Jambomo

I almost feel sorry for McLeish, players hanging him out to dry here.

Dortmund v Bayern is a good game. Ruined only by the abysmal commentary on BT of Paul Dempsey and Nigel Spackman.

In fairness Warnock has been playing Paterson as a striker at Cardiff for a few weeks now and I think he was Cardiff top scorer last season from midfield, so its not the daft suggestion it sounds.

One thing that has always puzzled me about vegetarians is that they eat eggs. Eggs are pretty clearly animal matter so how can they be part of a Vegetarian diet?

I don’t know why he doesn’t start more. He’s not a brilliant player but he’s very effective.

If villages count - Stuart Dallas at Leeds

Brian Irvine

According to Owen and McManaman last night, its something to do with playing opponents away from home who have running tracks around the pitch. Can't beat them apparently. I'm sure they weren't making up complete shite to detract from Liverpool losing or anything like that.

Why do commentators use the fucking stupid “Why would he go down there” line? Of course they go down in the box because they are all fucking cheats.

[emoji23] The idea of taking a cauliflower to a football match.

Yeah, to be fair when you put it that way, its pretty obvious

I don’t think it is a midweek thing, one of the points is to leave their old leagues and associations, so I think it’s a total move away from what we have a present. Apparently no relegation for 20 years either, don’t know what they’d be playing for at the bottom of that league. It all seems to be a pretty weird idea all in.

That’s what I was thinking as well, not sure how they can say that he wasn’t active, he was going towards the ball as well and as they pointed out, caused Mustafi to look across to him.

There is also the position A) It is unacceptable for someone at a football match to throw a coin. And B) It is unwise for a football club manager to stand in front of a crowd of opposition fans and gesture to them, as this may lead to trouble. Neither of those positions are justifying the other, they exist equally in separate arguments but here they can both apply. I remember Mixu gesturing at Dundee fans (was it Dundee?) a few years back. It wasn’t any less stupid that he did it, it could equally have caused loads of trouble. The only difference was that on that occasion, the Dundee fans did not react badly to the situation.

People try to see things as completely black & white when really most things aren't. The person/people who chucked the coin at Lennon and who punched Zlamal, will hopefully be identified and get done by their clubs. There is no excuse for chucking things or attacking people and I hope they get done, if Hearts get done too then we will just have to accept it. That said, there is no point in pretending that in life our actions don't have consequences, whatever we do generates a reaction, both in good ways and bad ways. Lennon was behaving like an arse, yeah he'd probably been getting it tight all game from fans but he doesn't have more right to react/not react than the fans. That's not to excuse the fans because it doesn't, but we shouldn't ignore Lennon's conduct either.