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Just in case it hasn't been posted before.
All very well, but unless Cowdensash's vote counts for 15 they're not exactly getting early evidence that 50% will actually vote for it, are they?
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The new Rangers are not yet an affiliated football club. That doesn't stop them employing people as footballers. You don't have to be a football club to employ people as footballers. RBS could give Steven Naismith a contract as a footballer tomorrow if they wanted.
Surely they can't register him as a footballer, though?
You haven't seen the size of big Lachlan's hands though. Don't jump to conclusions without the facts.
Not to mention that a "handful of emails" could very well mean "as many as will fit on an iPhone".
Has Elvis had a wee change of heart...
Pressley has been entirely consistent throughout. He's perfectly happy to have the newco in the second tier if it gets him his personal laundry list of reforms. The only question is whether Operation Blackmail ticks enough boxes.
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STV suggests that this was something cooked up by Doncaster, Regan and Longmuir and simply dished out to the clubs today. No indication they were involved. This looks like a last-ditch offer. The only worrying thing here is the mention of Petrie, who is the last person who should be backing down.
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So what happens then? Do the likes of Spartans or Cove Rangers join the league, and if so, where does that leave Sevco5088? Taking a sabbatical year?
As Craigkillie has pointed out, in the event of an invitation being opened *someone* has to be voted in. Right now the biggest problem facing Those-That-Would-Be-Rangers is that Green may very well simply have no interest in trying, which means they may not have a ground. One is going to have a hard time convincing even the average Mirror Group reader that one is the rightful heir to The Biggest Trophy Haul of Them All if one does not actually play at Ibrox. But you can't imagine the SFL allowing the Third to go a team short.
Spartans' position, so far as I know, is that they won't apply for an opening if "Rangers" do. But if this gets any worse, there may well be no "Rangers" applying at all. Should that happen, I dare say that P&B members would be well advised to rapidly invest in Ben & Jerry's, or failing that Iceland and Farmfoods.
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If Brown get's his hands on the keys, who's the next "legend" to turn up and take over claiming to be the messiah?
It surely has to be Gascoigne. Nothing says "the limit of absurdity has been reached" these days like the appearance of Gascoigne.
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Sorry to see you getting red dots though for expressing a genuinely held view.
It's relatively hard for anyone who doesn't post with his trousers around his ankles to get a negative karma around here. Folk with Rangers as their clubs aren't getting it especially hard on here. You're being fished.
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Amorous, Hough
Autocorrect, how we love thee.
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I still don't think Green's an asset stripper. It would take a man with some balls to strip away the assets of a club with a fanbase that has a core of bigotry, violence and hated. He'd be a dead man walking.
what
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We have had the Arab spring around some countries, now Scotland it seems is having its own Arab spring with revolution within the Scottish game?
would be cool, especially when the dark side are destroyed, peace and balance will come to our little islandNot to put a dampener on things, but I'd be pretty cautious throwing around "Arab Spring" when it comes to all this. Libya, Egypt and Syria are not exactly peaceful and balanced right now, unless you're David Cameron. Should Rangers actually experience the true death (and there are certainly more overtones of the fall of Berlin today) everyone needs to rapidly get over the backslapping and get ready for a bumpy ride for quite some time.
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the most sensible solution for the dundee/dunfermline problem would be (Cosgroves idea) to have them play a 2 legged playoff
The most sensible solution would be to promote Dundee. What's the fucking point of bleating on about sporting integrity for two months and then not having a team in the SPL relegated (again)? Dunfermline are, by the rules of the organisations in question, already an SFL side. It's done. If the Dee are going up only to get rogered then so be it; they'd at least hopefully turn a profit given that they'd budgeted for the First.
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One thing that comes across from the RTC blog is the seemingly large number of literate, intelligent Celtic fans. Then you look at that forum and wonder where is the blue equivalent.
Local and national government, the police force, major industry. or so it goes.
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That headline really pisses me off. "Demoted"? Demoted from where, exactly?
I know it's a small thing, but it really gets on my tits.
To be fair, even if it isn't strictly accurate it's the only concise way to make the point. "forced to reapply from scratch" would be edited out of even a broadsheet headline.
Obviously it remains the Internet's duty to ensure that the actual state of affairs (reapplying from nothing, as opposed to the oldco merely being moved around) continues to be pointed out.
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Would it not be easier for MJ to say that, all it would cost Killie, would be to reduce his squad size by 4 players & that he'd be voting No.
You're forgetting that it is the stated policy of Kilmarnock FC to allocate 3/4 of Rugby Park to Rangers and Celtic these days. What with those seats never being otherwise filled, that's quite a significant additional gain, even ignoring that Sky inevitably shows these guaranteed 4+goal whitewashes stunners.
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Romanov in his statement is 100% correct and this needed to be said. It is so true to each word we are controlled now by SKY.
At the same time, it's odd that Murdock's lot have been somewhat standoffish compared to the Mirror Group and the vast majority of those in-crowders emplyed by the BBC. But a significant factor in Murdock's success, as with any populist, is knowing which way the wind is blowing. One little-discussed effect of all the current mayhem is that it may result in the non-Murdock hacks getting kicked out of what has for decades been an entrenched position of power. Imagine what will happen if the league fails to implode (and indeed flourishes) but the Record remains steadfastly behind the old powers.
