palmy_cammy

I don’t think the first team training away from Dumfries is a factor in the terrible home form for the reasons stated. Most teams train at an alternative training ground rather than their home stadium anyway. The only real difference being Queens don’t own their training ground and it is outside their home town. That being said, fans lap up performative actions and a “rallying call” from the manager saying he was determined to fix the appalling home form and had organised extra sessions at Palmerston to remedy it would likely be well received even if it had no basis on fact. Sadly Bartley seems to have no interest in appeasing people, and instead prefers to antagonise and alienate. He also probably thinks there is nothing wrong with the home form anyway. Moving forward I think moving training back to Dumfries would be a quick win for the new Board at trying to repair the disconnect between fans and club. Unless I’m missing anything obvious, the main argument for training in the central belt was to attract a better standard of player. A quick glance at the squads from the past few years would show a glaring weakness in that argument. I thought the longer term vision when KGV was acquired was to turn it onto a doonhame version of La Masia?

Typical Queens vs Falkirk thread with everyone posting a load of crop.

How I imagine the board meetings unfold at Palmerston. Absolutely astounding and contemptible that they are sitting on their hands and doing nothing about the current state the club is in. Very clear they stopped giving a shit a long time ago. The fans deserve so much better.

That announcement is as good as a lottery win for Queens fans, don’t get greedy.

An excellent clean sheet.

What about “Cowp Nou” considering the state of the place?

Number 9 might be worth a look, he stuck the penalty away well.

Or a third option, which is that they have no plan at all.

I’d settle for 1-0 Alloa. Take the point and move on.

Like everyone else I was delighted yesterday proved to be such a success, with Dobbie getting the turnout he deserved from both players and fans alike. As others have said the football at these type of affairs tends to be of little importance, but I think the choice of opposition meant there was interest in both sides for the supporters which may not have been the case if the opponents had been for example a "Rangers XI". Based on the reaction in the ground Scott Brown was obviously the star attraction in the away side, and judging by Dobbie's interview was a key player in getting other people involved, but it was also great to see 58 year old Colin Hendry strutting his stuff and putting many of the younger players to shame with his fitness! While it was nice to see so many ex-Queens players again, it only served as a reminder of how far the club has fallen, and how lacking in character and leadership it has been for quite some time. Guys like Chris Higgins, who haven't even been away from the club all that long, feel like a different breed to the recent crop of charlatans. Fair play to Alan Martin for playing, he wasn't exactly well loved during his spell with the club but got a good reception from the Portland Drive end. I actually thought he looked in better physical condition than at any point during his playing career with Queens. He also contributed to the occasion and gave the crowd some rare reasons to get excited by pulling off a couple of great saves, and skinning two of the Scotland team. I wasn't going to comment on the stadium announcer as it was a light-hearted testimonial match and not that important in any sort of real life context. But as others have brought it up I don't feel as petty in doing so. It is just another thing to add to the ever increasing list of things that show the club up as utterly tinpot. A professional football club in name only.

Yeah I don't think it's likely to happen for the reasons you give. It would be a massive dent to Bartley's considerable ego so more likely to cause more issues than it would resolve. It was just a left-field suggestion that would avoid the club having to fork out on a costly sacking, and perhaps help salvage Bartley's reputation and career, which is now in the gutter. Someone earlier tried to equate football management to a normal workplace, which is probably folly, but in most jobs if someone is struggling with their workload the answer is to offer assistance not immediately dispose of the person.

Obviously longer term the club needs cleared out and rebuilt from top to bottom, but would a short-term fix be to appoint a “wise old head” to assist Bartley, fill in the obvious gaps in his skillset, and mend the rifts in the camp? Of course the clear weakness in this plan is a list of obvious candidates, and the fact the damage is possibly already done now. Maybe this was an idea for a month or so back. It’s a shame that for probably the first time in their tenure the board have made an ambitious appointment, that actually pointed to a bit of forward thinking and longer-term planning, and it’s proven to be a disaster. Lots of people still seem to think Bartley has something about him. If the situation could be saved it would be better for everyone, than going back to the endless, depressing cycle of ripping it up and starting again every year.