L. Brilliant

Kind of what I'm getting at, it might be easier for those people to stay very quiet - so any person or group with a platform who can challenge them to align with, or disown, Sim's position should really do so. I'm sure we'd all want to know what the new chairman's position is.

There are a vocal minority of bitter, angry wee guys who think what they want is a club that doesn't care who it upsets or excludes. Same guys will be raging that all the folk who don't think that club is for them are no longer buying tickets, strips, or bringing their kids. Yes there's a big sponsor for next season. Can you look any further than that? It's going to be severely diminishing returns if Sim's stance is allowed to define us as that wee angry guy club.

If the remaining people in the club with influence have its interests at heart, they need to demonstrate it by telling him what harm he is doing and that he needs to back away and keep his mouth shut. I'd like to see the Trust take the lead and push the board into this as far as possible.

Who, at the football club now, can reliably make a good appointment if we change manager? On what basis?

(Eureka is magic)

It think it was the Scottish cup quarter final game against them when we lost 4-1 in 94-95 season Yeah and it emerged the guy came from Glenboig or Glenbogle or something, which as it turns out when you locate it on a map is, approximately, Airdrie

Can't really win though. If Sim pays for this or that, then if A) it's public, then we encourage big-man-dependency which is the ruin of any number of clubs, but if B) it's not announced, then those more cautiously minded will make negative assumptions about the club's liabilities. While we're so far from sustainability we are going to need 'investment' ie gifts on a scale that itself discourages the fanbase from taking responsibility for the eventual sustainability.

It was quite bad but marginally better than not doing it at all. Wouldn't rush to re watch unlike the peak period (maybe about series 3-8?)

Ignore list getting pretty crowded off this whole episode

See if you read that Courier article again, it becomes more logical that no one has said anything yet. It's inevitable that negative assumptions fill that void - so far by me as much as anyone and i am definitely winding that back somewhat - and this is just another consequence of the original mistake. The televised game is likely to be awkward but I don't think there's any way around that now.

Too much corroboration is starting to emerge of the remaining board's lack of contrition and lack of concern about who they've alienated. Something carefully presented could still persuade the majority of people who are looking for justification to get back to normal but it's going to take something very good to seem sincere after the time that's passed. At this point I don't think I can be convinced they aren't just laughing up their sleeves.

Football is only part of what a football club is, but that's less apparent to people who aren't interested in it most of the time. It might seem like 'football itself is going through a moral dilemma' or whatever, but that's only a byproduct. What's really happening is Raith Rovers deciding what kind of football club it wants to be. I don't think there will be any kind of change in what kind of person clubs will sign as players. The wider public hysteria logically always implies 'sponsors and customers should not stand for this - they should withhold their money' etc. This only has so much effect if you're a lower league, smaller budget club. I'm sure Goodwillies, Thomsons etc will always get another gig as long as they'll go to a low enough level for their ability to outweigh the outrage and its financial implications. Rovers were just the first club in a while daft enough to poke this with a stick and see. If DGW was an even better player or even 5 years younger who knows what would be playing out now.

This is the calibre of the folk we handed 150k+ in 2020 for absolutely no influence in return. Never, ever again

It's a good kind of speculation anyway, because continuing silence only leaves us to assume that this is the sentiment amongst them - better that it's very clear to them that this is what they're saying by saying nothing. For a good few hundred fans, they'll be proved right - changing habits will be too hard. But not everybody.

Grim

I know folk all want to see everything settled and all the battle lines drawn or whatever, especially those on the outside just looking for a bit of entertainment or curiosity. However there was about 500 missing from a normal crowd - obviously reserving judgment especially about the manager's status until more is known about his views a) at the time and b) since there's been a heavy prompt to revise that view and (Jesus h, please) have arrived at a better understanding. Yes, the guy was statue material until very recently and it will be painful to have to accept he should go when the dust settles, if that turns out to be the case. Silence from him is only leaving us to assume the worst and he probably has til about Monday tea time to avoid that.

Anyone who's waiting for the Trust to do something needs to join it for a start. Waiting for someone else to do something and just provide a club in your image is how every club ends up in bother. The Big Man comes along and, surprise surprise, they do something crap whether it's financial, moral, football-illiterate or cultural. It's a few quid to have your say and what other route to collective ownership would there ever be?

On a night like tonight, counting on a 'focal point' up front means reliably hitting one guy in a randomising wind. We can moan about a back 5 but dick practically collided with their post a number of times and tumilty was a major presence in the opposing half and beat their last man to the ball to run into the box and put us ahead. We're all rationalising frustrations bit I wouldn't be turning the playing style upside down based on what we saw in brutal conditions

This one to a ridiculous degree. Also a pal hearing We Want Fun (Andrew wk) for the first time said 'is this the Party Hard Christmas Mix' so that

I thought in his post match JmcG came over like he was protecting Wright a bit, Killie weren't very good but they were probably still a bit a unlucky too and as a guy who's been sacked himself he maybe had a whiff of Wright getting the boot after the result. No doubt after seeing the pen decision back and knowing what Wright's patter's been like post-match he's maybe felt like dialling that back a wee bit after all. I hadn't been in a long while and I'd forgotten what a buzz it is after a result like that, with a proper decent group and a united front like we have just now. Wanted to go back again today. Defending our box that much and keeping that much possession in the back third there's always going to be a lapse eventually - nothing costly today and it's a great one to win against rivals at the top. We'll probably lose a game or that we're more dominant in than we were here, and the possession at the back will cost a goal or two, but I wouldn't change it. Just got to recognise when QOS or whoever inevitably mug us that we've had days like this as well, and on balance thing are good. Rarely seen a player happier than Tumilty when Whigfield came on

We're into 13/20 on bet365 - wtf is going on there? Away to a team we've not beat in 20 year with one or two rested and no sub gk

Am I right in thinking it was believed Lang could cover left back? If Dick is out, as it were, on Saturday then we might find out. I don't necessarily want to know if he is, because if I know then the opposition knows too...