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According to reports
Reports in the Daily Record. I got more insight from my four-month-old niece this morning.
there could be quick, wholesale changes made to the league(s) structures to find a way of parachuting Rangers newco into the First Division. That's what we need, a quickly, unseemly cobbled together mess of a structure to save a cheating club because the footballing authorities don't have the guts or gumption to deal with their transgressions,
The one good thing about the staggering level of incompetence in the upper echelons of the sport's administrative bodies is that there isn't the remotest possibility of them being able to carry out such a restructuring in time. They can't even produce their own fixture lists ffs, and I dare say that whoever they outsource that to isn't going to meekly comply with demands to get the new ones out in ten days at the end of July.
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That's an absolutely fucking terrible scenario. Literally everyone loses. The comparatively well-run SFL loses all its best teams; the TV deal is further diluted, especially two sessions down the line when the permanent top two is restored; the phoenix club gets to appropriate titles and history it didn't earn; and as "punishment", it spends a year playing exhibitions every week to packed crowds (likely under an independent TV deal) before stomping through a diddy SPL 2. Absolute horror show.
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Don't you think, though, that this 'ma baw ma game' attitude is shite?
I'm strongly opposed to a general attitude that private entities should be able to extricate themselves from the jurisdiction of the state on their say-so. On the other hand, this isn't actually possible, and football recognises that by typically taking a "discourage, warn, move" approach to compliance. They have to: these entities exist at the whim of the state in the end. There seem to be very few cases of parties suffering *unduly* for taking matters to the courts.
As The Hibs fan said earlier, "the SFA rules ostensibly say you can't appeal the tribunal itself, and thus both CAS + CoS were debarred... which in cases where it's SFA itself imposing a punishment means it's not possible to get a hearing off a 3rd party. That, in turn, isn't really very just."
My understanding was that the tribunal was ostensibly independent of the SFA. Furthermore, I haven't seen any indication that appealing to CAS is off-limits. That's precisely what it's there for.
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The CoS's role was to help The SFA's panel interpret its own rules since it was incapable of doing so itself.
That was the angle Paul McBride came from over Lennon's two dugout bans. The difference was that it was pursued through the SFA's own channels.
For sane people a civil court is a good thing. It means that there is some sort of accountability and pressure on the SFA to adhere to its own processes.
The aforementioned dugout ban appeal seemed to suggest that the SFA could be made accountable without having to resort to the courts.
Any idea that 'It's a private club so we can do what we like' just flies in the face of common justice.
Rangers entered that private club in full knowledge that their contract forbade them from pursuing internal matters of compliance through the courts. It's not like they just ticked a license box on a website to get in. That said, there is no fixed penalty for pursuing matters outside of court, and that is presumably precisely because it is occasionally the right thing to do. On this occasion it was outright counterproductive given the strong indication from the tribunal that the transfer ban was a novel attempt to come up with a severe punishment that fell short of yanking Rangers' membership entirely.
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Local comapnies should have recourse to local courts in such situtations. I don't see why this is unreasonable.
Because sport by necessity operates on a set of rules above and beyond that of common law, enforced by contract. This is why, for instance, players don't get to sue referees for loss of earnings if they get sent off.
Look, I don't think anyone disagrees that the sports authorities occasionally overstep the line between "we must regulate this in order for the sport to work" and "we are above the rule of sovereign nations". Forcing the Brazilian government to sell beer in stadia so as to not piss off beer sponsors, for instance. And there are obviously specific cases where the law has to intervene in matters that the footballing authorities would rather deal with themselves (for instance, human rights issues regarding players: Bosman has fucked shit up for club football, especially smaller teams, in a big way, but it simply had to be done). But in terms of how the competition itself is actually run, it isn't at all difficult to understand why allowing local courts to make decisions which would override those laid down in the contracts that clubs sign would cause chaos. For all this talk of "mickey mouse courts" and whatever, Rangers broke a contract. If they were a normal business, you'd suppose that the courts would consider such a breach to be grounds for the SPL / SFA to summarily tear up their membership.
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Again as I said to Gnash - why?
Millions playing doesnt mean that they will automatically be world class.
Where are the World Class Chinese or Indian footballers?
You're an idiot.
Anyway, yeah, Mark Allen. The sooner football does this the better.
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i'm sure someone at Chelsea will set him straight
The Chelsea managed by Terry, Drogba and Lampard?
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I fucking hate Ronnie O Sullivan.
Compared to some of the fuds you get on a football pitch, at any level, O'Sullivan is like Jesus.
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Barry Hearn think he's doing an amazing job.
He's right. I'm not best pleased about the dartsification aspects (whooping idiots in Arsenal shirts)* but it makes the sport money and gets it column inches, and if I had my way everyone would still have a fag during breaks** and a whisky at the table. And there'd be terraces.
* Though, to be fair, I've a well-heeled friend who went to the darts for a few days down south recently and fucking loved it
** Although I am the world's biggest supporter of the smoking ban
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This is fucking brutal all of a sudden.
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Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!
in Celtic v Rangers, Rangers v Celtic
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To do what? It's not as if Serie A's perma-corruption has seen UEFA chuck them out of Europe. I dare say that most of UEFA would very much rather the Scottish game died entirely and with that our undue weight at the game's top table.