustaining." then I can see why they'd like the look of us as an option to add to their portfolio but equally we're already doing that without their involvement - so other than financial backing I'm not sure what the incentive would be for us to hand over profits to owners rather than reinvesting in the club.

    Fwiw - here's Chien Lee's Wiki which gives a fairly detailed list of the number of clubs he/his investment company have tried to acquire - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chien_Lee


  4. 2 hours ago, btb said:

    It's always been May 31 for us.

    Same with us.

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    Most of our OOC first team players seem to have their contracts up in June according to the official site (though it's not clear what date):

    Gillespie, Tait, HartleyDunne, Livingstone (on loan at Clyde), Maguire, Long

    Aside from loanees the only ones whose permanent deals are up in May are:

    Ferguson (on loan at Linfield), Watt, Manzinga, Ilic


  5. 3 hours ago, Swello said:

    Joking aside, if the club or SPFL had a service where I could watch 90 min replays of old motherwell games for a reasonable price, I'd be all over it...

    On the monetising side the club do actually have a subscription service with (sporadic) full match replays going back to last season (the first one is the 3-1 win vs Dundee from last season). There are quite a few recent games that were almost certainly streamed live but don't seem to have been uploaded. https://tv.motherwellfc.co.uk/

    In terms of actual old Motherwell games the sort of content that we'd all love to see  (eg: the full match versions of the sort of highlights you find in a YouTube trawl) I suppose there would be rights issues in terms of content and what not and clearly the further back we go the less likely the full match footage exists but an archive of that sort of stuff would be worth chucking £5.99 a month at tbh.

    Also, @well fan for life - thank you. I hadn't seen that YouTube account either.


  6. 39 minutes ago, Swello said:

    So this puts him in the same place as he was last year - so a good end of the season, start to next and offski in August I assume? 

    I'm not sure on the logic from DT's point of view unless there is a reasonable release clause in there....

    Also - fantastic work from the club to get that done.

    Did you draft the press release? 😄

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    "“I’ve missed most of this season, so this puts us back to pretty much where we were at this stage last year in terms of my deal, giving the club a little more protection as I was coming into the last year of my contract."

    Link

     


  7. 25 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said:

    I don't really pay much attention to the compo/tribunal stuff because, in general, it really fucking bores me. Is it literally just a case of putting the numbers into a formula and applying it, or is there room for leeway and appeals? I.e, if Turnbull leaves on a free next summer could we point to teams valuing him at £3m last summer or winning YPotY as examples of his worth or would we still only be due roughly the same as Hastie/Cadden etc?

    There's a clause in the SPFL rules (page 58) that references criteria for consideration (in particular F22.6 "substantiated interest shown by other clubs in acquiring the services of the player") but that seems to be specifically related to a tribunal.

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  8. For all it's easy to be snarky about the Turnbull documentary that's it the 4th most popular video ever on the MFC YouTube channel in the space of a week - so it's done #numbers cross platform (and YouTube seems to be a socials channel we have a bit of difficulty with) and tbh it's a very well put together documentary.

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    In terms of the Reserves stuff though - we have a camera placed in the stand at the games anyway (certainly the ones I've been at) which is presumably for analysis. There's someone with a go-pro/handheld and that seems to be what we've been using for the social posts this season, so presumably the footage is there - it's simply a choice not to edit together and post a more traditional highlights package.

    This is the last Reserves game that was posted on YouTube and it has 1.4k views (as does the Reserves highlights vs Aberdeen) - which is actually more than the player reactions, story of the match and manager pre & post match from the same week.

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    I get that we use analytics to track engagement and the Twitter stuff makes sense as it has shifted to being an algorithm based platform but ultimately - niche as it may be -sometimes folk would just be happy to get a look at the Dev games in a fairly standard format that gives you a bit of context.


  9. 2 hours ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said:

    I've always thought that he's not the type of player who would make us a lot of money, but he will still be 22 when his contact expires next summer so if he were to leave on a bosman, at least we would still get compensation (provided he didn't join Columbus Crew via a loan at Oxford).

    By all accounts, he's first in and last out every day at Fir Park, is super fit and a dedicated pro. Right back to when he was in the team as a teenager, it always impressed me how he wasn't at all fazed by going toe-to-toe with the likes of Scott Brown. I think his game is centre far more on attitude and physical condition, than it is on technique. 

    I said this last week before the game to my mates (right before he scored twice and got a MOTM performance of course) that I thought being a really good Motherwell player was his level and that if he does go next summer, he's the type of player I could see going down to League One and if he doesn't become an eventual templated returning Motherwell player, I could see him ending up back up the road at a team like Hibs or Aberdeen.

    This might seem harsh, I do love him and he's exactly the type of player fans like to see, would run through a brick wall for the team etc, but my gut instinct is that he maybe just lacks a little finesse to play at a much higher level than this.

    I've mentioned this before but Burrows did a pod with with Scottish FA Marketing Podcast a while back that's really good - one his points was that we look to develop a player brand and cited Campbell as an example (along with referencing the Gboly 'Brand Personality Strategy Document').

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    "It was very important for us to try and establish every player with a brand, if you like, some are more obvious than others....A really good example of that would be Allan Campbell.

    The vision we had for Allan was this hard working, industrial, really serious side to his game. When anyone talks about him it's always about "he's in the gym first, he's out last". So from that point of view we wanted to we framed Allan and we always frame Allan with the message publicly is that Allan's never involved in anything that's jovial, Allan's never involved in anything we do that's "fun" or kicking about as it doesn't really fit to Allan's narrative. Allan's all about hard work, endeavour and effort. So if you ever look at anything with Motherwell and search over the last 6 or 7 months anything that you read or see; pictures, videos anything with Allan will be hard work orientated."

    The point re: Campbell is that the key qualities they've tried to frame and reinforce are exactly as you say attitude and physical condition. How you've described his is exactly how the club have presented him publicly and also what you see on the park every week. Which I suppose isn't as sexy as Turnbull or Gboly or even Scott.

    Obviously there needs to be buy in from the player if we're actively pushing him front and centre (like making a 40 min documentary about his rehab from injury or lobbying for a centre half to get a Scotland call up for example) but I get the feeling that Campbell's someone we've pushed but he's kind of flown under the radar because his "narrative" isn't quite as eye-catching.

    I mean, we've had a ton of handwringing about Turnbull over the past few days but not a peep about Campbell - they both have exactly the same length  of time remaining on their contracts.

    Maybe if we'd gone all in on the Lanarkshire Kante brand it may have had more of a hook.

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